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Topic: The Official Football Thread
Posted By: King of Loss
Subject: The Official Football Thread
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:12
Since the World Cup is over and The Azzurri are champions, why not we start an official football thread to replace the world cup thread, because the World Cup is over!
I'll start:
Predict the champions in each major European league!
England: Chelsea FC Spain: FC Barcelona Italy: Inter Milan (With AC Milan, Juventus expelled for at least one year)
Germany: Bayern Munich France: Lyon Netherlands: Feyernoord Rotterdam (Sorry  ) Portugal: Benfica
Scotland: Hearts (Yes, a winner that's not Rangers or Celtic)
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:17
I want the Cowboys to win!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:19
Arsillus wrote:
I want the Cowboys to win!
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Good one, but not Gridiron! 
Maybe a warning to Americans.
BE WARNED, THIS IS AN ALMOST NON-AMERICAN TOPIC! 
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:23
It's called soccer, Flossy.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:29
Arsillus wrote:
I want the Cowboys to win!
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I like the Bears chances this year. 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:34
AtLossForWords wrote:
Arsillus wrote:
I want the Cowboys to win!
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I like the Bears chances this year.  |
You must live in Chicago. They say that every year. 
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 20:54
Back to "European" football (soccer for our American friends)
My predictions are:
England: Arsenal
Spain: Barcelona
Italy: AC Milan (if they are not put back in serie B, then Internazionale Milan)
Germany: Werder Bremen
France: Lyon
the Netherlands: Ajax Amsterdam
Belgium: Anderlecht
Scotland: Celtic
Portugal: Porto
Turkey: Fenerbahce
Greece: Olympiacos Piraeus
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:00
I hate the term Soccer, it's a horrible word used by people who think they sound cool.
The thread deserves a sacrifice.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:02
Arsillus wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
Arsillus wrote:
I want the Cowboys to win!
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I like the Bears chances this year.  |
You must live in Chicago. They say that every year. 
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I am from Chicago, I now live in Denver.
@James
I think this thread needs to be sacrificed.
Honestly I mean honestly, who pays attention to soccer on this forum when the World Cup is over other than Tony R? Not even Flossy will be posting here after a week!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:04
I quite agree. I also think all World Cup related threads should be closed. I would close them if I was an administrator.
By the way, that saying is a play on words of a Colosseum tune called "The Machine deserves a sacrifice".
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:08
Geck0 wrote:
I quite agree. I also think all World Cup related threads should be closed. I would close them if I was an administrator.
By the way, that saying is a play on words of a Colosseum tune called "The Machine deserves a sacrifice".
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Who knows, if everyone acts like us in this thread, maybe it will be closed. 
EDIT: I almost forgot. What is a non-admin doing making an "official" thread anyways? The insubordination is reason enough for it to be closed! 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:15
This year will be a pretty good year for the titans, they did better than any other team in the draft, I don't think they'll win they're division the Colts will probably take it, but they will edge the Jags at a playoff wild card spot.
The Texans will do better than in previous years but still have a losing record, as will the the Saints.
The Cardinals may make the playoffs if not they will be close, if they do make the playoffs they won't advance.
The Raiders will have the worst record in the NFL followed by the 49ers.
If the Colts had a better running game they would win the Superbowl next season, it'll be a team from the south, maybe the Bucs or the Panthers.
Also Denver and NY Giants will do good.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:16
video vertigo wrote:
If the Colts had a better running game they would win the Superbowl next season.
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How would they beat Man Utd.?
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:18
What about Argentina's football tournament ??
What do you think ?
For me, River Plate, of course.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:18
Indeed, no talk of American Football in here either!
I have a cunning plan!
No sport related threads for a month!
My guitar wants to kill this thread.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 22:18
Geck0 wrote:
Indeed, no talk of American Football in here either!
I have a cunning plan!
No sport related threads for a month!
My guitar wants to kill this thread.
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I have a better idea! How about Flossy joins a FIFA forum and talks soccer with people who actually know about it.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 22:25
video vertigo wrote:
This year will be a pretty good year for the titans, they did better than any other team in the draft, I don't think they'll win they're division the Colts will probably take it, but they will edge the Jags at a playoff wild card spot.
The Texans will do better than in previous years but still have a losing record, as will the the Saints.
The Cardinals may make the playoffs if not they will be close, if they do make the playoffs they won't advance.
The Raiders will have the worst record in the NFL followed by the 49ers.
If the Colts had a better running game they would win the Superbowl next season, it'll be a team from the south, maybe the Bucs or the Panthers.
Also Denver and NY Giants will do good.
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it's gotta be Steelers all the way! 
...not to mention the Hokies 
now THAT's football.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 22:33
GoldenSpiral wrote:
video vertigo wrote:
This year will be a pretty good year for the titans, they did better than any other team in the draft, I don't think they'll win they're division the Colts will probably take it, but they will edge the Jags at a playoff wild card spot.
The Texans will do better than in previous years but still have a losing record, as will the the Saints.
The Cardinals may make the playoffs if not they will be close, if they do make the playoffs they won't advance.
The Raiders will have the worst record in the NFL followed by the 49ers.
If the Colts had a better running game they would win the Superbowl next season, it'll be a team from the south, maybe the Bucs or the Panthers.
Also Denver and NY Giants will do good.
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it's gotta be Steelers all the way! 
...not to mention the Hokies 
now THAT's football.
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Steelers winning last year was the biggest fluke I'd seen in my life. If not for the critical injury in the Bengals game they would have been crushed, and then The Colts had their game won after that botched run but because of terrible play calling *sigh*.
My blind faith tells me The Eagles will come out on top as it does every year, but logically I'm feeling really confident about The Panthers.
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Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 04:08
England: Chelsea FC Spain: FC Barcelona Italy: Inter Milan
Germany: Werder bremen France: Lyon Netherlands: Ajax Amsterdam Portugal: FC Porto
Scotland: Celtic Glasgow
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 04:24
I'm not sure whether anyone has noticed but
IT'S THE CRICKET SEASON
God of mercy!! Haven't we had enough football already 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 05:20
By accident you made a cynical play of words by saying Feijenood, King Of Loss, because it's not FeijeNOOD but FeijeNOORD, the Dutch wod NOOD means HELP ... ! Does Feijenoord already need help before the start of the season? Your FeijeNOOD will make laugh the Ajax and PSV fans ..
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 06:49
Ok some rules:
1. The word "Soccer" is forbidden and users will be terminated
2. Members can only use the word "Chelsea" in the following circumstances:
a) Chelsea have lost a match
b) When describing Chelsea's players as "cheats"
3. We are not interested in knowing how C.Ronaldo aka "biggest cheat in the world" (TM) is performing at his new hideout,I mean club. Unless of course it is to announce he has an injury or to give further examples of his cheating.
4. All non-UK citizens must take it as read that the English Premiership is the best league in the world bar none.It matters not if we do not contest a single European or World Final nor that the average English striker couldnt hit a cow's arse with the proverbial banjo.
5. Any post from an Italian member that mentions the World Cup will be deleted instantly.
6. Any post from an Argentinian member called Prog-man will instantly be....
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 07:06
Soul Dreamer wrote:
Back to "European" football (soccer for our American friends)
My predictions are:
England: Arsenal
Spain: Barcelona
Italy: AC Milan (if they are not put back in serie B, then Internazionale Milan)
Germany: Werder Bremen
France: Lyon
the Netherlands: Ajax Amsterdam
Belgium: Anderlecht
Scotland: Celtic
Portugal: Porto
Turkey: Fenerbahce
Greece: Olympiacos Piraeus
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YES, someone who knows sth of Greek football...!!!!
Though, I have to say that I support King of Loss's predictions for other countries
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 08:15
More rules:
7. "Gol" is actually spelt "Goal" and is never, under any circumstances, to be followed by more than one exclamation point, or rendered in extra-large type.
8. Mark Lawrenson to write out 100 times "I am not nearly as funny as I think I am".
9. Official policy of this site is to lobby FIFA to replace penalty shootouts (and, indeed, the first 90 minutes of all England games) with a "hitting a cows arse with a banjo" competition. Seventeen new FIFA committees, with a roving commission, to be established, to standardise the size and pliablility of the arse & banjo.
PS. can anyone explain how, in the latest FIFA rankings, released today, Portugal have gone down one place, to ninth, whereas England have gone up five places to fifth???? 
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 08:48
England : Sheffield Utd
Scotland : Celtic
Italy : Inter Milan
Germany : Bayern Munich
France : Lyon
Spain : Real Madrid
And why do half of the responses in this thread have to be about American football, or complaining about another football thread, if you don't like it just shut up. Did you think people just stop caring about football when the world cup ends?
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 08:49
crimson thing wrote:
More rules:
7. "Gol" is actually spelt "Goal" and is never, under any circumstances, to be followed by more than one exclamation point, or rendered in extra-large type.
8. Mark Lawrenson to write out 100 times "I am not nearly as funny as I think I am".
9. Official policy of this site is to lobby FIFA to replace penalty shootouts (and, indeed, the first 90 minutes of all England games) with a "hitting a cows arse with a banjo" competition. Seventeen new FIFA committees, with a roving commission, to be established, to standardise the size and pliablility of the arse & banjo.
PS. can anyone explain how, in the latest FIFA rankings, released today, Portugal have gone down one place, to ninth, whereas England have gone up five places to fifth????  |
Officially we drew with Portugal, cause it was on penalties.
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 10:27
.......but, nonetheless, they beat us by 4 CAs to 3........
(and actually Portugal have gone from seventh to eighth, my mistake...  )
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 11:41
Barla wrote:
What about Argentina's football tournament ??
What do you think ?
For me, River Plate, of course.
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Nah, I'll take Boca Juniors! 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 11:43
Kid-A wrote:
England : Sheffield Utd  |
You mean to be relegated. ? 
Even as a hardline Arsenal fan, I can't forsee Arsenal winning the Premier League because of Chelsea's damn 50 million pound spending spree! 
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 12:12
King of Loss wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
England : Sheffield Utd  |
You mean to be relegated. ? 
Even as a hardline Arsenal fan, I can't forsee Arsenal winning the Premier League because of Chelsea's damn 50 million pound spending spree! 
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Actually, I'm not that negative about Arsenal. They have kept Thierry Henry, in my opinion the best scorer in the Premiership. Furthermore, Lehmann is an excellent keeper, and they have lots of other great players (Ashley Cole, Robin v. Persie, Fabregas just to name a few). Furthermore, you can buy good players, but not a good team. And in my opinion Chelsea got worse towards the end of last season (and I hope that trend continues....)
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 12:15
For all the talk of Chelsea's money, look at who they've actually bought this summer: Ballack & Shevchenko, neither of whom set the world alight at the WC (and divers both, let it be noted........)........so they may not be as unassailable as you think...
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 12:26
Check also Brazilian National, the Brasileirão, where play the real stars not those fake sold to Europe...
No favorite, buddies, we're just in the beginning (10 rounds played) and all teams may be champions.
1st Division (Série A) Classification:
http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/brasileiro/2006/classificacao.jhtm - http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/brasileiro/2006/classificacao.jhtm
Last year champ, Corinthians, is in the red zone (candidate to go to 2nd Division).
2nd Division (Série B) Classification:
http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/brasileiro/2006/serieb/classificacao.jhtm - http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/brasileiro/2006/serieb/classificacao.jhtm
Very interesting with the presence of 4 former champs: Atlético-MG, Guarani, Sport, Coritiba.
P.S.: Football fans aren't n00bs!!! 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 16:38
Maybe because the teams don't have as much money as larger European teams like Manchester United, Chelsea, Juventus, AC Milan, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, etc. I must admit Brazilian football isn't exactly more interesting than European football, but its more competitive 
@Soul Dreamer- Well, Henry isn't exactly as explosive for country as he is for Arsenal, same with Shevchenko it seems. Playing against tougher defenses in the World Cup is also why. Shevchenko and Chelsea should have no problem beating up on all the smaller English teams such as Sheffield Utd, Wigan, Portsmouth, etc. But it seems Arsenal has trouble with that. I remember a lot of the games last year, Arsenal had consistent problems with smaller English teams.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 17:11
Bluesaga wrote:
It's called soccer, Flossy.  |
No it isn't. If it was called soccer, the international governing body would be called FISA rather than FIFA.
As for that bizarre rugby-with-body-armour affair that the ex-colonials are so fond of, I predict that this season's Superdish finalists will be the Arkansas Rednecks and the Tampa Bay Tampons, with the Arkansas Rednecks to win on points after photo finish in the 12th round.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 17:37
I thought you meant American football
I have had enough of the other soccer to last a lifetime- I think....
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 17:39
Syzygy wrote:
Bluesaga wrote:
It's called soccer, Flossy.  |
No it isn't. If it was called soccer, the international governing body would be called FISA rather than FIFA.
As for that bizarre rugby-with-body-armour affair that the ex-colonials are so fond of, I predict that this season's Superdish finalists will be the Arkansas Rednecks and the Tampa Bay Tampons, with the Arkansas Rednecks to win on points after photo finish in the 12th round. |
I think the Chelsea Complainers will win, or the Arsenal Actors. Or maybe the Rotterdamn (fake) Racicts.
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 17:53
King of Loss wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
England : Sheffield Utd  |
You mean to be relegated. ? 
Even as a hardline Arsenal fan, I can't forsee Arsenal winning the Premier League because of Chelsea's damn 50 million pound spending spree! 
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:lol: realistically i would be flabergasted if we (sheff utd) finished in 19th place.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 18:29
Kid-A wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Kid-A wrote:
England : Sheffield Utd  |
You mean to be relegated. ? 
Even as a hardline Arsenal fan, I can't forsee Arsenal winning the Premier League because of Chelsea's damn 50 million pound spending spree! 
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:lol: realistically i would be flabergasted if we (sheff utd) finished in 19th place. |
Yea.. You never know, because Wigan was just promoted plus they actually reached the finals of the Carling Cup by beating Arsenal!
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 18:41
Feijenood ..
Chelzee
Aarsenol
Lieverpol
Bulton Wonderaars
Wieghon Atlietac ... bey King Of Loss ..
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 21:20
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 22:18
Apparently the addressee understood differently! 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 01:56
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
GoldenSpiral wrote:
video vertigo wrote:
This year will be a pretty good year for the titans, they did better than any other team in the draft, I don't think they'll win they're division the Colts will probably take it, but they will edge the Jags at a playoff wild card spot.
The Texans will do better than in previous years but still have a losing record, as will the the Saints.
The Cardinals may make the playoffs if not they will be close, if they do make the playoffs they won't advance.
The Raiders will have the worst record in the NFL followed by the 49ers.
If the Colts had a better running game they would win the Superbowl next season, it'll be a team from the south, maybe the Bucs or the Panthers.
Also Denver and NY Giants will do good.
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it's gotta be Steelers all the way! 
...not to mention the Hokies 
now THAT's football.
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Steelers winning last year was the biggest fluke I'd seen in my life. If not for the critical injury in the Bengals game they would have been crushed, and then The Colts had their game won after that botched run but because of terrible play calling *sigh*.
My blind faith tells me The Eagles will come out on top as it does every year, but logically I'm feeling really confident about The Panthers. |
agreed. The Eagles have a good chance, but I feel more confident about the Panthers this year.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 02:15
Geck0 wrote:
I hate the term Soccer, it's a horrible word used by people who think they sound cool.
The thread deserves a sacrifice.
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Agreed.That word grates on me.Who can we sacrifice? ..where's that Baggie fan gone? 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 02:19
Syzygy wrote:
Bluesaga wrote:
It's called soccer, Flossy.  |
No it isn't. If it was called soccer, the international governing body would be called FISA rather than FIFA.
As for that bizarre rugby-with-body-armour affair that the ex-colonials are so fond of, I predict that this season's Superdish finalists will be the Arkansas Rednecks and the Tampa Bay Tampons, with the Arkansas Rednecks to win on points after photo finish in the 12th round. |
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 05:09
richardh wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
I hate the term Soccer, it's a horrible word used by people who think they sound cool.The thread deserves a sacrifice. |
Agreed.That word grates on me.Who can we sacrifice? ..where's that Baggie fan gone?[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle> |
How about all the ELP fans....should be able to start a small camp fire for a pre-match barbie..
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 15:57
Sorry Tony but ELP fan burning was made illegal a few years ago under a protection order.Its also environmentally unfriendly.However dismembering Dream Theater and Marillion fans is allowed plus anyone admitting to owning a Pavlovs Dog album.You are also allowed to give a sharp poke in the eye to anyone claiming that Gentle Giant are the best band ever.
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 16:40
Lol this is what you guys are talking about in a football thread?
Polish league is strating soon? Who do you think will be the champion this season? Will Legia defend the title or will Wisła beat them? Maybe some other team? 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 17:10
Wolf Spider wrote:
Lol this is what you guys are talking about in a football thread?
Polish league is strating soon? Who do you think will be the champion this season? Will Legia defend the title or will Wisła beat them? Maybe some other team? 
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When will Poland win a major world football championships?  (Including UEFA Cup, Champions League, etc.)
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 17:19
King of Loss wrote:
Wolf Spider wrote:
Lol this is what you guys are talking about in a football thread?
Polish league is strating soon? Who do you think will be the champion this season? Will Legia defend the title or will Wisła beat them? Maybe some other team? 
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When will Poland win a major world football championships?  (Including UEFA Cup, Champions League, etc.) |
Weren't they, the Polish, Olympic Champions in 1972? 
Later they got two WC 3rd places in 1974 (defeating Brazil) and 1982 (defeating France).
Few people know but Poland is the team that scored more goals against Brazil. In the WC 1938 they had 5... but the final result was Brazil 6 x Poland 5. 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 17:41
Wow what a punishment handed out today to the 4 Italian Clubs!
Serie A sides Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to the second division for their involvement in Italy's match-fixing scandal.
Juventus were also stripped of their last two Serie A titles and had 30 points deducted, meaning they are likely to stay down for two seasons.
AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will start the season docked 15 points.
All are barred from competing in Europe - Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina the Champions League; Lazio the Uefa Cup.
Lazio were penalised seven league points while Fiorentina suffered a 12-point penalty.
I guess they will appeal.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 17:49
Tony R wrote:
Wow what a punishment handed out today to the 4 Italian Clubs!
Serie A sides Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to the second division for their involvement in Italy's match-fixing scandal. Juventus were also stripped of their last two Serie A titles and had 30 points deducted, meaning they are likely to stay down for two seasons.
AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will start the season docked 15 points.
All are barred from competing in Europe - Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina the Champions League; Lazio the Uefa Cup.
Lazio were penalised seven league points while Fiorentina suffered a 12-point penalty.
I guess they will appeal. |
Mamma mia! But I did not see here also the new champs for the titles Juve lost... 
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 17:51
...never in a million years would the FA or Premier League have the guts to do anything like that..........you have to applaud the regulatory body in Italy for being tough - although it's interesting that Berlusconi's team gets the lightest sentence...
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 18:04
Thirteen of Italy's World Cup-winning squad play for the clubs involved, with five at Juventus, who also number Patrick Vieira, Lilian Thuram, David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved and Zlatan Ibrahimovic in their ranks.
Many of them are expected to seek transfers to other leading clubs in Italy or Europe to limit the damage to their careers.
Let the scramble begin.....
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 18:33
Hopefully we can get Vieira back!
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Posted By: spacecraft
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 19:25
A fair sacrifice would be the English, after all, they are all made as welcome as a fart in spacesuit, wherever they go.
I guess they can't let go of the old empire, that the US made them dump after WW2.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:53
Tony R wrote:
Thirteen of Italy's World Cup-winning squad play for the clubs involved, with five at Juventus, who also number Patrick Vieira, Lilian Thuram, David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved and Zlatan Ibrahimovic in their ranks.
Many of them are expected to seek transfers to other leading clubs in Italy or Europe to limit the damage to their careers.
Let the scramble begin..... |
Del Piero is staying though.
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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 21:05
Just watched the news, Juventus, AC Milan, Lazio and another team have been moved to the serie B..
LOL Tony R has said that.. Chelsea for Premier League!!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 21:20
imoeng wrote:
Just watched the news, Juventus, AC Milan, Lazio and another team have been moved to the serie B..
LOL Tony R has said that.. Chelsea for Premier League!! |
AC Milan are staying in the top flight.
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 21:36
King of Loss wrote:
imoeng wrote:
Just watched the news, Juventus, AC Milan, Lazio and another team have been moved to the serie B..
LOL Tony R has said that.. Chelsea for Premier League!! |
AC Milan are staying in the top flight. |
Yeah but they got a 15 point deduction so they won't be champions this year. They also cannot compete in European championships.
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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:28
I don't really understand the reason cause I don't really follow Serie A, what was happening actually?? 
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:59
imoeng wrote:
I don't really understand the reason cause I don't really follow Serie A, what was happening actually??  |
Well, the reason is bribing & game fixing. Especially Juventus was very active with this. They "bought" victories from other teams, and also bought referees to fix the games. Everything came out only a few months before the world cup.
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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 07:11
So what about the live matches? Do people noticed this? I dont get it..
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 10:23
Juventus and the other teams have bribed certain referees and then affected the selection of referees so that these certain referees are in their matches. At least that's how I've understood it. The players haven't been accused of anything.
It's good that these scumbags get what they deserve. How AC Milan escaped the bigger punishments is beyond me though, could be because of Berlusconi? 
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 14:15
It's all a little odd when you remember that the guy widely acknowledged to be the best referee in Europe (although now retired) came from Italy......I'm ashamed to say I've forgotten his name, but you know who I mean, the bald guy....
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 14:56
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 19:02
Ya, that's him. He should come back from retirement to just call Juventus games!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 19 2006 at 20:55
Ahhh, Real Madrid got lucky. They landed Cannavaro and Emerson for about 20 Million Euros, what a bargain!
IMO, Juventus should have upped the ante, and cannavaro would have probably himself generated 10 million pounds
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: July 19 2006 at 21:07
Why the hell did Nedved choose to stay?
If I was a Juve player, I would just leave and hope Juve get skint. Imagine winning two championships, then finding out they were cheated. The fans and the players were both absolutely f**ked over by the club.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 19 2006 at 21:17
Kid-A wrote:
Why the hell did Nedved choose to stay?
If I was a Juve player, I would just leave and hope Juve get skint. Imagine winning two championships, then finding out they were cheated. The fans and the players were both absolutely f**ked over by the club. |
Have you heard of loyalty! 
Looks like Gigi Buffon is also staying.
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 20 2006 at 07:26
Kid-A wrote:
Why the hell did Nedved choose to stay?
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: July 20 2006 at 09:27
I heard tomorrow morning that Barcelona has now Zambrotta and Thuram.. i though Thuram will be also loyal with Juve...
About Zambrotta, c`mon Barca, what more do you want, he`s a monster... 
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Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: July 21 2006 at 02:41
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: July 21 2006 at 02:56
Why would he want to be loyal?
That's like staying loyal to a girlfriend who's cheated on you 21 times.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:14
Amazing that the point deductions were reduced for Milan, meaning they are now going to play in the CL, I believe they should not be able to......
Shows Silvio's influence.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:17
I knew I hated football for all its rottenness, but in Italy this really takes the cake!
Worst part is that Juventus' resigning coach had forecasted this would end in general laughter. I guss he the rotten one should know just how deep this rot was!!!
I frigging hate professional sports >> they should be banned!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:24
Sean Trane wrote:
I knew I hated football for all its rottenness, but in Italy this really takes the cake!
Worst part is that Juventus' resigning coach had forecasted this would end in general laughter. I guss he the rotten one should know just how deep this rot was!!!
I frigging hate professional sports >> they should be banned! |
For those comments
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:28
King of Loss wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I knew I hated football for all its rottenness, but in Italy this really takes the cake!
Worst part is that Juventus' resigning coach had forecasted this would end in general laughter. I guss he the rotten one should know just how deep this rot was!!!
I frigging hate professional sports >> they should be banned! |
For those comments |
For yours!!! 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:05
Sean Trane wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I knew I hated football for all its rottenness, but in Italy this really takes the cake!
Worst part is that Juventus' resigning coach had forecasted this would end in general laughter. I guss he the rotten one should know just how deep this rot was!!!
I frigging hate professional sports >> they should be banned! |
For those comments |
For yours!!! 
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The Terminator would then post this!
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:09
^ ok, stop the fight
News from Greece: Olympiakos is trying hard to sign Ze Roberto (it is rumoured that the proposal is 7 M euros for 3 years)
the thing gets complicated now that Milan will play in Ch League Quals. (it is rumoured that they also want him)
if Ze comes in Greece, we will have a trio of Latin - Bazil - Sampa
Rivaldo, Julio Cesar (former Real Madrid player, just signed) and Ze...
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:14
Sean Trane wrote:
I knew I hated football for all its rottenness, but in Italy this really takes the cake!
Worst part is that Juventus' resigning coach had forecasted this would end in general laughter. I guss he the rotten one should know just how deep this rot was!!!
I frigging hate professional sports >> they should be banned! |
Alas, Hugues - how true! And it does not stop at football, I'm afraid...
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:15
King of Loss wrote:
Amazing that the point deductions were reduced for Milan, meaning they are now going to play in the CL, I believe they should not be able to......
Shows Silvio's influence.
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Flossy, I've been eating! 
Don't you worry, this is my usual reaction to SB's name... to say that I hate him would be an understatement!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:21
aapatsos wrote:
^ ok, stop the fight
News from Greece: Olympiakos is trying hard to sign Ze Roberto (it is rumoured that the proposal is 7 M euros for 3 years)
the thing gets complicated now that Milan will play in Ch League Quals. (it is rumoured that they also want him)
if Ze comes in Greece, we will have a trio of Latin - Bazil - Sampa
Rivaldo, Julio Cesar (former Real Madrid player, just signed) and Ze... |
Most likely, Ze would go for the better team! 
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:38
Today is the grand finale of Copa do Brasil (Brazil Cup) and I'm really very nervous .
I hope my FLAMENGO may keep the 2 goal advantage and be the Champs!!!  It shall be a gift for 40 million supporters... yeh, 40,000,000 - more than the entire population of Spain!!!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:51
Good luck to Flamengo, then!
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 13:31
Hi, am new to this thread, and don't know whether it has already been posted.
Football and progrock are amongst the greatest British inventions, and rock bands love football, especially Yes - take a look at Chris Welch's "Close To The Edge" and you will find a photo of Yes United.
In an unlikely game Yes United vs Iron Maiden, who would you support??
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 13:34
RaphaelT wrote:
Hi, am new to this thread, and don't know whether it has already been posted.
Football and progrock are amongst the greatest British inventions, and rock bands love football, especially Yes - take a look at Chris Welch's "Close To The Edge" and you will find a photo of Yes United.
In an unlikely game Yes United vs Iron Maiden, who would you support?? |
I'd support Yes.
I wonder which London team he supports?
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 13:38
Jon Anderson was known to support Accrington Stanley and Rick Wakeman now supports Manchester City, the opposite of Tony R's club!
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:46
West Ham, that's Steve Harris' team, right?
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 23:07

We got it! FLAMENGO - 2006 Copa do Brasil Champions!!!
The "Nation" is happy!!!
Famous recent players that made history with Flamengo:
Zagallo (yes, the old man), Germano (the one who married an Italian countess), Gerson (midfield, WC 70 team), Brito (defender, WC 70 team), Paulo César (forward, WC 70 & 74 team), ZICO (our no. 1 player of all times), Junior (WC 82 team, ex-Torino), Mozer, Bebeto, Renato Gaúcho, Leonardo (ex-Milan), Aldair, Romário, Djalminha, Amoroso, Júlio César (goal-keeper WC 2006), Gilberto (WC 2006, left defender), Adriano (The Emperor), Juan (WC 2006, defender).
Also played with Flamengo: Socrátes, Casagrande, Zé Roberto, Edmundo, etc.
The club was founded 1895.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 03:00
RaphaelT wrote:
Hi, am new to this thread, and don't know whether it has already been posted.
Football and progrock are amongst the greatest British inventions, and rock bands love football, especially Yes - take a look at Chris Welch's "Close To The Edge" and you will find a photo of Yes United.
In an unlikely game Yes United vs Iron Maiden, who would you support?? |
What a question! Up the Irons! (though I'm a huge Yes fan too... but I've got a strong emotional bond with Maiden too).
For Guigo: congrats! Well done, Flamengo!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 04:17
Ghost Rider wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I knew I hated football for all its rottenness, but in Italy this really takes the cake!
Worst part is that Juventus' resigning coach had forecasted this would end in general laughter. I guss he the rotten one should know just how deep this rot was!!!
I frigging hate professional sports >> they should be banned! |
Alas, Hugues - how true! And it does not stop at football, I'm afraid...
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I'm not sure whether Flossie was upset at my call on a banning football altogether (most likely after seeing his Arsenal avatar) , but I thought his post at finding SB's influence simply horrendous >>> SB is actually institutionalizing widespread corruption.
Sickening!!!!
Raf, unfortunately this corruption and cheating (doping is cheating) is most sports, but SB and Ecclestone bring corruption to a new height and even make it an ideal or a religion.
Infortunately the corruption is not only in sports >>> SB is also taking it in political arenas. this was there already, but he brought it up to professional levels to
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:33
You know, with this relegation and point deduction, they might just be back in the top flight next year!
But its a shame such a good team was disbanded, unlike the one that also should have been disbanded if you know what I mean! 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:20
King of Loss wrote:
You know, with this relegation and point deduction, they might just be back in the top flight next year! >>> not with the original 30 points penalty, they would not!! they'd have to wait the year after (at least) provided they find good enough players willing to play at the inferior rung and the financial losses (or loss of possible gains ) would cause enough damage to harm them a few years >>>> WHICH IS EXACTLY THE POINT OF THESE PENALTIES
But its a shame such a good team was disbanded, unlike the one that also should have been disbanded if you know what I mean! 
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 10:45
^ come on, it's a good thing that they have taken them to court
at least they did sth about that
in Greece these things happen and noone is prosecuted
except from the club as a company, it's also the players who are 'damaged'
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Posted By: spacecraft
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 19:23
Nope not a topic for the under 19's, but one about the under 19 european championships.
The final On saturday is between (favourites) Spain, and God's country Ecosse (Scotland to the non-Frenchies).
However, according to all the UK news and sports programmes, it doesn't exist??? When the Scots won throiugh to the final, i waded through endless UK sports proggies and news ones too, thinking they would mention such an acheivement from a very small populated country.
(blink) no........not a bloody word, not even a wee result.
Now if the (blinking) English had qualified, it would have been in every sports bulletin, top sports news and on Sky sports, and we would be having interviews and inane drivell about their lives. Why??
Because the B(E)BC, ITV, channel 4, channel 5, and Sky, are all English driven, all the other countries in the UK are dismissed when the English sporting teams are on. If one of the other countries manages to do well, they get 2 seconds on national tv, if they are lucky. But, whne the bloody awful English are good, dire or indifferent, we Scots, the Northern Irish and Welsh too, get it stuffed down our throats.
All i ask is WHY????????
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 23:16
Just moved the last post to try gathering all football stuff in a single topic!
The f***, say 'fellas', were however replaced.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 23:23
Ghost Rider wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
Hi, am new to this thread, and don't know whether it has already been posted.
Football and progrock are amongst the greatest British inventions, and rock bands love football, especially Yes - take a look at Chris Welch's "Close To The Edge" and you will find a photo of Yes United.
In an unlikely game Yes United vs Iron Maiden, who would you support?? |
What a question! Up the Irons! (though I'm a huge Yes fan too... but I've got a strong emotional bond with Maiden too).
For Guigo: congrats! Well done, Flamengo!
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Thanks, GR!!!  
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:01
spacecraft wrote:
Nope not a topic for the under 19's, but one about the under 19 european championships.
The final On saturday is between (favourites) Spain, and God's country Ecosse (Scotland to the non-Frenchies).
However, according to all the UK news and sports programmes, it doesn't exist??? When the Scots won throiugh to the final, i waded through endless UK sports proggies and news ones too, thinking they would mention such an acheivement from a very small populated country.
(blink) no........not a bloody word, not even a wee result.
Now if the (blinking) English had qualified, it would have been in every sports bulletin, top sports news and on Sky sports, and we would be having interviews and inane drivell about their lives. Why??
Because the B(E)BC, ITV, channel 4, channel 5, and Sky, are all English driven, all the other countries in the UK are dismissed when the English sporting teams are on. If one of the other countries manages to do well, they get 2 seconds on national tv, if they are lucky. But, whne the bloody awful English are good, dire or indifferent, we Scots, the Northern Irish and Welsh too, get it stuffed down our throats.
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that's sad... I understand your anger
well I can't give any more explanation than you did
they just probably don't care
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 15:02
The Englishman says:
"Its Just bloody Scotland, they'd never win anything anyways"
The Scot says:
"Damn bloke, you haven't made it to a major international final since 66  "
The Englishman says:
"Whatever, you smelly Scot, we'll just post that on the back of our controlled newspapers"
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 17:52
^ nice one
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