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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29372 |
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GENESIS And Then There Were Three...
Review by Larry Lanberg @ 9:47:03 PM EST, 8/16/2004 ![]() ![]() Review by Larry Lanberg @ 10:26:44 PM EST, 8/16/2004 ![]() Sacrilege!! Only 3 stars for Foxtrot and 5 stars for ATTWT! I like both these reviews as Larry explains his views intellegently and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that production quality is important (although I gave Foxtrot 5 stars and ATTWT 4 stars when I reviewed them)
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James Lee ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
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my only quibble is that Steve Miller's production was actually pretty muddy right up to at least "Fly Like an Eagle" (1976). "Rock Love" is especially grungy, which is too bad because it was his last really interesting album. I'm off to lick daisies and drink some tea now! |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Ah but who remembers Eliott's reviews of Renaissance albums? I suspect he thought they were too folksy and poppy, but why didn't he say so? (I suspect he fancied Annie Haslam really! RENAISSANCE Ashes Are Burning RENAISSANCE Turn Of The Cards
Review by Eliott Minkovitch @ 10:58:34 AM EST, 6/8/2004 ![]() RENAISSANCE Prologue
Review by Eliott Minkovitch @ 10:52:24 AM EST, 6/8/2004 ![]() |
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James Lee ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
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I gotta hand it to old eliott- three reviews in 6 minutes is pretty impressive. Sometimes it takes me that long just to...
...finish a sentence. |
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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I see Andrea Salvador is back with some more classics! I just had to post these in here for posterity - my aching sides!! (To be utterly fair, I blame Babelfish...)
STRAWBS - From the Witchwood
ANGRA - Lisbon (single) JETHRO TULL - 20 Years Of Jethro Tull (USA release)
Review by andrea salvador @ 11:11:03 AM EST, 8/18/2004 ![]() URIAH HEEP - Live in Moscow Review by andrea salvador @ 1:01:55 PM EST, 8/17/2004 ![]() URIAH HEEP - Uriah Heep - Live Review by andrea salvador @ 12:50:30 PM EST, 8/17/2004 ![]() ![]() |
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James Lee ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
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"the prize for the truest and sincere contamination of the English Folk" andrea + babelfish = poetic genius! "To good conoisseur... Litle words."
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James Lee ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
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ASIA - Axioms
Review by Redhead @ 3:32:37 PM EST, 8/18/2004 ![]() Here we have vague abuse (I think- what do you say, Bob?), no sense that they have actually heard the album (or the two new tracks Bob mentioned specifically), and a small warning about compilations. I don't think anybody needs to be told what greatest hits albums are all about. However, the final sentence is very important- apparently the pog craze is returning, which is good news for all of you who have boxes of the things stashed away next to your Pokemon and Episode One collectibles
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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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Hahaha, I remember pogs! |
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The Prognaut ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2004 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 1492 |
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If he/she only knew what's been going around here...
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break the circle
reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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I honestly feel sad for Andrea, she really wants to do good reviews,and translating this puzzles to spanish, I believe she does a decent job. But if Altavista translator doesn't translate syntax well, much less will translate ideas. Iván
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emdiar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 890 |
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Excuse me people, but how dare you sit there and take the piss out of Andrea? You bunch of f**king hypocrites! How you all made me squirm for posting the following; "Your review, much like your command of English, is very poor" I was attacked from all sides and was actually accused of xenophobia (talk about an over-reaction). I am not impressed! Edited by emdiar |
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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Nooooo! These are reviews that stand out, not a pure Mickey-take! I totally realise that Babelfish is to blame for the results that we're having a bit of a giggle about, but you can plainly see that Andrea has tried to give considered and lyrical (if somewhat short) reviews. But you're right, Em. |
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James Lee ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
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I'll take it a step further- the last andrea review I read sounded like poetry to me; I could read a hundred reviews and not come away with anything but information (if that much). When I read his/ hers, I often come away thinking about the abstract intricacies of language structure and the imagery behind word choice. This whole thread is about reviews that make an impression beyond what they say about the band and the album; while some may offer little but humor at the writer's expense, most are either personally expressive or intriguingly surreal. I can say all I want about an album, or the history of the band, or how it relates to music in general, but I would never think to write "many compilations play the paper of the stranger success". Between andrea and the translation code we are given a phrase that is hauntingly evocative- a collaboration between man and machine to produce something greater than either alone could have done. But the thing about the pogs was pure humor Edited by James Lee |
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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I find that you guys just want to read good things about the bands you really like. There are bands that I love but when they put out what I call a dud it deserves a bad review.for example I love the Hungarian band Omega but in the 1980`s they went, well, pop, I gave Omega 11 a bomb .See some of my other reviews. Also check out my wife`s review on Gentle Giant Octopus. If someone doesn`t like Dark Side ( I myself love it, great album to have sex to ) then he /she is entitled to voice their particular opinion and it is up to the reader of the review to decide for themselves by comparing other reviwes to that particular review. Like Clint Eastwood said in a Dirty Harry film opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one. This to me is even a dumber thread than the Mariah thread.
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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That Clint Eastwood quote is very apt - so I think that reviews whether positive or negative should at least; 1) Conform to site rules and contain at least 50 words. 2) Express some truths beyond the reviewer's opinion. 3) Be carefully thought out, interesting and humourous (optional, but I like reviews that fit this category!).
To just cast aside an album with one scathing sentence is not to review it, IMHO. Opinions are an essential part of reviews - but if you're going to administer some slap down, I think a few considered facts would be polite and a way to "sugar the pill" - after all, this is a prog site with many prog fans of many prog bands, so someone is going to complain about their favourite album getting a roasting - and why stir it up unless it's clearly for fun or to make a valid point - in which case the review should attempt to make that clear. I definitely do not think that all reviewers should shower golden praise on all that is prog - except for "Script..." Edited by Certif1ed |
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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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We're fine with reading bad things about bands we like, we would just like to have an idea of why it is these people don't like them. I mean, I disagreed with that Larry Landberg guy's opinions on Foxtrot and And Then There Were Three, but he backed that opinion up very well, so I can easily accept that. Just saying "anyone who listens to this band is an egghead" hardly gives anyone an idea of what's wrong with said band, and it's not going to give anyone who does like that band an idea of what you consider wrong with them. |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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There is NO p*ss taking of Andrea going on here! Andrea clearly puts a fair bit of thought into her(?) reviews, and I'm sure when they are read in their native language, they read perfectly. What we are enjoying here is the fact that when run through translation software, the results can be highly amusing. Such software does very literal translations, without considering the context. I'm sure that if my own reviews were translated into Spanish in the same way, they would seem just as funny. I reckon Andrea would be tickled to know that her reviews had been translated to say things like "sincere contamination of the English Folk". It's easy to see what is meant, but babblefish comes up with a way of saying it which just would not be used by a person. I'm not sure where your quote came from, I think it was a different thread, and I'm sure the person that said it subsequently withdrew it and apologised. |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Guilty as charged (for it is I, Bob McBeath, or "Bob McBest-of" as the reviewer witily states I have been labouring the compilation reviews of late. Problem is, there's loads of them on the list of unreviewed albums Max posted. I can feel another thread coming on about the value or otherwise of compilations, and whether they should be included on this site.
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