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Scapler 
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 Posted: October 27 2006 at 16:36 |
 Arsillus wrote:
Scapler wrote:
Arrrghus wrote:
I'm joining: hell, I've wept like a baby listening to Script For a Jester's Tear and Misplaced Childhood, several VdGG songs, etc.
I also have silly romantic thoughts about Helen.
Plus, I write poetry.
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Well, I took it for granted you would want in. Your thoughts of Helen qualify, you're in.
I qualify becuase of the silly and romantic Concept Album I wrote for Hope, sigh...
I need to finish writing the keyboard/viola parts to it so we can RECORD it! Then, when she turns 16 and I ask her out, and she says yes (which she will) I can shyly say, I wrote this album for you. She will listen to it, be freaked out a little, then realize it is the sweetest, most romantic thing anyone has done for her and be forced to fall in love with me. Then, I can write songs in my old age about enduring love while touring with the latest Prog supergroups!
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Why 16?
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It is when her step-dad will let her start dating...only one more month... 
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Arsillus
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Posted: October 27 2006 at 16:37 |
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I don't think I am, really.
I'm all for the non-degradation of women and all that junk and I'm sincere in my feeling (when it's not hungry). I like nature.
But I have punched people and I enjoy shooting movies. I eat meat raw and I hunt with my own blood and bare hands.
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Arsillus
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Posted: October 27 2006 at 16:38 |
Scapler wrote:
Arsillus wrote:
Scapler wrote:
Arrrghus wrote:
I'm joining: hell, I've wept like a baby listening to Script For a Jester's Tear and Misplaced Childhood, several VdGG songs, etc.
I also have silly romantic thoughts about Helen.
Plus, I write poetry.
Top that, bitch. |
Well, I took it for granted you would want in. Your thoughts of Helen qualify, you're in.
I qualify becuase of the silly and romantic Concept Album I wrote for Hope, sigh...
I need to finish writing the keyboard/viola parts to it so we can RECORD it! Then, when she turns 16 and I ask her out, and she says yes (which she will) I can shyly say, I wrote this album for you. She will listen to it, be freaked out a little, then realize it is the sweetest, most romantic thing anyone has done for her and be forced to fall in love with me. Then, I can write songs in my old age about enduring love while touring with the latest Prog supergroups!
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Why 16?
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It is when her step-dad will let her start dating...only one more month...
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That's a good idea.
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Peter
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 01:12 |
Scapler wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
andu wrote:
Jim Garten, a brave man wrote:
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wow, you're quite brave to confess that, i haven't seen any till now. when i say it, people stare at me with large eyes and open mouth... "whaaaat?..." |
I find today's youth, on the whole, to be rabidly homophobic. 
They are perhaps less racist that previous generations  , but the pendulum has really swung backward as far as accepting or even tolerating homosexuality goes. They use the word "gay" when they really want to insult one another, tease mercilessly about it (many youth suicides result from this), and have even made "gay" into a generic put down, meaning "lame, stupid," etc. (I really hate to hear the word used that way.  ) I think the emergence of HIV/AIDS, and its initial perception as a "gay disease," was largely responsible for this shift in attitude.
 Re the inquiry about the difference between "romanticism" and "romantism," the first is a word (the meaning is easily found in a dictionary), and the second is not. (It is the first, mis-spelled.)  |
It's not that I'm homophobic, but tell me what part of this is acceptable:
Two cowboys leave the wives they have married, and one of them has children they abandon to go have some "cowboy fun" in a tent
It doesn't matter if these cowpeople are gay or straight, they already have families, and leaving those families, even if they are in love, is despicable, and a shirking and downgrading of the responsibilities of both a husband and parent.
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I've never even seen the movie, I'm straight, and why are you quoting me? I advocate tolerance/acceptance of others' homosexuality -- not the "adoption" of it by all! 
Are you grownup enough to understand those distinctions?
Anyway, what is up with your "cowboy fun?"
What if they were in love? (As, I believe, is the premise.)
It is just the sex that makes you hate, but the sexual realm does not totally define us as people. There is more to us than what we do in bed, with another consenting adult, and such people don't just "decide" to "go" gay -- they are gay all along.
BTW, straight people in love have sex too, and find it to be "fun," and pleasurable.
But it does not define them, or sum them up as humans. They could be "saints," psychos, or anything in between.
Would you ban all divorce? That will make for a lot of kids being raised in some very happy homes, all right!
Ditch your 2000 year old book of myths, think it through, and grow up. You and society are not threatened. (See ancient Greece and Rome.)
Homosexuality has always been there, and even exists in the animal kingdom -- should we burn them all? Goodbye, Da Vinci! Bye bye, Bowie! Ta ta, Tchaikovsky! Sayonara, Elton! See ya later, Mick!
Edited by Peter Rideout - October 28 2006 at 01:14
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 12:54 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Scapler wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
andu wrote:
Jim Garten, a brave man wrote:
loved 'Brokeback Mountain' |
wow, you're quite brave to confess that, i haven't seen any till now. when i say it, people stare at me with large eyes and open mouth... "whaaaat?..." |
I find today's youth, on the whole, to be rabidly homophobic.
They are perhaps less racist that previous generations , but the pendulum has really swung backward as far as accepting or even tolerating homosexuality goes. They use the word "gay" when they really want to insult one another, tease mercilessly about it (many youth suicides result from this), and have even made "gay" into a generic put down, meaning "lame, stupid," etc. (I really hate to hear the word used that way. ) I think the emergence of HIV/AIDS, and its initial perception as a "gay disease," was largely responsible for this shift in attitude.
Re the inquiry about the difference between "romanticism" and "romantism," the first is a word (the meaning is easily found in a dictionary), and the second is not. (It is the first, mis-spelled.) |
It's not that I'm homophobic, but tell me what part of this is acceptable:
Two cowboys leave the wives they have married, and one of them has children they abandon to go have some "cowboy fun" in a tent
It doesn't matter if these cowpeople are gay or straight, they already have families, and leaving those families, even if they are in love, is despicable, and a shirking and downgrading of the responsibilities of both a husband and parent.
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I've never even seen the movie, I'm straight, and why are you quoting me? I advocate tolerance/acceptance of others' homosexuality -- not the "adoption" of it by all!
Are you grownup enough to understand those distinctions?
Anyway, what is up with your "cowboy fun?"
What if they were in love? (As, I believe, is the premise.)
It is just the sex that makes you hate, but the sexual realm does not totally define us as people. There is more to us than what we do in bed, with another consenting adult, and such people don't just "decide" to "go" gay -- they are gay all along.
BTW, straight people in love have sex too, and find it to be "fun," and pleasurable.
But it does not define them, or sum them up as humans. They could be "saints," psychos, or anything in between.
Would you ban all divorce? That will make for a lot of kids being raised in some very happy homes, all right!
Ditch your 2000 year old book of myths, think it through, and grow up. You and society are not threatened. (See ancient Greece and Rome.)
Homosexuality has always been there, and even exists in the animal kingdom -- should we burn them all? Goodbye, Da Vinci! Bye bye, Bowie! Ta ta, Tchaikovsky! Sayonara, Elton! See ya later, Mick!
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I think what he was getting at (although worded a bit differently) is that though they may have been in love, they shouldn't abandon all previously made responsibilities for it. And about the divorce thing: do you really think banning divorce would make kids miserable? DIVORCE ALREADY DOES! My parents are divorced, and it's always a debacle going to my dad's house, they always talk badly about each other and (if you couldn't tell from some of my other posts) it's left me very psychologically messed up. And I'm not against persecution for anyone no matter what they do (except maybe serial murder and such), including gay people. Now, I a) see it immoral for myself to do it and b) am personally repulsed by the thought of commiting such an action myself (because I'm hetero, i.e. I don't think I could "go gay" as you said before). HOWEVER, my morals are for myself and only myself, enforcing them upon others is a violation of their freedom. So, as such, whilst I don't exactly advocate homosexuality, I don't think homosexuals don't deserve the mocking, discrimination, and persecution they've been getting. Back to the romantic thing.....I really like this one girl  but I know nothing's gonna happen...  I guess that makes me more of a pessimist than a romantic, eh  BTW Peter how do you change color in posts? I can't seem to figure it out for my life 
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Falling Flower
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 12:56 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Well, about a year ago, I would have joined, but I've changed since then, so I'm gonna start a Cynical Hate the Worlders club, I fully expect every Tool and Hicks fan to be there (that's an order kids) |
I love the world. 
Well...I hate the world too.
But I love the world.
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Tool makes the butterflies in my tumybox go woooooooosh
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 13:01 |
Falling Flower wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Well, about a year ago, I would have joined, but I've changed since then, so I'm gonna start a Cynical Hate the Worlders club, I fully expect every Tool and Hicks fan to be there (that's an order kids) |
I love the world.
Well...I hate the world too.
But I love the world.
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you're in
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Falling Flower
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 13:13 |
Hm...romance...Well...I'm romantic in a weird way...I'm a necrophiliac.
No not the kind of necrophiliac that has sex with dead people. 
There are some necrophiliacs, like me, who don't take it so far with the dead.
Necrophilism is all about being dominant in a relationship, findaly having all control about it. That's why almost all necrophiliacs developed their love for the dead after a break-up that they did not expect or after relationships in wich they were being used.
In my case it comes from not having a family until I was almost 3 years old. My mother gave me away to friends at birth, they kept me for a month and then gave me to other people etc. Meaning in the first 3 years of my life I had a band with several people but they always pushed me away again and I couldn't do a thing about it.
So now, because of those problems in my childhood, I feel strongly attracted to the dead.
I have a couple of bones, human and animal, I named them, I talk to them, I nurse them, they're a part of my life. And they can never go away. I have all control over them and over our "relationship".
I'd never go as far as having sex with them, but apparently my case is one of necrophilism too.
Isn't that romantic?
Edited by Falling Flower - October 28 2006 at 13:20
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Falling Flower
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 13:27 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Falling Flower wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Well, about a year ago, I would have joined, but I've changed since then, so I'm gonna start a Cynical Hate the Worlders club, I fully expect every Tool and Hicks fan to be there (that's an order kids) |
I love the world.
Well...I hate the world too.
But I love the world.
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you're in
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No.
I love the world, I love our planet, I love every little thing living on it, I love life, I love love.
I just hate mankind for our ignorance. We're destroying ourselves and our beautiful planet with everything on it in so many different ways and most of us don't even realize or care about it.
I hate myself for not being able to save the world, I hate myself for not being able to make other people listen to me and see that we have to change our way of living if we want out childrens children to be able to breath normaly and go outside without being afraid of getting shot or run over.
I hate the fact that some people on this planet do realize what we're doing to it, yet they don't get heard. The people only think about here and now, they don't care that their children might all die in a nuclear war if we don't stop building atom bombs, they don't care that their grandchildren might all die of longcancer if we keep poluting the air. They're too stuborn to look beyond their own little lives and see the bigger picture.
That's the part I hate. (I can go on like this several pages but I doubt anyone would read it)
For the rest I'm all love. 
Edited by Falling Flower - October 28 2006 at 13:29
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 14:35 |
Awww, that was a cool message, Debby and I agree with you. Well said.  You're still weird though. 
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 14:39 |
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Falling Flower
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 18:02 |
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Tool makes the butterflies in my tumybox go woooooooosh
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Arrrghus
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Posted: October 28 2006 at 18:12 |
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This is a fun little thread!
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Visitor13
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Posted: October 29 2006 at 06:48 |
Falling Flower wrote:
Hm...romance...Well...I'm romantic in a weird way...I'm a necrophiliac.
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Ha! Tony R owes me twenty pounds!
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Peter
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Posted: October 29 2006 at 09:51 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
BTW Peter how do you change color in posts? I can't seem to figure it out for my life
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At the top of the post box is a capital A with a heavy black line under it -- click on that.
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Too bad, though, I have copyrighted my use of colour in posts here -- every time you do it, you'll need my permission, and there is a significant co$t for that.
I have a special deal on now: one year of unlimited colour for $3000 American.
BTW, I don't actually change colour (I avoid tanning) -- just my text does! 
Edited by Peter Rideout - October 29 2006 at 09:53
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 29 2006 at 10:30 |
Of course, hence why I said it.
Edited by Geck0 - October 29 2006 at 10:30
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Frasse
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Posted: October 29 2006 at 10:37 |
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How much do I owe you for this Peter?
Edited by Frasse - October 29 2006 at 10:39
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Visitor13
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