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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: January 01 2007 at 17:11 | |
Yes it's illegal, you don't own a legal copy of the album.
It's absolutely legal to make a copy of all YOUR LEGALLY BOUGHT CD'S and copy them in MP3 format or whatever FOR PERSONAL USE, because that's one of the rights the copyright owner allows you.
But YOU have to pay for it first and only for your personal use.
Holy God! a musical Robin Hood!!!!
One question is it legal to steal from Phil Collins house because he's so rich that doesn't matter???? I guess not, then it's equally illegal to steal his music (Yes some people want to steal that ).
If you are copying other person's property (Yes the musical composition is his property and from his family until 120 years after the first públication in most counries) it's illegal and stealing, doesn't matter if the owner is rich or poor, the act of taking other person's property is exactly the same.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 01 2007 at 17:17 |
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Chris H
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
Posted: January 01 2007 at 17:26 | |
You have to fill out forms to photocopy at the library? In CT, we don't have to fill out forms but it's 50 cents for every photocopy you make.
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Beauty will save the world.
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: January 01 2007 at 21:00 | |
Ok, that's what I thought. Thanks for clearing that up. Although I was hoping that I'd discovered an awesome loophole.:)
I pose you another question: what if I copy an album that I have already bought and then sell the original while keeping the copy to listen to? I don't like what the iPod has come to stand for, but I must admit it's pretty cool. I can have about 260-270 albums on it, and that's encoded at the highest quality, 320 kb/s. Edited by Ghandi 2 - January 01 2007 at 21:03 |
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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: January 01 2007 at 22:05 | |
Also illegal, Ghandi 2, because then two separate consumers are benefitting from paying once for the work. To take it to an extreme, what if the person you sold the CD to then copied it and sold it to someone else who then copied it and sold it to someone else who...
In the UK, if I remember correctly it's currently illegal to copy a CD to MP3 even for yourself, but the UK Government intends to (may have done so recently?) change the law because that particular law 'is an ass', to use the popular saying, and everyone is ripping their CDs to MP3 for their iPods. EDIT: Yep, my memory was correct: Daily Telegraph 30 Oct 2006 - Why you are breaking the law every time you copy a CD to your iPod But, as I said, the current law is an ass and will no doubt be changed. Edited by Fitzcarraldo - January 01 2007 at 22:17 |
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billbuckner
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 07 2006 Status: Offline Points: 433 |
Posted: January 01 2007 at 22:12 | |
It's illegal, but theres no way in hell that it's going to bite you on the ass.
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: January 01 2007 at 22:18 | |
Asses do bite arses, though.
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: January 01 2007 at 22:34 | |
That's also what I thought. Oh well. No free lunch for me :)
I'm not worried about getting caught, or even really breaking the law; I'm worried about the morality. It may technically be wrong to copy a CD I bought, but it's not stealing so I don't really care because it's not like it's hurting the artist like stealing would. Just like I copied a CD my friend is lending me so it is easier for me to listen to it; that may break copyright law, but I'm going to delete it once I give it back to him. |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21211 |
Posted: January 02 2007 at 04:16 | |
În Germany we have a somewhat unique "exception" in our laws: Some of the restrictions usually defined by the rights holders don't apply for private use. That means that no matter whether a rights holder allows you to make private copies, you can do it. Also, differently to most other countries, you are allowed to make private copies of CDs and then sell the original, or borrow CDs from friends and copy them.
Personally I don't think this is ok ... in essence it means that for any burned/copied CD you have you can always say that you copied it from a friend, and nobody could prove you downloaded it from p2p (unless the files are watermarked of course). |
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billbuckner
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 07 2006 Status: Offline Points: 433 |
Posted: January 02 2007 at 09:21 | |
Morally, I suggest you do what I do. Get a copy, and if you like it, buy the album.
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