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Colin 
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 Posted: August 10 2006 at 14:32 |
 MajesterX wrote:
Look at the S. Wilson influence and sucking-up in this thread. Just because he's around it's now 38 to 50??????? What the hell? Vote for your honest opinion, no one knows who you vote for unless you tell them.
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That's what I tought, too. Then I voted for him. 
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The answer is 42.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 14:36 |
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It's probably people logging out and re-voting unless that glitch was fixed. I do believe that Wilson is better though. I just find it hard to believe that he was losing by a good deal when this poll faded and no he made a triumphant comeback. Vote honestly people. Personally, I can't stand Opeth. I tried listening to Ghost Reveries, but couldn't make it through an entire song. I'm not a fan of brutal metal/vox, but I really like the soft parts.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 14:43 |
stonebeard wrote:
It's probably people logging out and re-voting unless that glitch was fixed. I do believe that Wilson is better though. I just find it hard to believe that he was losing by a good deal when this poll faded and no he made a triumphant comeback. Vote honestly people. Personally, I can't stand Opeth. I tried listening to Ghost Reveries, but couldn't make it through an entire song. I'm not a fan of brutal metal/vox, but I really like the soft parts. |
Ghost Reveries isn't the best representation of what Opeth is capable of doing. Try Still Life, Blackwater Park, or Deliverence for a complete view of Opeth.
Steve Wilson was able to capture Opeth's sound in a way no engineer past or current can. (Blackwater Park, Delieverence, Damnation)
I still have to give my vote to Akerfelt, he hasn't given the scene as much of a resume Wilson has, but I think he's the more talented musician. Wilson holds a slight edge if vocals, but when it comes to guitar playing and composing, I don't see how I couldn't vote for Akerfelt.
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Kleynan
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 15:54 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
It's probably people logging out and re-voting unless that glitch was fixed. I do believe that Wilson is better though. I just find it hard to believe that he was losing by a good deal when this poll faded and no he made a triumphant comeback. Vote honestly people. Personally, I can't stand Opeth. I tried listening to Ghost Reveries, but couldn't make it through an entire song. I'm not a fan of brutal metal/vox, but I really like the soft parts. |
Ghost Reveries isn't the best representation of what Opeth is capable of doing. Try Still Life, Blackwater Park, or Deliverence for a complete view of Opeth.
Steve Wilson was able to capture Opeth's sound in a way no engineer past or current can. (Blackwater Park, Delieverence, Damnation)
I still have to give my vote to Akerfelt, he hasn't given the scene as much of a resume Wilson has, but I think he's the more talented musician. Wilson holds a slight edge if vocals, but when it comes to guitar playing and composing, I don't see how I couldn't vote for Akerfelt. |
I think Mikael really challenged himself on Still Life. It is definetly Opeth's most unique album.
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You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks.
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xtopher
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:25 |
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I still think I prefer Steve, but the fact that he was originally losing made voting for him easier for me. Then the man himself came on here and all of a sudden he's dominating. I want to vote for Mike now!
You know, Ghost Reveries reeeeally isn't that bad. But yeah, probably not Opeth's best.
Edited by xtopher - August 10 2006 at 17:26
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Padraic
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:27 |
xtopher wrote:
You know, Ghost Reveries reeeeally isn't that bad. But yeah, probably not Opeth's best.
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I think it is.
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crimson magus
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:47 |
NaturalScience wrote:
xtopher wrote:
You know, Ghost Reveries reeeeally isn't that bad. But yeah, probably not Opeth's best.
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I think it is.
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Trying to immitate another band's sound is a crime.
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xtopher
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:53 |
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crimson magus
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:01 |
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KoS
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:16 |
doesn't sound like Tool to me 
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:23 |
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Kleynan
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:25 |
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It has it's tool moments indeed. Put it is one of their best efforts. Probably their third best album.
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You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks.
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xtopher
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:53 |
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I'm sorry, but even at its worst, Ghost Reveries knocks Tool out of the water.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 18:54 |
crimson magus wrote:
Trying to immitate another band's sound is a crime. |
No it isn't.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 19:23 |
xtopher wrote:
I'm sorry, but even at its worst, Ghost Reveries knocks Tool out of the water. |
Got that right !
My vote still goes for Akerfeldt, but let's all admit he had some great help from S Wilson...
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 20:39 |
Kleynan wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
It's probably people logging out and re-voting unless that glitch was fixed. I do believe that Wilson is better though. I just find it hard to believe that he was losing by a good deal when this poll faded and no he made a triumphant comeback. Vote honestly people. Personally, I can't stand Opeth. I tried listening to Ghost Reveries, but couldn't make it through an entire song. I'm not a fan of brutal metal/vox, but I really like the soft parts. |
Ghost Reveries isn't the best representation of what Opeth is capable of doing. Try Still Life, Blackwater Park, or Deliverence for a complete view of Opeth.
Steve Wilson was able to capture Opeth's sound in a way no engineer past or current can. (Blackwater Park, Delieverence, Damnation)
I still have to give my vote to Akerfelt, he hasn't given the scene as much of a resume Wilson has, but I think he's the more talented musician. Wilson holds a slight edge if vocals, but when it comes to guitar playing and composing, I don't see how I couldn't vote for Akerfelt. |
I think Mikael really challenged himself on Still Life. It is definetly Opeth's most unique album. |
What I like about Still Life is that it was Opeth first album that I would consider as a piece of Progressive Music. The first three albums are good, but they just fall short of the Progressive Mark. Still Life pushed them beyond that mark, and they've been ahead of it ever since. That being said, I don't believe Opeth has ever topped the compositions "White Cluster" and "Moonlapse Vertigo".
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OpethGuitarist
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 23:33 |
The first riff 1 min into Ghost of Perdition sounds like Tool. The rest
of it doesnt. It's just that one riff. Other than that, nothing like
Tool. Sounding like other bands is not a problem, ripping them off is.
See Octavarium, read my review on that..., cept of course for you AtLoss, wouldn't want to shock you. 
Consider me the ultimate Opeth expert here, if you have questions about the band, pm me, I will most likely know exact answers.
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back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: August 10 2006 at 23:58 |
Kleynan wrote:
It has it's tool moments indeed. Put it is one of their best efforts. Probably their third best album. |
Where? The claim seems utterly ridiculous to me.
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Kleynan
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Posted: August 11 2006 at 00:08 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
Kleynan wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
It's probably people logging out and re-voting unless that glitch was fixed. I do believe that Wilson is better though. I just find it hard to believe that he was losing by a good deal when this poll faded and no he made a triumphant comeback. Vote honestly people. Personally, I can't stand Opeth. I tried listening to Ghost Reveries, but couldn't make it through an entire song. I'm not a fan of brutal metal/vox, but I really like the soft parts. |
Ghost Reveries isn't the best representation of what Opeth is capable of doing. Try Still Life, Blackwater Park, or Deliverence for a complete view of Opeth.
Steve Wilson was able to capture Opeth's sound in a way no engineer past or current can. (Blackwater Park, Delieverence, Damnation)
I still have to give my vote to Akerfelt, he hasn't given the scene as much of a resume Wilson has, but I think he's the more talented musician. Wilson holds a slight edge if vocals, but when it comes to guitar playing and composing, I don't see how I couldn't vote for Akerfelt. |
I think Mikael really challenged himself on Still Life. It is definetly Opeth's most unique album. |
What I like about Still Life is that it was Opeth first album that I would consider as a piece of Progressive Music. The first three albums are good, but they just fall short of the Progressive Mark. Still Life pushed them beyond that mark, and they've been ahead of it ever since. That being said, I don't believe Opeth has ever topped the compositions "White Cluster" and "Moonlapse Vertigo". |
White Cluster is the ultimate Opeth song. It's amazing. They had their progressive moments before Still Life, but I agree: Still Life was their first true full-blown prog album.
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You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks.
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Kleynan
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Posted: August 11 2006 at 00:21 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Kleynan wrote:
It has it's tool moments indeed. Put it is one of their best efforts. Probably their third best album. |
Where? The claim seems utterly ridiculous to me. |
To name one:
"Ghost of Perdition", when he sings "Darkness by her side/Spoke and passed her by". The drums are pretty similar to Tools. Also the end of "Beneath the Mire", and there are more.
I also remember, around the time the album was being produced, Mikael had Laterelus in his playlist. And he's been praising them countless times in interviews. I'm sure he borrowed some influence, and I'm not criticising. Ghost Reveries was my favorite Opeth album for months.
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