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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: October 04 2007 at 10:12 |
 A B Negative wrote:
I thought it was King's Kiss! |
I only know King's X who are indeed called King's Cross. 
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Dean
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 10:17 |
As an Englishman (as opposed to a Britisher) I endeavour to use English spellings whenever I can actually manage to spell the word properly in the first place. Pointing out the differences between the proper way to spell a word and the American way is a gentle pastime of light relief to we British that may appear pompous, but is actually the reverse. I spell Dream Theater as Theatre because it amuses me, just as much as when I see Theatre of Tragedy, Theatre of Hate, Theatre Des Vampires, Theatre of the Macabre and Nightmare Theatre spelt the American way it makes me smile. It's childish, but that's why we are two nations seperated by a common language.
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I have taken to using more and more 'American' words like apartment, elevator, gasoline and sidewalk when I am there.
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Oddly - so do I.
The the same thing happens when I visit Scotland - I seem to pick up a Scots Brogue that is never intended to be patronising, it just happens.
I think it's a case of "When in Rome do as the Romans do" as the say 
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Raff
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 10:21 |
darqdean wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
I have taken to using more and more 'American' words like apartment, elevator, gasoline and sidewalk when I am there.
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Oddly - so do I.
The the same thing happens when I visit Scotland - I seem to pick up a Scots Brogue that is never intended to be patronising, it just happens.
I think it's a case of "When in Rome do as the Romans do" as the say |
Well, I lived in your beloved Siena  for eight years, and people used to tell me I'd acquired the local accent - which is very distinctive and easily recognisable to every native speaker of Italian. I've noticed Micky often uses the British spelling of words.... I'll always remember one time when Geck0 complimented him on having written "colour" instead of "color" - and that was before we "came out", so to say!  I think I've influenced him big time...
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Dean
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 10:22 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
I thought it was King's Kiss! |
I only know King's X who are indeed called King's Cross.
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So, Symphony X are called Symphony Cross.  Cool 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 10:53 |
^ what about Malcolm Cross ... or Generation Cross for that matter? 
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 12:15 |
 Or crosslax...
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oroboross
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 14:09 |
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This is some Dream Theater thread. I can't believe there is so much discussion about how to spell a bands name. You look at their cd cover and copy it. Easy enough. How do Italians spell Labyrinth? Music sounds the same no matter how you spell it.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 22:06 |
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By the way the band spells it I guess, it would seem most appropiate.
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FunnyWays
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 14:17 |
Its a name and names have to be spelt the same whatever country you in. There an American band so there called theater, if they were a british band everyone would have to put up with it being the other way.
Anyway to me theater makes more sence, don't like the look of the word theatre.
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Dean
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 14:42 |
FunnyWays wrote:
Its a name and names have to be spelt the same whatever country you in. There an American band so there called theater, if they were a british band everyone would have to put up with it being the other way.
Anyway to me theater makes more sence, don't like the look of the word theatre. |
eh? What? What's not to like? It looks too French?
I guess you won't be walking a 100 metres to the shopping centre for a litre of milk. 
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Peter
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:27 |
FunnyWays wrote:
Its a name and names have to be spelt the same whatever country you in. There an American band so there called theater, if they were a british band everyone would have to put up with it being the other way.
Anyway to me theater makes more sence, don't like the look of the word theatre. |
Listen to this guy -- he knows his English....
As with many words, theater is spelled differently by Americans and Brits, thus both spellings are "right." Deal with it, folks!
Regarding the British version, I can tell by looking at the "re"ending that it's almost certainly French in origin. Yes -- I just confirmed, via my Dictionary of Word Origins that it does indeed come from Old French (via that Norman Conquest thing, no doubt).
Now stop banging on about it, and go read a book, for Pete's sake!
Edited by Peter - October 30 2007 at 22:29
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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The T
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:34 |
All of this is nonsense....
Names are to be pronounced and written as they are... ANYWHERE... there are NAMES belonging to only ONE entity in the world... no matter how many bands/people/whatever share the name, when it refers to a particular being, it's only HIS/HER...
I never agree with people in spanish translating Johann Sebastian Bach into Juan Sebastian Bach... Aghhh!  His name is JOHANN... I would never like to see Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra called Michael of Cervantes Saavedra (aghhh )... Even with supid things, I don't translate even names of cars, hotels, anything... If I can't pronounce the word (as, for example, a french name) I just pronounce it like I can, but I never translate as it's NOT a generic but something for just ONE being...
Why don't we call The Beatles Los Escarabajos (it would have to be different as Beat-and beetles are different... it's a game of words..) Or I know! All of you Genesis worshippers! For now on, as my language is spanish, it's Pedro Gabriel and Felipe Collins for me... and Yes is no longer Yes, it's SI.
Dream Theater were named Dream THEATER by their members.. If they chose to name themselves Dream THIATREDS just because they wanted to, it's their band and their name... the same with any band.
This wins for most useless thread ever....sorry
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Atkingani
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:41 |
There are some exceptions with kings, popes, biblical and ancient characters, no? 
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The T
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:47 |
Atkingani wrote:
There are some exceptions with kings, popes, biblical and ancient characters, no? |
I don't agree... well, with kings and Popes, THEY actually choose their names and as it's somewhat of a "universal possesion" (yes, this sounds weird... I don't know how to explain it, but think of the Pope as -according to Christians- the Apostle of God in Earth, so as God is Universal, well, there's no "property" or sense of belonging in a Pope's name... the only case....)
With biblical characters, that's actually because we have been taught so. And because the only prints of the bible available to most people are prints in each person's own language..
Hector villalobos? Hector Village-Wolves?? (  )... No, I prefer Heitor...
And I demand that even for myself. At work, people used to call me THEO... I have asked everyone to call me TEO... that's not my name (short for my name actually) but that's how it's spelled....imagine my last name which is Gomez de la Torre translated: Gomez of The Tower.... 
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Peter
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:50 |
Logan wrote:
Actually, both spellings are considered correct in the US, I believe. I have a spell-check program running in the background as I type, and it's underlining "theatre" which indicates that it should be revised.
Irregardless of country, of course the band name should be spelled as they spell it (not sure if the members of DT can spell, but that's by-the-by). I know I often feel bad about skipping umlauts/ accents/ various punctuation marks in some band and album names -- not good with the keyboard symbols.
Since, like I spell colour with a "u", I usually automatically spell theatre with an "re" at the end, I have to think before spelling out the band's name. Or at least i did, now I'm used to writing out Dream Theater. Although DT -- delerium tremens - usually suffices. Actually, I don't like the use of acronyms much -- there are other bands that that can be abbreviated to DT, like Deadsoul Tribe, but I Digress Terribly.
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Your spell check program is set to American English, then. Canada follows British spelling patterns.
(American versions are inevitably creeping in, though, as reading and writing skills deteriorate, and mass media and the Internet spread California surfer/Valley-speak to, like, every corner of the world).
You and every good Canadian are SUPPOSED to spell "colour" with a "u." Leave out the u and I'll deduct a mark!
The word is regardless. "Irregardless" is not a word.
Thus concludes the lesson.
Good luck with the delirium tremens, by the way!
Edited by Peter - October 30 2007 at 23:02
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Proletariat
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:52 |
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Grammer are for pussies
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Peter
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 22:59 |
The T wrote:
All of this is nonsense....
Dream Theater were named Dream THEATER by their members.. If they chose to name themselves Dream THIATREDS just because they wanted to, it's their band and their name... the same with any band.
This wins for most useless thread ever....sorry |
Well, the thread is petty, certainly, but Dream Theater spelt their name as they did because they are Americans. They did not invent the spelling. (Yes, a band can misspell its name if the members so wish, but nonetheless "theater" is a correct spelling.)
Spelling in a standard fashion is certainly not "nonsense." You might as well say adding or subtracting in a standard fashion is nonsense. Languages have rules to facilitate effective communication from one writer or speaker to the next. That's just the way the world works, my friend.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 23:04 |
Proletariat wrote:
Grammer are for pussies |
you mean 'Grammers'
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Proletariat
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 23:07 |
Atavachron wrote:
Proletariat wrote:
Grammer are for pussies |
you mean 'Grammers'
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oops, I meant Grammers is for pussies
 i'm so embarassed
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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The T
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Posted: October 30 2007 at 23:35 |
Peter wrote:
The T wrote:
All of this is nonsense....
Dream Theater were named Dream THEATER by their members.. If they chose to name themselves Dream THIATREDS just because they wanted to, it's their band and their name... the same with any band.
This wins for most useless thread ever....sorry |
Well, the thread is petty, certainly, but Dream Theater spelt their name as they did because they are Americans. They did not invent the spelling. (Yes, a band can misspell its name if the members so wish, but nonetheless "theater" is a correct spelling.)
Spelling in a standard fashion is certainly not "nonsense." You might as well say adding or subtracting in a standard fashion is nonsense. Languages have rules to facilitate effective communication from one writer or speaker to the next. That's just the way the world works, my friend. |
my dear teacher, I understand and agree. But with names, I mantain my position. Or are you PEDRO?
My good teacher. 
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