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3.1415926535897 
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 Topic: Good Apollo, I'm De-Loused in the Comatorium
Posted: April 22 2008 at 12:12 |
I just bought one album by each (the ones of which this poll name is formed). I haven't really digested them yet, but I think I like De-Loused better.
I'm curious, though, about which band is more highly regarded (over the course of their respective careers), since I think of them both being in the same category (Progressive Alt-Punk-Rock).  |
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 12:46 |
Kind of very hard to compare both bands, really. A song like The Willing Well is nothing like a song like
Cassandra Geminni.
For my vote I simply focused on who I listen to more, even though I like both bands a lot. I voted for C&C because - although Mars Volta is much more highly regarded - I'm more of a guy for rock melodies rather than post-punk dissonance. However, now that I've said that I will surely be carried away by a torch wielding crowd.  My money is on Mars Volta to win this poll, but I think you should give C&C's new album a spin (unless that's the one you have... there are 2 Good Apollos, you know). If you like something more straightforward then C&C is for you, if you like it complex and weird then MV are much better.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 13:05 |
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I love both band. Each was really important in the formation of my musical taste.
That being said, I think that the Mars Volta are better because Coheed's discography is way too spotty (several clunkers on each disc) while the Mars Volta have been always consistent and progressive and just amazing.
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3.1415926535897
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 13:20 |
 King By-Tor wrote:
My money is on Mars Volta to win this poll, but I think you should give C&C's new album a spin (unless
that's the one you have... there are 2 Good Apollos, you know). If you like something more straightforward
then C&C is for you, if you like it complex and weird then MV are much better.
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Ah. I have the first part, with "Welcome Home". Didn't notice the second part on the discography 
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 13:29 |
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I really like The Mars Volta but I have only heard the PA samples of Coheed & Cambria.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 13:38 |
3.1415926535897 wrote:
Ah. I have the first part, with "Welcome Home". Didn't notice the second part on the discography |
If you like that one then I heartily recommend the second part. Personally I didn't care for Part 1 too much... Good songs, yes, but a bit slow at points. I think that No World For Tomorrow is far superior. 
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 13:39 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
I love both band. Each was really important in the formation of my musical taste.
That being said, I think that the Mars Volta are better because Coheed's discography is way too spotty (several clunkers on each disc) while the Mars Volta have been always consistent and progressive and just amazing.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 14:40 |
while I think Coheed has a couple of filler songs per each album...but TMV isn't immaculate either. Both bands are great. I think they'reboth moving away from the sound that made them famous (TMV with Bedlam and C&C with No world for tomorrow) but still good arraingements on both parts.
Best by each:
TMV - Frances the mute (De-Loused is close...)
C&C - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth (Good Apollo part 1 is better instrumentally, but ehh............)
Edited by DJPuffyLemon - April 22 2008 at 14:42
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 15:17 |
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Mars Volta easily. They are really keen on moving forward and exploring new territory.
Coheed is nothing new really.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 15:18 |
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oh please, coheed suck balls, let's be serious now! TMV are out of this world though.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 15:20 |
kibble_alex wrote:
oh please, coheed suck balls, let's be serious now! TMV are out of this world though.
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I was waiting for this I don't agree with you but still
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 15:30 |
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Coheed & Cambria have one album that I like, whereas The Mars Volta have three.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 15:50 |
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to be honest, Coheed and Cambria. I LOVE Deloused in the Comatorium but i cannot get into the next 3 of their releases.
amputechture has its moments as does frances the mute, but i never find myself wanting to listen to them apart from Deloused.
Coheed on the Other hand has 1 CD close to the level of Deloused (In Keeping Secrets . . . ) and one great CD (Good Apollo . . . ) and i just enjoy listening to them much more than TMV.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 16:39 |
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The Mars Volta!, no competition
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 18:25 |
I love both, but The Mars Volta is leagues beyond Coheed. I feel like Coheed are holding themselves back to be more mainstream.
And unlike most here, I feel like their newest album was a step back, or a sidestep. Either way, I don't think they progressed at all, and that last track was so disjointed and rushed. What a disappointing ending to the saga! I grew to like the album quite a bit, but overall it feels like they rushed to get it out (which may be true because they hit several bumps between Good Apollo I and II). Mother Superior could have been a bit more epic and less repetitive, I already said what I thought about the very end, the beginning of that "suite" was completely undeveloped, "Feathers" was a nice poppy song and then they went into that dark bridge with a guitar solo and what not which could have flowed into a completely new passages, but they abruptly moved to another chorus (with poor flow I might add), and generally speaking they fall back to the verse-chrous-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus structure too much.
I am really excited to hear the new material with Chris on drums, whenever that may be.
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 19:40 |
3.1415926535897 wrote:
I'm curious, though, about which band is more highly regarded (over the course of their respective careers)
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...by the prog community? The Mars Volta
...by me? The Mars Volta
....better musicians, more varied songwriting, more complex... but if you like Coheed & Cambria, I think you'll also like THREE very much so
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 23:54 |
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I just enjoy COHEED more.
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Posted: April 23 2008 at 00:01 |
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Posted: April 23 2008 at 00:31 |
^I would like to hear your guys' thoughts on the new album vs. the old one. You, King By-Tor, specifically suggested the new one over the others, but I would definitely suggest it after at least one other one for the reasons I mentioned. Everyone I know agrees with me about it, but most of the archives' people like the new one the most it seems.
Also, do you really consider The Willing Well one song? All of their suites are mainly grouped together so the lyrics can focus on a subplot. The music between each track doesn't flow and none of the songs bear any themes that they share to give them the feeling of a coherent whole. They also play the songs seperately live.
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Posted: April 23 2008 at 01:07 |
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For some reason the new album just sits with me better, I think it's because they decided to go for a generally
more flowing direction (for some reason some of the tracks on the first album just didn't feel right). As much as I
like The Suffering i think a track like The Running Free is better. This is all just my own tastes of course. The
new album gets me to tap my toe more than the old one did. I also appreciate the fact that there are less "slow"
moments on the new one, because as much as I like slow songs C&C are definitely a band better played
bombastically like in a song like Justice In Murder.
I'll also take the songs that comprise The End Complete over The Willing Well any day. Somehow they're
just more memorable. I don't know how in that sense, but I'll get back to you when I figure that out.
As a prog head I definitely like to think of the songs as one big song, but with nothing (music wise) to tie
them together I do generally accept that they are separate tracks. Here's hoping for a "sider" from the boys
one day!
Edited by King By-Tor - April 23 2008 at 01:08
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