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Atkingani
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 18:18 |
Tarcisio Moura wrote:
TM,
The * is used because there is information missing for the band. |
HI, Guigo: If there's any information missing, I'd be glad to give it. But really, is it the case? I think everything that was asked was provided. Anyway, if so, just ask. [/QUOTE]
Duh... the info I had is that (*) is used when something important is missing, etc. as a feedback for the teams responsible to complete the discographies and/or edit errors and omissions. If I'm wrong I'm sorry!
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Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2006
Location: Brazil
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Points: 198
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 13:39 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Hello Tarcisio.
That Arion CD must be really good to please me if there is no Mellotron on it ..
I remember another wonderful Brasilian symphonic rock band
using much Grand piano, that was Loch Ness on their album
Prologue, this evoked a lot of tension with the harder-edged electric
guitar
I hope to hear your comment on my review...
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Hi, Erik:
I just read you review. Well, I'm glad you liked the record, although I
don't really agree with everything you wrote. I still think they're
very much a symphonic prog band, but I also understand it takes some
time to get all the subtleties their music offers. They're only
different. On the surface the CD really sounds a bit neo progressive in
some parts, so I reckon other reviewrs opinions. Anyway, I'm glad you
wrote the review, it's far better than mine!
And yes, they do not have a mellotron on the album, but as long
as I remember during one of their shows I saw Sérgio Paolucci playing
and old ARP String Essemble synthesizer which, I think, it's the same
he plays on record and this instrument is also part of the prog
history, isn't it?
I'm looking forward to hear some of the bands you mentioned on the review. I'm really curious about them.
Thanks for writing and I hope we can talk more soon
Tarcísio Moura
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erik neuteboom
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:21 |
Hello Tarcisio.
Yes, our reviews were quite different in several ways, also the rating. To me the music sounded more modern and accessible than I had expected and also the atmosphere was in general more close to early Marillion than Yes or ELP, I had expected a more typical Seventies sound. But both reviews are positive and I hope it will seduce other progheads to discover Arion. And I hope you will visit my thread about symphonic prog in the Prog Music Lounge, it is loaded with recommendations
Edited by erik neuteboom - September 26 2006 at 15:48
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Tarcisio Moura
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 07:45 |
Helol, Erik:
Yes, I think different people and different opinions will always
appear. I still think the best of them is not really their obvious 70's
influences, but the mix with brazilian roots. That gave them a sound of
their own. Maybe is a little hard to find all the small details and
nuances. At least it took me some time to fully appreciate it.
Anyway, it is always good to hear other opinions.
By the way, how can I find your thread? What's the music lounge?
Best regards!
Tarcísio Moura
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: September 27 2006 at 13:11 |
If you click on Active Topics, you can find the Prog Music Lounge, the first choice, then you will find my thread entitled Symphonic Prog Appreciation Thread, on page #1 I have selected all progrock specials from countries like Spain, Italy, Japan, USA, ... etc. I hope you will find it, lots of recommendations
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Tarcisio Moura
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Location: Brazil
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Posted: September 28 2006 at 09:21 |
Hello, Erik:
I visited you r music thread, very interesting and lots of new bands!
Congratulations for the great and patient work. I like prog bands with
female singers. If you know many of them around could you tell me which
one's you think are the best?
Thank you very much
Tarcísio
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: September 28 2006 at 11:56 |
Tarcisio, thanks for the compliments, how good to read that my thread about symphonic prog pleases you
My recommendations for bands with female singers: Italian band Aries is great and also Nexus, especially the album Metanoia and let's not forget Bacamarte with the 'classic' Depois Do Fim !
Edited by erik neuteboom - September 28 2006 at 11:56
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Tarcisio Moura
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 07:15 |
Hi, Erik:
Your prog thread is really amazing, I wonder how you do it and when you find time to hear, avaliate and write it a!l!
Anyway,m thanks for the recomendations. I got Metanoia form Nexus and
I'll be reviewing it soon, I'm waiting for Aries to arrive.
Best regards
Tarcísio Moura
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 08:02 |
Well, Tarcisio, my secret is that I have a progrock database with more than 2000 reviews I have written in the last 15 years for several progrock magazines and progrock sites. For my symphonic prog thread I compile these reviews out of my progrock database, it's a less time-sonsuming than first listening and then writing as you presumed Nonetheless, it takes a lot of time to make all those specials but it is fun and I am very pleased with all those positive reactions, like from you
Bacamarte is from Brazil, do you know that awesome band?
I am looking forward to your reviews!
By the way, I have posted your reaction in my thread, OK?
Edited by erik neuteboom - September 29 2006 at 08:06
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Tarcisio Moura
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Posted: September 29 2006 at 14:42 |
Hi, Erik:
I just heard Nexus Metanoia CD and I found it really outstanding!
Although I still think Arion is better (at least in the originality and
lead singer topics) I have a place in my heart for them. I thank you
for the recomendation. It is always a pleasure to find such great bands
to hear and it's a pity so few people have the opportunity to do so.
People like you are a great help to spread the word. Keep on the
excellent work.
Thanks for posting my opinion in your thread. It's only sincere.
Best regards
Tarcísio Moura
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Tarcisio Moura
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 13:47 |
Hi, Erik:
I Loved the Aries CD! Very, very good. It was a nice surprise.Thanks for the recommendation.
Best regards
Tarcísio
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 15:05 |
Hello Tarcisio.
Thanks, good to hear your positive remarks about Aries, this band deserves more attention!
I just told in my thread about symphonic prog that during the progrock evening I organized last Friday your band Arion was embraced, lots of symphomaniacs intend to buy it But we had a discussion about the category, in the end somebody said 'neo-symphonic prog'
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memowakeman
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Joined: May 19 2005
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 15:43 |
I have listened to the album and i think it´s pretty good!
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Tarcisio Moura
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:24 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Hello Tarcisio.
Thanks, good to hear your positive remarks about Aries, this band deserves more attention!
I just told in my thread about symphonic prog that during the
progrock evening I organized last Friday your band Arion was embraced,
lots of symphomaniacs intend to buy it But we had a discussion about the category, in the end somebody said 'neo-symphonic prog' |
Hi, Erik:
Yes, I think Aries should get more attention. I loved it, very good music, I keep listening to it over and over.
It must have been very cool the progrock evening. I wish I was there .
Well, some people would say Arion is neo progressive when they hear two
of the guitar solos (namely on Eyes Of Time and Land Of Dreams). they
do ressemble Steve Rothery style, but that's it. The rest is quite
symphonic and I see no traces of neo prog anywhere else. But really it
does not surprise me. I've seen a lot of bands that I would say it's
more symphonic than neo prog, and they are included in that category
and that includes Nexus. So I think its a matter of opinion more than
anything else. It seemes that very few people are willing to accept new
bands in that "top" label, isn't it?
Best wishes
Tarcísio
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Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2006
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 19:36 |
memowakeman wrote:
I have listened to the album and i think it´s pretty good! |
Hi, Memowakeman:
I'm really glad you liked it. I was lucky to see the band live and I
can tell you they play exactly like the CD, but unfortunatly the record
does not reproduces the whole performance (specially the charismatic
singer Tânia Braz, who also used to dance during the instrumental
breaks, giving a hint of her time as a flamenco and classic dancer).
But anyway, it's good to know that Arion's music reached your country.
I hope they live up to your expectations.
Best regards
Tarcísio Moura
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Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2006
Location: Brazil
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Posted: October 09 2006 at 13:04 |
Hello, Cesar:
I just read your review about the band Aisle. You got me curious about it and I asked for the CD. I'll write when I get it.
Thanks for the recomendation!
Best regards
Tarcísio Moura
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Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2006
Location: Brazil
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Posted: October 13 2006 at 14:26 |
Hi, Memowakeman:
Just got a CD from a mexican band called Cast. Beyond Reality is really
a great album, it quite surpised me. Do you know any other albums from
this band you recommend?
thanks a lot
Tarcísio B. Moura
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: October 21 2005
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Posted: October 13 2006 at 14:39 |
My good friend Tarcisio,
Have you thought in navigating through our forums? Leave this topic only for Arion and visit other fine places here in PA.
In other words: dê um bordejo por aí, uai!
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Guigo
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Tarcisio Moura
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2006
Location: Brazil
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Posted: October 16 2006 at 14:06 |
HI, guigo:
Ok, I'll. There are so many topics... it was easier to talk right here, but I got your point and you're right.
Best regards
Tarcísio
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