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bundy
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Topic: Help with prog metal Posted: December 16 2006 at 08:20 |
You are correct Mike. I bought my copy back in 1999 from the now defunct New Zealand online vendor Cranium Music run by Richard Stockwell. I also got a copy of their EP Infinity which is more straight ahead power metal.
Ken Golden often carries the album at the Laser's Edge.
Great album, Moonlight Waters is the highlight for me. The first 20 minutes are easily the finest 20 minutes of prog metal I've ever heard.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: December 16 2006 at 07:48 |
^ agreed. It's very rare though ... it took me a few years to find it, but I finally got my own copy (from Ebay).
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bundy
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Posted: December 16 2006 at 07:43 |
Paynes Grey - Kadath Decoded
Without doubt the most original prog - metal album I've ever heard. This album is is based on a HP Lovecraft novel; Dreamquest for the Unknown Kadath. This album blends some brilliant shredding guitar, flute, walls of synth ass well piano and in some areas sections has an almost Latin feel. The vocals are extraordinary. There are two very simialr sounding guys who both have astonishing voices. Hagen Schmidt who handles most of the lead vocals is perhaps the finest meatl vocalist I've ever heard.
This album can be difficult to track down but I strongly suggest you do, it's worth the effort!!
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Posted: December 12 2006 at 14:44 |
You'll probably like Shadow Gallery. They sound like a mixture of Pink Floyd and Dream Theater. Meshuggah is probably too heavy and complex for your taste. But you can listen to the samples here on PA and see if you like them. I do!
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el böthy
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Posted: December 12 2006 at 13:05 |
lucas wrote:
el böthy wrote:
Somebody mentioned ARK...they are good, though too "hair metal " for me
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Did you listen to their first album, it's quite different from the follow-up ? | No, actually I only have Burn the sun, so no. Although the hair metal part was a bit of a joke...but just a bit
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Swanhild
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Posted: December 11 2006 at 22:10 |
Could it be that you do not like DT because of the vocals? If so, then A Pleasant Shade of Gray from Fates Warning could be worth trying. PA has some very good samples of this album.
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Posted: December 11 2006 at 16:31 |
el böthy wrote:
Somebody mentioned ARK...they are good, though too "hair metal " for me
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Did you listen to their first album, it's quite different from the follow-up ?
Edited by lucas - December 11 2006 at 16:31
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el böthy
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Posted: December 11 2006 at 16:28 |
mmm...maybe...
In the Woods...? You might like them, they are very epic but with no virtuoisism what so ever (or is that one word?) just long songs that focus on the emotional and "sonic" so to say side of the genre with a male singer (a very good I might add, although definitly not for everybody) and a theatrical female singer.
Somebody mentioned ARK...they are good, though too "hair metal " for me ...jajajajja    
And then there are some bands that are almoust Post rock, like Agalloch and Anathema (in some cases)... in fact Anathema could be a metal Radiohead...
and then of course, there is...Tool
Edited by el böthy - December 11 2006 at 16:28
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Posted: December 11 2006 at 06:28 |
ALTURA - 'mercy' (one of the most overlooked prog-metal album)
MATRAZ - 'gritaré (with stunning female vocals)
EXPLORERS' CLUB - 'age of impact' (Magna Carta project, the monsters of metal-prog gathered for a metal-opera)
LEONARDO the absolute man (same comment as above)
ACT - 'last epic', if you don't mind some pop in your prog-metal
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DT_ELP_Yes
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 22:08 |
Nice man red is the sh*t
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Howe Protege
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 22:06 |
DT_ELP_Yes wrote:
Don't give up on Dream Theater, I used to not like them now I listen to them everyday. Try Remedy Lane-Pain of Salvation and Red-King Crimson. Red isn't really Prog-Metal but it's pretty heavy |
Red is already in my top 5
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:18 |
Try considering Anathema. Specially the album Natural Disaster.
Edited by Majestic_Mayhem - December 10 2006 at 21:19
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:17 |
Don't give up on Dream Theater, I used to not like them now I listen to them everyday. Try Remedy Lane-Pain of Salvation and Red-King Crimson. Red isn't really Prog-Metal but it's pretty heavy
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Howe Protege
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:15 |
I'm going to give Damnation a try.  As well as many other you guys gave me. Thanks alot everyone.
Edited by Howe Protege - December 10 2006 at 21:16
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hamham
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 20:03 |
Try Opeth again for us, please? Orchid is a wonderfully balanced album and ought to be enjoyed by all :]
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 18:12 |
Feel free to try listening to Ark!
A lot of it can be compared to Dream Theater; for example are all members virtuoses in their respective areas, however, they don't do as much instrument-masturbating show-offs, and their overall sound is more towards traditional hard rock/metal compared to dream theater. Let me also tell you that Jørn Lande is a very skilled vocalist with a very very nice voice, perfectly fit for the music made by Ark!
the only bad thing about Ark(imo) is that they split up after their 2nd album =(
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 17:31 |
I second Pain Of Salvation but I would start with Remedy Lane which is less metalish and IMO as good as The Perfect Element.
For a band between neo-prog and metal (like Riverside) check out Arena.
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 17:01 |
If you don't like dream theater you might not enjoy Fates Warning or Shadow Gallery. They sound similar to DT, which is precisely the reason why i don't find them that great.(just a comment, i admit i haven't heard much of either band and i don't intend to offend anyone) but you do enjoy LTE so you might like them still.
These are some bands you may like, the albums i listed are generally on the lighter side of metal: 1. Anathema - 'A Fine Day To Exit' or 'Judgement' or 'Alternative 4'. They sound kinda similar to riverside, pink floyd and radiohead. I love this band.
2. Savatage - 'The Wake Of Magellan' Kinda Queen-like, very operatic, you may be shocked by the cheesiness
3. Wolverine - 'Still'. Again very similar to Riverside. Avoid their other 2 albums if you don't like growling as this one is much lighter and doesn't have growls. Have a listen to 'Taste Of Sand' if you can find it on the net anywhere.
4. Pain of Salvation - 'The Perfect Element pt.1' An amazing mix of almost every style of music in the world. Progressive-folk-power-electronica-rap-classical-metal. Highly recommended. Many parts that IMHO sound similar to LTE.
5. Opeth - 'Damnation' i love opeth. This is the only one by them without growling. Techincally it's not metal, but very good nonetheless.
6. Devin Townsend - 'Terria' Unlike anything you've heard before. It does have a very tiny amount of growling (only a little more than riverside), but it is done in a slightly unusual fashion in that it is often used to express joy and happiness rather than hatred or anger. I love this album, but it is quite hard to get into. Try find 'Nobody Here' on the internet or something. It's beautiful, majestic, emotional and uplifting Progressive industrial metal.
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 10:56 |
Barla wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
Check out Shadow Gallery, Magellan, Enchant, Fates Warning and Queensrÿche. All fantastic prog-metal bands that are rich on melody and are generally less heavy than most other prog-metal bands! |
I don't consider Magellan or Enchant to be Prog metal ... Magellan is a kind of heavy Symphonic Prog and I consider Enchant to be Art Rock, IMO.
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Still, both have lot's of metal influences in their music, notably Magellan.
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 08:08 |
Pain of Salvation, Shadow Gallery and Fates Warning (Alder era albums! - A Pleasant Shade of Grey especially!  )
Edited by Ed_The_Dead - December 10 2006 at 08:09
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