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Topic: Dream Theater "Systematic Chaos" details
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Subject: Dream Theater "Systematic Chaos" details
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:19
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http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#roadrunner - http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#roadrunner not only that, they're on Roadrunner  When DREAM THEATER and ROADRUNNER RECORDS Unite!Added on 02-08-2007FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FEBRUARY 8, 2007 WHEN DREAM THEATER AND ROADRUNNER RECORDS UNITE! BAND AND LABEL JOIN FORCES WITH NEW STUDIO ALBUM PLUS WORLD TOUR TO FOLLOW ROADRUNNER RECORDS is proud to announce the signing of progressive metal pioneers Dream Theater. A new studio album, Systematic Chaos is due in June. Dream Theater will hit the road in support of the album for a world tour, including major festival appearances in Europe. Since their first studio release in 1989, this US based five-piece has notched up record and DVD sales in excess of six million and headlined to audiences of 20,000. Having undertaken seven world tours across 42 different countries, Dream Theater has established a live reputation that has swept them to arena-status around the globe. They have appeared alongside acts such as Deep Purple, Iron Maiden and Yes. Recognized by peers and public alike for their advanced musical expertise, the band (Mike Portnoy, drums; John Petrucci, guitar; John Myung, bass; James LaBrie, vocals; Jordan Rudess, keyboards) has long held the ability to combine complex arrangements with unadulterated songwriting skills, the material often underpinned by riffs as heavy as anything in the Metallica repertoire. "This album�s got all of the elements we�ve become known for," reveals Portnoy. "The focus on musicianship, the skull-crushing riffs, the big progressive epics and the heart-wrenching melodies. We�ve got one of the strongest and most devoted fan bases in the world, and they should certainly be happy with the new material. By working closely with the label we hope to turn a great many new heads too." "Dream Theater and Roadrunner Records have led parallel careers on the cutting edge of metal for many years," say A&R men, Derek Oliver & Dante Bonutto, "We�re thrilled to be working with a genuine market-leader, and when you add everything the guys bring to the table to the independent spirit and work ethic of the label, the results can only be exciting in the extreme!" Prior to teaming up with Roadrunner, Dream Theater was signed to a seven-album deal with Warner Music Group worldwide. The deal commenced with the critically acclaimed and commercially successful Images And Words (1992), a Gold-certified US release, and concluded, in equal style, with Octavarium (2005), a Top 40 Billboard outing. In August of last year the band issued Score, a live album/DVD (recorded at Radio City Music Hall in New York), which went straight to the No. 1 spot on the Billboard DVD charts, knocking Pink Floyd from the top! By the following month, the five were holed up at Avatar Studios in New York, working on the new album with veteran engineer/ mixer Paul Northfield (Rush, Queensr�che, Porcupine Tree). As usual, Portnoy and Petrucci chose to co-produce the project, which features seven compositions (one a 25-minute epic), and word on the grapevine is that the Dream Theater/Roadrunner alliance looks all set to kick off with a classic. Systematic Chaos, Dream Theater�s ninth studio release, arrives at a time when the band is casting a longer-than-ever shadow across the rock and metal landscape. Their influence is being acknowledged by an increasing number of contemporary, cutting-edge acts such as Stone Sour, Trivium, Shadows Fall, Opeth as their fan base continues to grow. Touring plans will be announced shortly. Please visit http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/ - www.roadrunnerrecords.com or www.dreamtheater.net for up to the minute information. [all info from www.dreamtheater.net] ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:22
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Thanks for the heads up!!
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:27
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I don't like the sound of that album name. =/
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:27
can't say I'm a terribly big fan of it, but we'll let the music speak for itself  -------------
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Equality 7-2521 wrote:Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:28
Sounds Ok to me......better than Snakes and Arrows anyway. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:30
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^ Snakes and Arrows had a very good reasoning behind the title, and plus it's Rush so you know.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:32
Good reasoning doesn't necessarily mean good title,and we don't know that DT doesn't have good reason for their title. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: slowfire85
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:34
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I remember Mikael from Opeth saying he thought DT was ok, and that he really didn't feel like they were prog, just stuck in the label for lack of a better comparison. If anything, I would say DT's new album will have some Opeth influence, since Opeth's last few albums have been of better quality than DT's. ------------- What is prog rock ? It is music that does progress. Progressive music takes a riff, turns it inside out, plays it upside down and the other way around, and explores its potential. K.Emerson |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:40
Me neither, but the music is the most important though. I hope it will be better than Octavarium. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:42
If they give me a good reason I'll retract my statement  ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:43
No need..as I said a good reason doesn't equate to a good title. What I mean is, if they have a good reason why would that make you change your mind and like the title? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:55
Sounds like a Dragonforce album title! 
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 18:57
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Their influence is being acknowledged by an increasing number of contemporary, cutting-edge acts such as Stone Sour, Trivium
But seriously, looking forward to the album -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:04
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I think they should change the title to: Dream Theater IX or, perhaps the best possible choice: V  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:10
The title sounds fine to me. Very exciting, thanks for the news Josh
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:21
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There are 10 letters in "systematic," but this is DT's ninth... They're not using that weird pattern...
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:22
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I have a limited number of DT albums one live album.
a few studio albums. This must be enthralling.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:23
Snakes & Arrows by itself sounds like some Viking Metal album glorifying how cool and deadly snakes are, and arrows into the mix to increase the deadliness. When you find out what the title really means, and how it relates to the album it has a different conotation is then a good title. I'm not judging title merely by how the words sound together. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 19:59
I was going to say, "let the Bashing begin" but it appears that was unnecessary. And let's throw some Rush bashing in also. Two for the price of one. Just what we need.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:15
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Great news! I'll definitely be looking forward for this release. Thanks for the info heyisthatguy . ------------- 
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:16
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 21:06
Saying I don't like the name of the album isn't bashing. I believe bashing would be like, the only thing that sucks more than that name is the music. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: xjester
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 21:19
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Lets also not forget that Opeth are signed to Roadrunner. Does anyone else smell the potential tour of the summer? |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:47
Good call. Probably won't happen in the summer, though, because Mikael will most likely be finishing up the recording of Opeth's 9th around then. Also, there's some overlap in the fan bases, but a lot of difference too, I think. Then again, DT once toured with Megadeth. All we need is Pain of Salvation and Tool to sign to Roadrunner, and they can market themselves as having signed "The Four Horsemen of the Prog-Metal Apocalypse". ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 00:59
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WTF? (what the f**k in colloquial english)
Two things:
1. Roadrunner... I'll always remember Roadrunner fondly because the first metal record I onwned (Sepultura's Chaos AD) was Roadrunner.... Today that label is much broader and with more variety (it was mostly an extreme label like Earache or Nuclear Blast - Relapse)... Today we have Opeth... But I don't like much Dream Theater to be there.... it's still a too "metallic" label... not an extreme label anymore but I just hope DT don't release another "heavy" album like TOT (which I like but not 100%) or the atrocious "The Glass Prison" song...
2. "Systematic Chaos".... atrocious title.... it kind of gets me fearful about what I just said in 1. .... But it's DT, so I shouldn't be worried. From their 8 albums and 1 EP (ACOS), I like 7and a half of the albums and the first half of the EP. So it should be OK.
IT WILL BE OK.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 01:06
Update: I'm even more afraid when the label's website has SLIPKNOT as the biggest news in its portal... that band is atrocious....please.... please.... I should take a Xanax or another anxiolitic..... I'm deeply worried... 
But then, again, is DT, so shut the f**k up T....
 EDIT: Oh my God... Nickelback.... so long for the "extreme metal" accusation....
Bring it on my five maestros.... -------------
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 01:20
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I do like the new Album Title, I think, this is gonna be huge. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bupie
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:03
I like the title too. It reminds me of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (chaos ~ turbulence) that is not so turbulent but remains my favorite album from the band (first CD included  ) along with I&W.
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Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:16
| "Six Degrees... OF INNER TURBULENCE!!!" was a rather stupid title as well, but that's my favorite DT album. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:19
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Oh boy.
Hopefully the 'systematic' part does not amount to used-up song structures, and the 'chaos' part to a few random note solos. I still like them quite a lot, but I expect better stuff from them, and the clicheed title and Roadrunner don't promise any better stuff, IMVHO. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:21
I do ... I guess (I hope) that the new album will be a successfull combination of Train of Thought and Octavarium. In any case it should be heavy!  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:36
What the hell is DT doing in Roadrunner anyway ? 
Looks like it would be another ToT, or probably harder... ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:43
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I hate oxymoronic titles and I hated the way that press release was written. H8
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 07:00
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^ "oxymoronic" ... that would be a nice title! Would be more suitable for a Punk band though.
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Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 08:28
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What else is there to do but hope that this album wont suck...?
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 09:46
I guess they couldn't think of something better since Close to the Edge and Dark Side of the Moon were taken. Get a Life. Who cares about the title? Do you want a good album with a title that treads on your delicate sensibilities or the greatest title ever and an album that sucks? ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 09:52
Hmmm.... for some reason, that album title made me think of Meshuggah  I mean... I don't mind Dream Theater being a bit heavy, but, I don't want them that heavy oh well, let's just hope for the album to release soon ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 09:59
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Systematic Chaos reminds me of Mr. Bungle or Captain Beefheart. Something like that. BUT with that said hopefully we'll here some avan-garde stuff from DT. Just kidding. Hopefully it will be a good album. Them and tool seem to be the only progressive metal bands ive really liked much. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 10:10
| Systematic Chaos is not a bad title, but I hope that the music will be a lot better. Preferably more interesting than some tracks on their latest 2 albums. |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 10:15
Please Christ, no. that would be disastrous. Those two bands have next to nothing in common. However, I also believe Porcupine Tree signed to RR recently, so an Opeth/PT tour would be amazing. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 10:44
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I hope it's better than the last album. Let's see if they are going to come to South Florida again. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 12:36
I can't bloody wait for that one!  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: norbert88
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 13:03
Another Prog Fan who plays MTG! That makes 4 of us! norbert88 |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 13:13
Make it 5. Well, I don't actually "play" much anymore (the online stuff is too expensive, and none of my friends play it anymore, but I still collect the cards). It's the dorkiest hobby imaginable, but the game is unbelievably well-designed, and collecting is still fun. Sorry to add to the off-topic posting.  -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 13:32
Exactly, the same band I was thinking about when I saw that name.... It's just that Messhugah is really a systematic chaos.... a machine that plays noise in such a concentrated, exact way that makes brutality something worth listening to....DT never could play like that.... Imagine MAster Labrie singing to NO melody.... he would be screwed! Imagine him having to scream fot he whole record... man! that would suck. And I'm LABrie's number 1 defender, but not when it comes to gutural vocals...
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 14:16
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good information, and I hope this new album to be better than the last album of Dream, Octavarium ------------- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/sydbarrettg.jpg/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 14:20
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I'm going to agree on Johnobvious' opinion about the title: irrelevant, until further information on content (say song/track names). For instance, Train of Thought would yield a pretty progressive or somewhat intelligent label to the album, as a title...but now that we know what lies whithin, it's our very meaning of "heavy", "metal", "shred" and etc. What concerns me more is the album's structure, resembling too much Octavarium's attempt to reproduce Dream Theater's formula, in sliding soft melodies, large epics and straight-forward leanings in their metal influence. Roadrunner will sound a dubious label to promote them, with the heavier tendencies their bands mark, but it also doesn't seem "narrow-minded" - I mean, there's Opeth, right? - and there is something of an "independent spirit" mentioned. It's got all the elements that'll instigate a success, but unfortunately the same goes for the opposite, so basicly the only thing remotely significant in this post is joining Mr. Sanchez, hoping the album won't suck. -------------  |
Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 14:22
| Please, God, let it not suck! |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 14:43
I'm just hoping they utilize the orchestra again. As for the title be thankful they didn't name it Portnoy's Complaint.  ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 17:43
How low of you. Talk about judging a book by its cover  ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 17:46
Actually he's only judging the cover. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:17
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The 25 minute epic sounds delicious! Can't wait for the album. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 20:18
Very true. I don't believe anybody ever said "this album is going to suck because of the name"... they simply gave their opinions on the name, which is really the only thing we know about the album so far and thus the only thing that people can even give their opinions on. It's kind of odd to see people being offended by it, really, though certainly not unexpected. As for the album, I'm looking forward to it. Another 25 minute epic? Sounds like it will, at the very least, be interesting! And to the people who are worried about them being on Roadrunner: this is Dream Theater, they were already on a label that tried to pressure them into making a certain type of music and it resulted in arguably their weakest album (Falling to Infinity) and almost caused the breakup of the band. They've made it painfully obvious throughout their career that they won't let that kind of thing happen again, so I don't think there's anything to worry about here. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 21:40
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Fine then, be analytical Ty1020
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 22:24
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Falling into Infinity is better than Octavarium and possibly Train of Thought, IMO. I don't like it when Portnoy uses words like skull-bashing, or chrunching or whatever to describe their riffs. Slipknot has skull-bashing riffs too, so I hear....  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 00:15
At last somebody agrees with me. A good album with one of DT's best tracks ever (Lines in the sand) but a weak, almost awful song (take away my pain) and the bad just let me breathe. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 04:07
^ don't forget Anna Lee (bad) and Trial of Tears (awesome).
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 08:46
| I would agree Falling Into Infinity is a far better effort than Octavarium was at a more straightforward style. The only song I find to be flat out bad is that awful Desmond Child thing 'You Not Me', though perhaps there are a few too many ballads. Some work well for me though, especially 'Hollow Years'. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 09:18
Fallin Into Infinity is a good album with a few really bad songs (though I like Just Let Me Breath) I'm quietly optomistic, for the moment (later I'll be loudly optomistic ), that this will be a very good album.------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 11:03
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looking forward to that 25 minute epic. also, is the continuation of the AA series continuing with this album? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Yito
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 11:11
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All the heavy songs of Dream Theater have a good and intelligent arrangements, with fantastic vocals and different moods like Endless Sacrifice, In The Name Of God, Beyond This Life, Fatal Tragedy, The Mirror,Panic Attack and a big e.t.c. Heavy or not, i only expect good music in the new album. By The Way: Systematic Chaos ------------- Psalm 96 1 Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 12:14
Funny, but we haven't heard a single note and already the title and record label are under fire. I'm really looking forward to this. E ------------- 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 12:32
I wouldn't say it's bashing, either; but, I would chalk this up to nit picking. I guess I'm a visual person, so I want to see what the package design is going to be. The same goes for the new Rush disc. Snakes And Arrows may sound a bit askew on the surface, but let's see what Mr. Syme puts together. I spoke with him on Thursday about a project that he may be working on of ours and he said that everything is coming around nicely. He sounded very proud of it. E -------------
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Posted By: Guitar God
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 13:04
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"Falling Into Infinity" is one of the best DT efforts. And "Lines In The Sand" is one of their best songs.
Thanks for information, I'm really looking forward to hearing the "Systematic Chaos". I noticed Stone Sour and other apalling stuff in the first article dedicated to DT's new album, but I hope DT will not fall down and play such music as Stone Sour do. What about the title... quite scary... smells of Nu-Metal-Hardcore-Modern-sh*t stuff... But "Thain Of Thought" was a very intelligent title, even art-rockish title, although ToT is DT's heaviest album... so... I don't care of the new album title. ------------- In Prog We Trust |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 13:39
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To those of you that seem to think that this album will likely be Dt's heaviest, or very heavy- If you guys had done some research you'd know that Mike Portnoy himself said on Eddy Trunk's radio show that the album "has its aggressive moments" and has "lots of ups and downs" (when speaking about album mood). Judging by MP's comments, I do not in any way think this will be as heavy as Train of Thought. I'm guessing it may be as heavy or lighter than Octavarium. -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 14:19
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Let's analyze The Dream's history for a moment:
WDADU : let's not count this as it's the first and atrocious Dominici almost ruins it (the music is good so he didn't).
IAW: Ultra-prog metal, it's heavy but with a lot of melody, lots of mellow passages.
A: Less prog, less melodic, heavier.
FII: As prog as A, less heavy, softer, more melodic.
SFAM: Again Ultra-prog, heavy but with mopre enphasis put to the melody.
6DOIT: First cd - heavier, less melodic, one atrocious song (Glass Prison-couldn't lose the oportunity to say it
). Second cd - ultra-prog, melody and heaviness combined.
TOT - A sort of return to A but even heavier. Not as prog, though. Enphasis on melody: not strong.
O: More melodic, softer but still heavy. Not as prog but proggier that TOT.
According to these awful and rushed research, we find that the time has come for another "pure-prog-metal" in the veins of IAW, SFAM or the second cd of 6DOIT. Of course, when a band starts doing things predictably, it's no longer a good band. But DT has never done that. It's not that all the heavier albums sound the same or the more melodic do so. If you compare FII with O, both are a little more straightforward and melodic but couldn't be more different; the same can be said about TOT and Awake, which have not much in common except the enphasis on heavier riffs (actually, TOT is MUCH heavier than A, which is MUCH proggier). IAW and SFAM are both the masterpieces of the lot but don't sound the same.
What I mean is, the group has a tendency to explore different areas in each album, and never to repeat the "general mood" in two consecutive albums. So I would discard another melodic, straight forward album like O, but I also doubt we'll get a heavy-oriented effort like TOT. I think time has come for the third prog-masterpiece.
Unless Portnoy and Co. get angry like Daniel and start going the nu-metal, mtv-oriented way...
Yeah, right. My fellows will never do that.
Now I just hope they don't ever meet Nickelback in the label meetings... (
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Posted By: trauma0
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 14:30
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CAN'T WAIT!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trauma0/?chartstyle=itunesrecent"> 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 14:44
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i have a good feeling about this one personally ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Guillermizzimo
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 14:48
Me neither!!!!! I loved Octavarium (to me it's probably the most balanced album they've made) and hearing there's gonna be a new 20+ minutes epic, well.... How long til the release??? How loooong?? ------------- You can serve the Flower King. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 15:56
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I love DT epics. I think this will be a great disc, to be honest.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 16:01
I'm taking tranquilizers on a daily basis, I may have to be taken to a facility, my nerves are on wreck status, I'm hitting my head against the walls, may have to sleep in a cushioned room.... f**king world, three more months??? How come they don't think on me? b*****ds!  -------------
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 16:21
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Do you honestly think that Awake is just as Proggy as FII, The T? I think Awake is just as proggy as I&W, but at that point they lost their slight hair-band influence that was in the background of Images & Words. Plus I'm not so sure that SFAM is more prog than Awake. More technical solos does not equal more proggyness in my opinion. I think the reason I dont think SFAM is their best album is because of the overly- long technical solos in the middle of the songs. -------------
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 16:23
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I think Awake is a more prog album than I & W as well. I much prefer Awake- it has a better production which to me sounds less sterile than I & W does to me, especially Petrucci's drum sound which I hated on I & W.
SFAM is their masterwork for me and would be considered the most prog due to the concept too, I guess.
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 17:57
um..... Petrucci is the guitarist, Portnoy is the Drummer. I'm not sure if you've looked at all the polls and everything about Petrucci thinking he is the drummer or if its just a typo, but I thought I might let you know if it isn't a typo. -------------
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 17:58
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"Portnoy" isn't THAT fram from "Petrucci", to be fair :) ------------- 
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Posted By: Elovec
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 18:07
| It's a pretty cool news :-) I'm waiting for this release impatiently. |
Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 18:40
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I like Dream Theater they (as with most people) got me into Prog-metal with alil help from Opeth but they have offically sold out now, but then it wasn't going to be long before Roadrunner picked up another prog-metal band if you see they are trying to get a foothol in teh power metal market via Dragonforce now they are trying to get a foothold in the prog-market via DT.
Systematic chaos sounds ok but I agree with the otehr guy that sounds like a dragonforce record but may I add the name is a dragonforce album, listen to them they are basically systematic chaos. Kinda like Sikth but second rate. ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 19:05
So your saying because DT have signed with Roadrunner that means they have sold out, I gues Porcupine Tree have sold out as well as their new album is being released in Europ by Roadrunner as well. Bloody rubish! ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: martinn
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 19:23
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DT sucks! BTW I don't really mean it, I like DT, but this thread was just too civilized ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 20:36
Maybe he's right. Maybe they've been playing around with us from long ago and Portnoy REALLY is Petrucci and vice-versa..
About the comment, of course I meant what I said (what would be the point in writing things I don't mean?
). I'll commit a crime against humanity and try to make a "progressiveness table" of DT albums: (later on I authorize you to seek me and burn me at the stake)1. I&W
2. SFAM
3. 6DOIT (although I hate The Glass Prison
, but the album is very "prog")4. WDADU (not about quality but about "progness"... this one started all)
5. A
6. TOT
7. O
8. FII
Now, to prove "progressiveness" isn't everything for me, let me do the same according to what i think are the best albums.
1. SFAM
2. I&W
3. A
4. FII ("A Change of Seasons" should be here... sadly, it's not an album, and the second half with the covers sucks)
5. O
6. TOT
7. 6DOIT (ONLY for the title track... if not it would be LAST)
8. WDADU (ONLY because of Dominici... if not, would've been above 6DOIT)
Don't know what was that all about but when I did my analysis, you can see, for me, "proggier" is not always the same as "better".
Let's just hope DT's next is both proggier and better than O (which is great anyway).
Actually, if a miracle would occur and the next album would surpass even SFAM, I couldn't be happier.
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 11:17
most likely, it is! looking very forward to it!(I'm one of the few(?) people that actually seem to enjoy TGP) ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 11:19
Man, Portnoy should just let it go. 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 13:45
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 13:46
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I don't like the AA songs. They should go away.
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 14:02
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The AA songs are bloody great you n00b what step is Portnoy on, btw.. lyricwise, I mean ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 14:05
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Systematic Chaos should be good (I like the title). I'm sure Dream Theater will continue to put out good albums. I really enjoyed Octavarium, and Train of Thought was also good (despite how long it took me to like it). The 25-minute epic should be great! By the way, I think The Glass Prison is an awesome song. That song got me into liking Dream Theater. DT helped me discover Porcupine Tree, and then got me into progressive rock. So yes, I really like The Glass Prison! |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 14:14
It's just me not liking the title. I'll wait until I hear it to comment on the music. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 14:56
I agree completely. Bashing would be "the title sucks but the music sucks more" , or even worse, without hearing it, "the title sucks but I'm sure the music will be a disaster". But if we stay only with the first part, "the title sucks", I don't see any problem. And you know what? For me, the title sucks. -------------
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 18:44
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If you are so shallow as worry about the album title, why should I take your views on anything else seriously. What exactly is wrong with the title? If you could come up with a name for a Dream Theater album, what would it be? I am not a fanboy and I am not defending DT. It just boggles my mind some of the things that people in this world take seriously or dismiss out of hand with no forethought. You are bashing. These guys don't take naming an album lightly. They want to move units. But you are indicting them as being failures in the creative process of naming an album. They thought of a name, you think the name sucks. So their ability to name an album sucks, so they must suck. A+B=C. Both of you could obviously do much better and should be recruited as the sixth member of the band in the "Album Naming Department." Maybe you could play tambourines or triangle as well. They obviously need the help. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 20:54
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^ No that's just you assuming that I've drawn those conclusions. I'm just saying I don't like the title. It sounds very stereotypical of a technical metal band to me. I don't see how worrying about an album title is shallow. The title is a sort of important aspect of the album. If they wish to recruit me for tambourine/album namer I will gladly accept their offer. One more time let me clarify some terms here: I don't like it < Differing tastes It sucks < Bashing ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Xeroth
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 22:33
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I love Opeth, but the Trivium part is what scares me. And
Portnoy's continuation shouldn't drop, I loved the other songs.
I'm excited, scared, but I've loved all of DT's albums and no matter
what they've done they've never disapionted me. Systematic Chaos
is kind of a stereotypical title I'd have to agree, but so is Awake,
and that's one of their best albums.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 22:56
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They thought of a name, you think the name sucks. Yes I do. So their ability to name an album sucks, so they must suck. A+B=C. No, no, no. There's no connection whatsoever between the ability to name things and the ability to create good musicPosted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 10:17
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Do I have to like whatever the world throws at me? No you don't. But it would be nice if you got some perspective. The world is in the crapper on so many levels that I would hope that the name of an album would be far down the list of things that got you all riled up. If you have a beef with the music after investing your money, then let the world know. But this is all a little childish. I've said my peace and am done with this thread. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: Baza
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 12:10
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I'don't believe that these old geezers (the youngest of them will turn 40 this year) can make a masterpiece.
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Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 16:10
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Being released by Roadrunner dosen't always mean being signed to them, Psychtoic Waltz never had a real proper record label yet there albums were released on a big label.
Im just abit disapointed with DT, I thought they would have gone to somewhere abit more, well civilised. I love some of the bands on Roadrunner but I just can't see them fitting into the same bill as Cradle of Filth, Trivium, Slipknot, Dragonforce etc, the only band they would fit in with are Opeth and even then Opeth are advertised by RR as a death metal band.
Prog/Progressive/Prog-metal is still a dirty word in the wider musical world especially at places like Roadrunner, it just doesn't feel right and something will (i fear) will go wrong. ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 18:39
That's pretty immature, judging a band by the age of its members, don't you think? By the way people, the album was written BEFORE they signed with Roadrunner, so I don't think the heaviness of the label with have anything to do with the album. Plus DT are known not to take influence from labels after Falling into Infinity. I'm sure the band will do whatever they want because their albums are self-produced and would never get themselves into a Record Company situation that forced them into taking a particular musical path. -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 01:12
It's strange too think they're all that old now. I'm too young to be used to seeing bands grow old. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Baza
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 05:05
Well, usually the artists peak at their (early) 20's, but there are exceptions.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 08:40
This is prog were talking about, I dont know of many bands that are in their 20's here. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 08:52
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^ most classic prog bands released their best albums when their members were in their 20s - I guess that's what he means.
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