Bands which should be included on Progarc

T.Rox wrote: micky wrote: hey Coops.. if you aren't careful you might get some sort of half-baked tag like 'Australian Prog Specialist' thinking about adding a 3rd member to the Xover team for the time in the distant future that Dean and I disagree on something hahahha.  We do have a fine line we walk and the more opinions.. the better.   I don't know about "specialist"!   There is an "Australian prog sound" from the late 60's / early 70's that seems to be a strange blend of prog influences, coupled with blues and heavy rock influences that interests me. It is usually more guitar-based than keyboards. I didn't really cotton on to it when I would have had easy access to the LP's in the mid to late 70's because I was getting into the usual overseas artists (from an Australian perspective) like Genesis, Yes, Tull, The Who, Focus, Heep, Zeppelin, Purple and so on. This really important Australian music legacy managed to pass me by as it was fairly well off the mainstream and as the oldest in my family (13-years old when most of these bands had been and gone) I had no older influences to direct me to them. Thankfully Aztec Music (soon to be re-issuing Spectrum's Milesago album) and other companies (Vicious Sloth Records is one I can think of) are doing some good work on re-issues. And it would appear that Warner Music, who bought out the iconic Australian record company Festival Mushroom Records, may be starting to look at some re-issues of the amazing back catalogue it inherited as evidenced by the recent Split Enz remasters issues. Fingers crossed for more excellent re-issues from what ever source they may come!

oh yes... those blues and heavy rock influences are very apparent.

Terra Australis wrote: T.Rox wrote:   I don't know about "specialist"!   There is an "Australian prog sound" from the late 60's / early 70's that seems to be a strange blend of prog influences, coupled with blues and heavy rock influences that interests me. It is usually more guitar-based than keyboards. I didn't really cotton on to it when I would have had easy access to the LP's in the mid to late 70's because I was getting into the usual overseas artists (from an Australian perspective) like Genesis, Yes, Tull, The Who, Focus, Heep, Zeppelin, Purple and so on. This really important Australian music legacy managed to pass me by as it was fairly well off the mainstream and as the oldest in my family (13-years old when most of these bands had been and gone) I had no older influences to direct me to them. Thankfully Aztec Music (soon to be re-issuing Spectrum's Milesago album) and other companies (Vicious Sloth Records is one I can think of) are doing some good work on re-issues. And it would appear that Warner Music, who bought out the iconic Australian record company Festival Mushroom Records, may be starting to look at some re-issues of the amazing back catalogue it inherited as evidenced by the recent Split Enz remasters issues. Fingers crossed for more excellent re-issues from what ever source they may come!   You can get Spectrum/Ariel CDs directly from Mike Rudd and Bill Putts web site. The Ariel cd with "In the Garden of the Frenzied Cortina's" is highly recommended.

Terra Australis wrote: ^ So how do we get Ariel/Spectrum on PA?

Edited by T.Rox - September 30 2007 at 17:30

progressive wrote: RIO/Avant-Prog , Prog Folk , Experimental/Post-Rock ? - Vialka

Well not Post-Rock for sure, and IMHO not Prog Folk either.   Or if they are then I'm going to add Camper van Beethoven as well .   I think there is a tendency sometimes to attach the Folk label to bands that are hard to classify but have accents (French in this case) and use some non-traditional instrumentation. I dug up several on-line reviews of Vialka's live shows and it's interesting none of the French or Canadian writers referred to them as Folk, but some of the American ones did.

Fun as hell to listen to though; they have lots of samples on their web site and mySpace. Much like CvB and Holly & the Italians from the 80s, and bands like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Idiot Flesh, and UI Blue today, these guys do a great job of picking up whatever from wherever and working it into their repertoire (and they are very well-traveled so the repertoire is pretty diverse). But like White Stripes or Idiot Flesh they also seem to be multi-dimensional performers as much as musicians, so it seems to me they would fit best in Avant.

But about RIO/avant-garde... ok there IS lots of different bands and styles under that. Yes, I thought that it would be best for Vialka (so I have it first in the "list"). I just feel there's something rotten putting all into same category. I couldn't imagine it on Prog Folk, but you can't say it isn't folk - there's many kinds of folk.

About KTU, I think it is going to RIO/avant-garde, too, though I don't  see them  fitting there.

Experimental = post-rock
RIO = avant-prog
?

(and sometimes
RIO = experimental
RIO = post-rock)

Could we separate all these?

Maybe it's too late, and difficult.

I always thought King Diamond and Nevermore deserve a place here.

Here are some other bands (which I rescently discovered) which should be included on this site becasue they are definitely "prog":

1.Samurai (Japanese-English, Eclectic or Heavy prog, albums: "Samurai (or "Green Tea")-1970, "Kappa"-1971)
2.Locomotive (Proto-Prog, Eclectic Prog or Proto-Prog, album: "We Are Everything You See"-1969, they are pre-The Norman Haines Band)
3.Frame (German, Heavy Prog, album: "Frame of Mind"-1972, they are pre-Pell Mell)
4.Schéhérazade (Japanese, Neoprogressive or Symphonic Prog, album: "Schéhérazade"-1992, Toshio Egawa on keyboards!)
5.Hiro Yanagida (Japanese, Psychedelic/Space Rock, albums: "Milk Time"-1971, "7sai no Rojin Tengoku ("Elderly Person Heaven Of Seven Years" or "Hiro Yanagida")-1971, "Hiro"-1972, "Hirocosmos"-1973, "UFO"-1978)
6.Mystic Siva (American, Psychedelic/Space Rock, albums: "Mystic Siva"-1971, "Under The Influence" -2003(1969-70 recorded))
7.Skin Alley (English, Eclectic Prog, "Skin Alley"-1969, "To Pagham and beyond"-1970, "Two Quid Deal"-1972, "Skintight"-1973)
8.Mad Curry (Belgian, Eclectic Prog, album: "Mad Curry"-1970)
9.Cold Fairyland (Chinese, Prog-Folk or Neoprogressive, albums: "Flying over the city"-2001, "Ten Days in Magic Land"-2002, "Kingdom of Benevolent Strangers"-2003, "Bride in Legend"-2004, "Ten Days in Magic Land"-2005, "Cold fairyland 2005 Live"-2006, "Seeds on the Ground"-2005)
10.Purple Overdose (Greek, Heavy Prog, albums: "Exit #4"-1988, "Indigo"-1990, "Purple Overdose"-1994, "Solemn Visions"-1996, "Reborn", "The Salmon's Trip ‡Live‡"-2001, "Painting The Air"-2004, "A Trip To Purpleland (The Early Years Live)-2006")
11.Rare Earth (American. Heavy Prog or Eclectic Prog, best albums: "Get Ready"-1969(includes 21+ min. title track!), "Ecology"-1970)
12.Steamboat Switzerland (Switzerland, Experimental/Post Rock, albums: "Live"-1998, "AC/dB (Hayden)"-2001, "Budapest"-2001, "Wertmuller"-2005, "Unknown Song/Zone")
13.Flied Egg (Japanese, Heavy Prog, albums: "Dr. Siegel's Fried Egg Shooting Machine"-1972, "Goodbye"-1972, includes Hiro Yanagida on keyboards)
14.Apryl Fool (Japanese, Proto-Prog, album: "Apryl Fool"-1969, includes Hiro Yanagida on keyboards)
15.Shinki Chen (Japanese, Heavy Prog, album: "Shinki Chen & His Friends"-1971, includes Hiro Yanagida on keyboards)
16.Love Live Life + One (Japanese, Psychedelic/Space Rock, album: "Love will make a better you"-1971, Hiro Yanagida on keyboards)
17.Rick Van Der Linden (Netherlands, Progressive Electronic or Symphonic Prog, albums: "Plays Albioni, Bach, Handel"-1976, "GX-1"-1977, "Night of Doom"-1977, "Solo"-1981, "Ol Driends, New Friends"-1985, "Vivace"-2001)

And that's all...only for now of course

Edited by ozzy_tom - November 26 2007 at 09:31