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Points: 11682 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2007 at 20:21
I was looking forward to that release
After that review I have grown extremely hestitant. The thought of it being very heavy is not appealing to me at all. The influences that it mentions are not what I hoped. It seems less prog, more metal, which is exactly what might drive me straight away from this album.
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If that review is accurate, then DT has done everything I was hoping they'd do (i.e. focus on the thrash and Floyd influences, don't write cheesy ballads, make the overall vibe dark and heavy without sounding forced, like in some of TOT).

Unfortunately, I doubt that the review paints a good, relatively unbiased picture. The guy is clearly a huge DT fan, perhaps even fanboy Ermm. So, the answer to the question, "Is the new one a masterpiece, or is it DT-lite like tracks 1-7 on Octavarium?" is (IMO) most likely, "somewhere in between".

I hope I'm wrong, and the reviewer is right when he says it's "undoubtedly" their best in "many years".
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I don't like the title (Would be really pissed off, if it sounded like Dragonforce or Rhapsody Dead) so let's hope they won't come out with something like "Hey listen here, we can still play METAL!!" just like they did in 2003 when "Train Of Thought" was released....
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I will not read a review of that album... with other bands I may do that, but with The Dream, I don't want any ideas to crawl into my mind and act as pre-judgement when I finally get ahold of a copy of the disc.... I want to hear it with open mind and clear ears (better wash them! LOL)... Then I'll write my own review and then I'll read someone else's takes on the record.... If it's so heavy as some say, I probably will be dissapointed.. But I won't allow myself to be dissapointed EVEN BEFORE I actually listen to the album.... I want to have my brain free of pre-conceptions and judge the album according to my parameters...
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Points: 865 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2007 at 15:53
I can't really take that review too seriously, and I hope none of you will either. That said, I wouldn't mind the mentioned huge Floyd and Metallica influences, as those are among my favourite bands!
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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2007 at 15:58
Originally posted by Malve87 Malve87 wrote:

I don't like the title (Would be really pissed off, if it sounded like Dragonforce or Rhapsody Dead) so let's hope they won't come out with something like "Hey listen here, we can still play METAL!!" just like they did in 2003 when "Train Of Thought" was released....

 
Opinion time...ToT was one of DTs weakest albums.  They tried to sound metal and it didn't work. Hell, I like FII much more.
 
I would be very happy with another Octavarium. That was a dynamic album and was tastefully written. It had many different elements; something I expect from a Prog band.


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Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Malve87 Malve87 wrote:

I don't like the title (Would be really pissed off, if it sounded like Dragonforce or Rhapsody Dead) so let's hope they won't come out with something like "Hey listen here, we can still play METAL!!" just like they did in 2003 when "Train Of Thought" was released....

 
Opinion time...ToT was one of DTs weakest albums.  They tried to sound metal and it didn't work. Hell, I like FII much more.
 
I would be very happy with another Octavarium. That was a dynamic album and was tastely written. It had many different elements; something I expect from a Prog band.
Yes of course, Octavarium is not their best album, anyway, simply the title track is worth the buying...
And yes, FII is better by far than ToT
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Originally posted by enteredwinter enteredwinter wrote:

If that review is accurate, then DT has done everything I was hoping they'd do (i.e. focus on the thrash and Floyd influences, don't write cheesy ballads, make the overall vibe dark and heavy without sounding forced, like in some of TOT).

Unfortunately, I doubt that the review paints a good, relatively unbiased picture. The guy is clearly a huge DT fan, perhaps even fanboy Ermm.


 
Tlossy probably wrote it !!!WinkLOL
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From Dreamtheater.net

http://dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#systematicchaos


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"Systematic Chaos" track listing

 Added on 02-21-2007
DREAM THEATER - SYSTEMATIC CHAOS
  1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1
  2. Forsaken
  3. Constant Motion
  4. The Dark Eternal Night
  5. Repentance
  6. Prophets of War
  7. The Ministry of Lost Souls
  8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2
Produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Engineered and Mixed by Paul Northfield
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Now if we could just get the song times!


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hi guys theres demo floating bout now i found it gavit it whirl...

its the full cd as instrumental is not final mix with vocals attached to it...

i like the music this itmes round there no tot here it jsut good prog metal and they r back  to tehre roots in all case here...

lots os hooks odd timeings etc i think this is better this way imho hearing music for what it is without vocals and overdubs attached to it fans wont be disappointed illl tell u this much..

the demo is out there for reviewers like me and many others from the band for us to listen to.. so dont bother using p2p u wont find it how i got it is secret cuz i review cds im good at what i do best...
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Points: 21156 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2007 at 14:10
^ LOL yeah, right.
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Points: 5308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2007 at 14:14
Seeing how you spell, you must be an amazing reviewer "doing good what you do best"! Wink
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Points: 7606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2007 at 14:19
hey guys I just heard the new dream theater CD and wow it sounds like the art bears? all the songs are 150 seconds long and filled with commie rhetoric and there's like a elbows on the piano solo and the drums are orchestral rather than ornamental

dont bother using p2p u wont find it how i got it is secret
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

hey guys I just heard the new dream theater CD and wow it sounds like the art bears? all the songs are 150 seconds long and filled with commie rhetoric and there's like a elbows on the piano solo and the drums are orchestral rather than ornamental

dont bother using p2p u wont find it how i got it is secret
 
Oh, you mean just like kayo Dot's latest? My God, that would be the day...
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Originally posted by kiligian kiligian wrote:

so dont bother using p2p u wont find it how i got it is secret cuz i review cds im good at what i do best...
 
Man, that's so obvious... tell me, what is that you do worst? ConfusedConfusedConfusedLOLLOLLOL
 
 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh, you mean just like kayo Dot's latest? My God, that would be the day...
 
Please...don't give me a reason to dislike DT. My opinion of them has been dropping. Its bad enough they copy everyone else. But copying someone like that?
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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2007 at 15:46
Originally posted by kiligian kiligian wrote:

hi guys theres demo floating bout now i found it gavit it whirl...

its the full cd as instrumental is not final mix with vocals attached to it...

i like the music this itmes round there no tot here it jsut good prog metal and they r back  to tehre roots in all case here...

lots os hooks odd timeings etc i think this is better this way imho hearing music for what it is without vocals and overdubs attached to it fans wont be disappointed illl tell u this much..

the demo is out there for reviewers like me and many others from the band for us to listen to.. so dont bother using p2p u wont find it how i got it is secret cuz i review cds im good at what i do best...

Would this be the demo that you said in your other thread "well guess what i knew it was i fake before i ttok him 20 mins to figure it out.."?

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^ lol ... when I read his post earlier today I thought "Ok, someone might really have found something instrumental which reminds of Dream Theater by the guitars and drums ... could it be LTE?"Wink
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DREAM THEATER: The new Dream Theater album Systematic Chaos has been postponed...
ROADRUNNER RECORDS regret to announce the delay of the new Dream Theater album Systematic Chaos. The album, scheduled for release on June 4th has been postponed due to errors in artwork printing. A&R man Derek Oliver commented: "We regret the postponement of the Dream Theater release due to printing errors in the artwork. The booklets received from the printing factory contained errors that did not pass our high standard quality check, so we had no other choice than to reject the artwork and get it reprinted."
The release date will now be July 23rd.

Systematic Chaos if the first album for the band to be released on Roadrunner records and is the band's ninth album, following the critically acclaimed Octavarium. The album was recorded at Avatar Studios in New York, with veteran engineer/ mixer Paul Northfield (Rush, Queensryche, Porcupine Tree). As usual, Portnoy and Petrucci chose to co-produce the project, which features seven compositions (one a 25-minute epic).
DREAM THEATER - SYSTEMATIC CHAOS

  1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.1
  2. Forsaken
  3. Constant Motion
  4. The Dark Eternal Night
  5. Repentance
  6. Prophets of War
  7. The Ministry of Lost Souls
  8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt.2
Produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy
Engineered and Mixed by Paul Northfield
Drummer Mike Portnoy was slightly less diplomatic about the error:
"Apparently they misspelled my name. It must have been a sick joke from someone at the printer's because when we received the test print everything was ok, but the final artwork showed my name as "Porntoy" and this was only discovered after 70,000 had been printed.

I personally thought it was very funny. After all the album is called 'Systematic Chaos'!

The product manager of Roadrunner was less amused tho. He said it was unacceptable and that some stores would refuse to stock it like this, so the artwork is to be reprinted.

That's politics. We will just have to budge and accept it. I am sorry for the delay but will ensure you the album will be worth the wait!"

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