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    Posted: October 29 2007 at 10:59
Why are we always suggesting new bands when there are so many bands on the archives lacking reviews. I do my best to review stuff that recieves very little or no reviews as my time permits. For example, I`ve tried to review every Omega album as well as  albums from Jan Akkerman Larry Coryell, Octobre, john McLaughlin and others which don`t recieve that much attention. I have quite a few albums but am reluctant to review an album that has been over-reviewed. And I`ll only review an album that I`ve been listening to recently or pick an album that hasn`t been reviewed, listen to it and then review it.

What`s the point of adding bands/artists with no reviews?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 11:08
Hm...good point, but maybe it's because PA "...intends to be the most complete and powerful progressive rock resource."

maybe it's predominating quantity over quality here...Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 11:21
Artists? We don' need no stinkin' artists!
 
There are a lot of albums posted here that need reviews.  I try to do my part.


Edited by Slartibartfast - October 29 2007 at 11:22
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 11:21
Should a dictionary give up some words because they're too much?
 
Not a matter of quality or quantity but a compromise with the facts. Maybe a band from Turkey or Nepal doesn't interest North Americans or Europeans but who knows if some guys in Asia have the interest... who knows?
 
For reviews being done one have to see the artist here in PA and so... well, that's the basic principle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 12:20

all new submissions have been suggested by a member in the first place, they should pick up on them when their bands are included and do a review. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 13:29
Thanks for that Mystic. When I did the few bios for additions I suggested I wrote a few reviews for each to get the ball rolling hoping that others would pick up on my lead. From time to time I`ll scroll through the archives and pick a band at random that I`ve never heard of only to discover no freakin`reviews. NO FREAKIN`REVIEWS Confused.!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 13:31
I support the addition of new bands, otherwise the archives becomes stagnant and un-progressive itself. however, the lack of reviews does need to be addressed. perhaps the person(s) who vied for the inclusion of the band should be required to write a review of the albums, at least two or three. if they want the band to be included they should at least know the music enough to have listened to a sufficient amount of the band's material.  The work can be done collaboratively if need be. the band bio's are already handled like this, lets make a move to start with the reviews?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 13:37
At least there's a possibility for an album to be reviewed if it's here...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 14:51
Originally posted by P.H.P. P.H.P. wrote:

Hm...good point, but maybe it's because PA "...intends to be the most complete and powerful progressive rock resource."

maybe it's predominating quantity over quality here...Confused


 
Is there anything on this flawed site that you agree with? Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 16:47
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

I support the addition of new bands, otherwise the archives becomes stagnant and un-progressive itself. however, the lack of reviews does need to be addressed. perhaps the person(s) who vied for the inclusion of the band should be required to write a review of the albums, at least two or three. if they want the band to be included they should at least know the music enough to have listened to a sufficient amount of the band's material.  The work can be done collaboratively if need be. the band bio's are already handled like this, lets make a move to start with the reviews?
I`ll personally review everything by Spinal Tap if they`re added!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 16:50
Maybe reviews should be prepared alongside the bios so the band will at least have a few reviews from the get go. Make this a sort of policy when adding bands.This is basically what I did with Guru Guru, Larry Coryell & Octobre when I did their bios.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2007 at 16:57
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:



What`s the point of adding bands/artists with no reviews?


Are we adding bands/artists strictly for them to be reviewed/for their reviews?! Ermm
Or are we adding bands/artists because they're progressive/accepted as progressive?!

It really sounds to me like the suggestion is that we've added all the possible prog artists in the world, or that we should stop and don't allow anymore artists. Reviewing an artist, despite that you're right, and it's sad how many prog albums are not reviewed or discovered, is not a conditional (needless to think of "compulsory") thing for adding an artist/band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2007 at 10:53
I`ve got it then. If someone adds an album then they have to review it. There. Problem solved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2007 at 16:01
I try to review every band I add. I still "in writing" as for my VESPERO and GDEVA reviews, and I'd like to propose a new band soon

As for adding new artists - don't you wanna see KROBAK on the Archives? I would...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2007 at 16:43
Well, once you get the album out I`ll be the first to review it Approve.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2007 at 00:17
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I`ve got it then. If someone adds an album then they have to review it. There. Problem solved.
 
No, not necessarily. I included KENSO's 2006 album in July '07. I had only noticed it existed a wekk earlier, and no one else in PA had, apparently. I'm yet to review it, and I'd really like to have the inspiration and time to do it. Anyway, it's better having it listed here, with cover image and tracklist and all, although temorarily unreviewed, than not having it here at all as if it didn't exist. Don't you think?
 
Given the dynamics inherente to PA, this is the natural order of things: adding first, then hoping that reviews won't take too long to appear.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2007 at 00:23
Sorry to be crude, but this is the most absurd question I read, if an artist is Prog, he must be added.
 
About the albums without reviews, i have added a lot of bands and artist, but one example is Jean-Luc Ponty, I added him and of course all his discography of almost 30 albums, but I reviewed only the albums I'm familiar with.
 
How in hell can i review King Kong or Canteloupe Island if I haven't heard them?
 
But this doesn't justify to include a mutilated discography.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2007 at 10:47
OK I`ve got a better solution. We get easy livin`to block us from reviewing albums that have already been reviewed. That way we`ll be forced to review albums that haven`t been reviewed ( see his list ). All we have to do is go to the list and choose an album and eventually all the albums will get reviewed....eventually. I`m not going to review any previously reviewed albums from now on. There, problem solved end of thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2007 at 11:18
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

OK I`ve got a better solution. We get easy livin`to block us from reviewing albums that have already been reviewed. That way we`ll be forced to review albums that haven`t been reviewed ( see his list ). All we have to do is go to the list and choose an album and eventually all the albums will get reviewed....eventually. I`m not going to review any previously reviewed albums from now on. There, problem solved end of thread.


nope:
  • blocking albums from being reviewed
and

  • forcing reviewers to review a particular album
is not part of PA's policy, nor should it be.

Look, however sad it is the ratio between over-popular albums and consequently forgotten artists, you have to realize each of the 30-40 reviewers that put their text in a day choose what to review and how to review. However good an impulse towards reviewing much more and much broadened, forcing and denying doesn't sound the right thing.

(and, though I'm not in a versatile mood at all by saying this, I think you shouldn't decide on your own that this thread's debate is ended and your point wins. You can already see this subject can be discussed. Ermm)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2007 at 11:44
C`mon lighten up I was sort of half joking. But  "seriously"  I`ve found a few albums from Easy Livin`s list that deserve to be reviewed which I`m going to dig out and listen to such as Norweigan band Ruphus` `76 album "Let Your Light Shine" which unbelievingly has not been reviewed yet. 
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