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Easy Livin
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Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 11:35 |
I have spoken to Tarcisio private, and he sincerely regrets the way his original post and heading was phrased. I believe he will post here shortly. on that basis.
I think this can be seen as an isolated error of judgement.
I am conscious that we should never seek to stifle healthy debate, and would emphasise here that the only issue is the way the thread was slanted, not in the member saying that in his view the decisions were wrong.
I'll leave the thread open to allow TM to post.
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Philéas
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 14 2006
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 11:42 |
Seriously, what on Earth is the point of this thread?
Ok, you think a band is Prog and some other people do not. I don't see
the problem. Opinions will always differ - live with it. This is only a
website, it doesn't matter whether it lists a certain band as Prog or not, you are still free to view the band as Prog in real life regardless of what this particular set of 0's and 1's says, no need to get rude.
Also, I don't think the band themselves care a bit about what this site
does or doesn't label them as, so why should you? I suggest spending
your time doing something more useful than behaving silly on the
internet.
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Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2006
Location: Brazil
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Points: 198
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 11:53 |
I thank everyone who wrote me and to the site for the opportunity to bring this subject on.
I´d like to apologise profusely for the harsh and wrong words and
claims and if anyone felt insulted, I ask forgiveness. I owe
this site a lot and never wanted to bring any trouble to it or anyone involved. I keep my
critics to the new policies. I will not bring any more polemics to this
forum or this site in the future.
Thanks for the attention
Respectfully
Tarcísio B. Moura
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bhikkhu
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Joined: April 06 2006
Location: A² Michigan
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 12:00 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
I am stunned by this.What a petty,juvenile reaction.In the Edenbridge thread we explained to you why they were rejected,and you were very gracious and civil with your responses.Now you hit us with this?
Mike can speak for himself but I personally am pretty mad.Not offended....but MAD.That you call the integrity of not only the PMT but the specialist teams in general into question is way out of line.
Quite frankly,this is a case of you not getting your way and throwing a fit,and I am sick of this kind of behavior.Not only from you but from quite a few other people here.We work extremely hard here(in our FREE TIME),and some people perform more than one duty.
Most of the time the work the PMT does is ignored.The only time we are even noticed is when someone has a complaint with a band we added,or one we didn't add.
No one EVER makes a thread or sends us a message congratulating us on a job well done.I don't need a pat on the back but people like you and the other haters here are pretty de-motivating. |
TheProgtologist wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
Interesting that you think so, Tarcisio, but that's nothing more than an unfounded feeling. I have exactly the opposite feeling: Too much metal is accepted in here which does not really deserve the name "prog". Now who of us is right?Having said that: I am still waiting for Echo City (featuring Guy Evans of Van der Graaf Generator; one of the most avantgarde bands there are) to be added, or Cosmic Explosion (a krautrock all-star band). It seems though that both the Experimental and the Krautrock team have to do overtime. The albums of Cosmic Explosion are no longer available, by the way; they were limited pressings of a few thousand only. Both Echo City and Cosmic Explosion were suggested at least half a year ago. |
I am tired of the PMT getting this kind of flack for working TOO HARD.
I will not be made to feel guilty or get critisized because we consistently do our job. |
I hear you Jody. You guys work very hard, and do not have an open door policy on metal bands. This case proves it. I know you are constantly pressured for additions, and you do your best to evaluate the candidates. The PM Team's integrity should not be in question. So, clappies to the Metal Men.
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akin
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Joined: February 06 2004
Location: Brazil
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 12:04 |
Reading this thread makes me realize that the site is going wrong way.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Sweden
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 12:12 |
^ you think posts like this one improve things? Please be more specific.
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johnobvious
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Joined: May 11 2006
Location: Nebraska
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Points: 1367
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 12:15 |
In the big scheme of things, who cares if they get added? Life goes on. I am pretty sad at all of this.  The site gets bigger every day and has to be getting to the point of being unwieldy. How the people behind the scenes keep it going while bringing new bands and features online is underappreciated by most of the regular users. So the the people who keep it running and work hard on additions, hats off. 
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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akin
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 06 2004
Location: Brazil
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 12:21 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ you think posts like this one improve things? Please be more specific.
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Well, sometimes it improves, when the person that did something in a bad way thinks about what he has done.
Anyway it is not the case with you, Mike, but there are people abusing
in offensive contents without a good reason. And people who are not
newbies.
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Tony R
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Joined: July 16 2004
Location: UK
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 12:39 |
For myself, I know that I come at these things all guns blazing but one of the things I value more than anything else is my integrity. If someone directly or indirectly doubts my integrity (and it is inextricably linked to the reputation of the site, the conduct of its Admins and Collabs) then I will challenge them about it.
I have no problem whatsoever with anyone expressing an opinion, or their disappointment with the direction of the site, policy or band admissions failures but let's not suggest that there is something more sinister going on,please.That's just plain rude.
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 13:35 |
Tarcisio Moura wrote:
I thank everyone who wrote me and to the site for the opportunity to bring this subject on.
I´d like to apologise profusely for the harsh and wrong words and claims and if anyone felt insulted, I ask forgiveness. I owe this site a lot and never wanted to bring any trouble to it or anyone involved. I keep my critics to the new policies. I will not bring any more polemics to this forum or this site in the future.
Thanks for the attention
Respectfully
Tarcísio B. Moura
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Many thanks Tarcísio, I'll close this thread now.
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