Palmer vs Peart

My two cents - for the most part, Rush were considered hard rock or even heavy metal amongst my crowd.Not your typical hard rock or metal, but still in those styles. Prog at the time, in the late 70s brought to mind bands like Genesis, Gentle Giant, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd & such. Classical influences. long suites, complex tempos, concept albums - in essense rock with pretensions (whether you see thast as good or bad).
The question of first tier or second is harder. In music terms, they are arguably the following that are considered top tier - Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elvis, Chuck Berry, Led Zep, Elton John, Pink Floyd, Eagles. More modern acts that may join someday - U2, the Police, Nirvana, Pearl jam. The first five are usually out of each of argument's range. The rest are sometimes said to be the next tier along with The Who, The Clash, Black Sabbath, Genesis.  But even then any discussion soon becomes pointless as considerations such as sales, influence, career arc etc, make it impossible to really state unequivocally who's best better or good. An acquaintance of mine says if someone wants to argue, present the only objective measure is sales. He hates Britney Spears & loves a wide number of lesser selling bands, but just figures any arguing of the point is useless & a waste of time.

Palmer, without any doubt, he is my favourite drummer of all, and I think Pearl cant be compared with him

Palmer by a country mile!

Progger wrote: Palmer by a country mile! Peart's drumming went downhill as Rush's music became less challenging. His style is like a woman's techniqie and moves his whole arms with very little wrist control. See a video of the Corr's drummer or Karen Carpenter and you'll see what I mean!

  when all else fails.. and the horribly overrated lyricist and nothing more than a walking drum solo insults fail .... .just say he drums like a woman. 

that's worth a couple of clappies... on what basis.. I haven't figured it out yet




Edited by micky - February 15 2007 at 16:51

dralan wrote: Both are excellent, but for me Palmer plays with a little more taste.

hhahahha...  the Palmer fans here appreciate the vote.. but wonder about the complement of 'more taste'  thrown any where in the direction of Emerson Lake or Palmer

I just settle for a better, more creative,  and just plain more interesting drummer

Snow Dog wrote: This poll is closer than I thought. I'll make it closer.

hahaha  pleasantly surprised myself .. maybe I have squashed more roaches that I thought.. or

people have finally opened their ears and seen for all Rush's reknown.. it simply is child's play compared to ELP and it's wildly complex and difficult music.  Palmer was a creative force behind it.

maybe don't know or forget that is often isn't Peart who is the 'king' of prog drumming but the original master

some thoughts from some  leading internet reviewers....

George Sarostin "Carl Palmer, soulless or not, did epitomize prog drumming, with his technically perfect style and clever contributions to the band's sound."

John McFerrin : Carl Palmer, as fine a prog drummer as one could find in the world; with an impeccably fluid and solid playing technique:

CapnMarvel "Carl Palmer is a technical drummer to end all technical drummers, a walking paradiddle who never met a tricky drumbeat he didn't complicate. Palmer was, to say the least, probably the whitest drummer since the guy who used to play on the old Association records, a man more fit to playing march rhythms on his snare than getting down with the fonky double bass-pedals. I guess I'll say this much about Carl...though I don't much like his playing when I separate it out from the unit, he definitely fits in perfectly with the ELP sound as defined by his two bandmates."

That last comment in Micky's last post is quite funny. Carl could rip up a snare like no one else (in prog) although Ivan put forward an interesting view on another thread that his strength was on the bass drum.I would still contend though that Peart is a more complete drummer..especially when comparing his tom tom work and bass drum work next to Carl's. (symbal work is about equal)

Edited by richardh - February 16 2007 at 05:12

Palmer is technically more advanced than Peart & that's probably due to his classical training. Peart's a great self taught drummer but not in Palmer's league technically.

Neil Peart is my favorite drummer, so...I vote for him.

Tommy wrote: MadcapLaughs84 wrote: Neil Peart is my favorite drummer, so...I vote for him.   No disrespect to anyone but that is the only reason why Peart is getting any votes. Because people vote for their 'favourite' drummer & not the best. I'm a drummer and trust me, if drummers were only allowed to vote in such polls with no bias then Palmer would walk this contest.