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Tuzvihar 
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 Posted: November 25 2007 at 13:40 |
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13 European teams are going to play in South Africa. That means that only four best teams from second places in their groups will qualify. Edited by Tuzvihar - November 25 2007 at 13:41 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: November 25 2007 at 13:42 |
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Il' go with:
1. Sweden, Hungary
2. Greece, Israel
3. Czech, Poland
4. Germany, Russia
5. Spain, Belgium
6. Croatia, England
7. France, Romania
8. Italy, Ireland
9. Holland, Norway
18 teams but only 13 will qualify... what a pity that Europe cannot match Africa standards, no?
Yes, Africa, a continent with a "long football history: full of champions, great players of the past, huge tradition, etc, etc", will have 6 teams (host plus 5) to do the happiness of FIFA mafiosos, European impresarios, Asian agents and all worldwide slave-owners...
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Tony R
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 13:48 |
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Thanks Tuzi, I missed the draw so didnt realise this. That changes things rather: Portugal Greece Czech Germany Spain England France Italy Holland Poland Romania Ukraine Turkey |
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:12 |
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at least it's closer to Russia (considered a European country) than Israel is to any other European country...  |
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:20 |
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the draw is quite 'easy' for Greece... we need to prove this on the pitch
from the other groups I think that England will have a tough q.round with Croatia and Ukraine Holland and Portugal also are in quite 'tricky' groups from the rest, I don't see any big problem for the 'big' ones to take the first place Romania, Russia and Poland have a good chance to qualify, even from the 2nd place |
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:21 |
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Sad news... 8 people killed when the stands of a huge stadium in the city of Salvador, Brazil crumbled; many people are wounded, several with gravity.
It happened half an hour ago and the news didn't reach already the webnews in English.
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andu
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:23 |
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We got the toughest group!  |
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 08:21 |
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Jared
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 08:33 |
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^^^ That's very sad news indeed, Guigo... hopefully the authorities will look into the reasons behind this tragedy, and put in place thorough safety checks and minimum standards in all its large stadia, in a similar way to the English after Hillsborough in 1989....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 08:58 |
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^^^^^ very sad indeed. I guess this happened due to the stadium's age...
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sircosick
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 17:52 |
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I was awaken by that terrible notice while taking a nap this afternoon. Indeed horrible
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The best you can is good enough...
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 18:00 |
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I really hate to see people dying or being injured when amusing or in a intended joyful moment...
Salvador (third Brazilian city: 3 million inhabitants) is due to receive a new stadium for 2014 WC. Until there we'll have to mourn the dead ones and heal those injured - bit I still have hopes that the responsibles be charged for this sad event.
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Norbert
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 08:22 |
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[QUOTE=Atkingani]Il' go with:
1. Sweden, Hungary
Thanks for your support, but this seems quite unrealistic to me.
I think we can challenge Denmark at best, but Sweden and Portugal are almost out of reach.
Our team can play well only friendlies(most cases) like against Italy this summer.
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Passionist
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 08:41 |
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I believe, that group 4 will send forward Germany and Finland. I have faith in us, especially after the EMs. We'll beat Russia!
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:40 |
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Not a good day for English teams:
after first half... |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Logos
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 16:08 |
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Both are through.
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sircosick
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 16:10 |
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^^ Not that fast......
Manchester U. has just scored!!!!  |
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The best you can is good enough...
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 16:41 |
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Manchester eventually won the game. Arsenal lost (1:3), so did Rangers (2:3).
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski |
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 16:43 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski |
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 17:58 |
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^ Sevilla was much better through the whole match
of course Arsenal was playing with many substitutes... Man. United scored in 92' with an excellent foul from C.Ronaldo (the more I don't admire him as a character, the better player he becomes...) |
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