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    Posted: August 19 2004 at 15:45

YES WE HAVE THE BEST THE BEST PROG BANDS KING CRIMSON, PINK FLOYD, GENESIS, VDGG, CAMEL, JETHRO TULL, YES, ELP, MAYBE? LED ZEP, ALSO MAYBE? BLACK SABBATH, HAWKWIND, MARILLION, MANFRED MANN'S EARTHBAND, URIAH HEEP, BARCLEY JAMES HARVEST, ARTHUR BROWN, THE NICE, STRAWBS AND MANY MORE ANYONE AGREE? BUT WE WELSH HAVE MAN AND BUDGIE AS OUR PROG ROCK GROUPS 100% WELSH. BUT THE ABOVE BANDS ARE ENGLISH DAMMITT

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 15:58

Prog is a distinctly English affair old chap Allowing for Rush who are of course Canadian.

However, the Welsh do have the best indie rock bands IMO, The Manics, Catatonia (had) The Stereophonics, Super furry animals. I think that counts for something.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:25
You'll get no argument here Progman. As I'm English with a big slice of Taff (Surname and Y chromosome) I'll have to agree with both of you, but please let's not forget the likes of Gong. AussieAngloFrenchy types have a place in progland too. Any more multi-nationals you can think of?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:28
Where are all the Kansas fans? I expect a transatlantic backlash some time soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:29
Italy a close second
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:33

Most of my favorite bands come from England. But generally speaking, almost anything regarding Europe is considered excellent prog. Take a look at the Scandinavian prog scene for instance. Italy, Germany and France are/were precursors as well.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:38

Don't forget my fellow Dutchmen: Earth and Fire (first 4 albums), Finch, Supersister, Focus, Kayak (first 3 albums), some other names...

Kansas was an obvious threat against the British domination of course.

What about Mahavishnu Orchestra? US-based, but the first line-up was a multi-cultural affair. Ok, they're more jazz/fusion than classic prog, but great nonetheless.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:47
Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Kansas was an obvious threat against the British domination of course.

IN THEIR DREAMS!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:52
Originally posted by emdiar emdiar wrote:

Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Kansas was an obvious threat against the British domination of course.

IN THEIR DREAMS!!!!!!!!

Their dreams were strong...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:53
GERMAN PROG IS THE BEST
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:53
Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Originally posted by emdiar emdiar wrote:

Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Kansas was an obvious threat against the British domination of course.

IN THEIR DREAMS!!!!!!!!

Their dreams were strong...

...But their albums were not. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 16:57

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

GERMAN PROG IS THE BEST

Germans Know a thing or two about electric synth music (TD, Klause Schulze, Ashra etc.) but some of their prog is not exactly top rate (The Eloy.)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 17:01
Someone might be expecting me to protest, but I can't. The US doesn't really have much of a showing in the history of prog. Kansas (along with just a couple of my favorite recent bands) was our best shot and I can't honestly put them up with King Crimson, Yes, Jethro Tull, Genesis, ELP, Gentle Giant, Caravan, etc etc....I think a lot of this influence comes from a long cultural, literary, and musical tradition, and the US just doesn't have much of a history of its own before the 1500s. I have heard the opinion that Americans are inordinately fascinated with anything old- given the chosen sounds and subject matter of a lot of prog, that might account for the some of the popularity of prog on these shores. I just hope you crazy foreigners appreciate what you've got
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 17:05
You are right Emdiar (up to a certain point)... but what do you think of german prog bands as Nektar, Gila, Grobschnitt, Novalis...their albums are certainly badly distributed compared to English prog, but it dosen't mean that because they don't sell that they are not classics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 17:15
No country is the best, you have good prog bands in every country.
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 19:01

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

No country is the best, you have good prog bands in every country.

 

Thank you....

 

Remember to replace "BEST" with "FAVORITE."



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 23:22

Progman wrote:

Quote YES WE HAVE THE BEST THE BEST PROG BANDS KING CRIMSON, PINK FLOYD, GENESIS, VDGG, CAMEL, JETHRO TULL, YES, ELP, MAYBE? LED ZEP, ALSO MAYBE? BLACK SABBATH, HAWKWIND, MARILLION, MANFRED MANN'S EARTHBAND, URIAH HEEP, BARCLEY JAMES HARVEST, ARTHUR BROWN, THE NICE, STRAWBS AND MANY MORE ANYONE AGREE? BUT WE WELSH HAVE MAN AND BUDGIE AS OUR PROG ROCK GROUPS 100% WELSH. BUT THE ABOVE BANDS ARE ENGLISH DAMMITT

In first place Progman, PLEASE DON'T WRITE IN HIGH CASE, IT'S ANNOYING.

Back to the subject:

Love British prog, and Genesis is my favorite band, but I dopn't Believe Brits have the exclusive for Prog' Rock.

USA: Kansas, Pavlov's Dog, Glass Hammer, Echolyn}

Germany: Triumvirat

Italy: PFM, Le Orme, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso.

Netherlands. Focus

Sweden: Anglagard, Par Lindh, Anekdoten

Israel: Trespass, Sympopzium, etc

Perú: Frágil, Traffic Sound Laghonia.

Probably you don't know about this bands and 100 more, that's why you affirm that.

Iván

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 04:55
My favourite band at the moment are Magenta and they come from Wales! Also in the seventies there was the Anglo-Welsh band Lone Star who made 2 very fine albums in a prog metal vein.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 05:04
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Prog is a distinctly English affair old chap Allowing for Rush who are of course Canadian.

 

Only if you take Ed Macan's thesis too seriously. Don't ignore the Californian's Touch. And one US academic who have you also consider United States Of America. And the Mothers........................ etc etc

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 07:31

Its been pointed out by many in this discussion, that there are good prog acts from countries other than the UK. Good they may be, but I think its fair to say we had the most successful bands. Successful because they were the best?? Maybe, maybe not. Thats all down to taste and opinion. What makes Engalnd the home of prog, IMO, is that this is where it originated.

Can anyone tell me what progressive music was being made in the US or elsewhere when the Floyd, Moody Blues, The Nice, etc were starting out??

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