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Poll Question: Mikael Åkerfeldt or Steven Wilson?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:24
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.

IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.

New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:25
Steve, if you're still reading - I'm steadily accumulating the PT catalog, just bought the Stupid Dream reissue along with Signfiy (already own In Absentia and Deadwing) - it's all fantastic, thanks for all the great music.  I'll try to catch the show at the Keswick in October.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:37
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.

IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.

New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.


As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Cry Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement...

*rushes for flame shield*

Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:39
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.

IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.

New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.


As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Cry Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement...

*rushes for flame shield*

Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking...



I wasn't bashing them, Raffaella, I was just stating what I feel is the current situation with the band. While I don't think Vapor Trails is the greatest album ever, it had more than enough great moments to make me give it a steady rotation in my cd player. Still, wouldn't it be awesome for a sequel to Hemispheres or a wild instrumental like La Villa to pop up randomly on their next album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:44
It wasn't you bashing Rush, Cyggie, it was Flossy... And I agree with you on all counts!Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:44
Originally posted by FishyMonkey FishyMonkey wrote:

Remedy Lane, one sided? Please. True, it deals with the torment of one person, and BE is very complicated. Be does have a good concept, but Gildenlow seems to have forgotten about making good music in the process. It's practically 75% concept, 25% music.

    
The music that is available on that album owns anything on Remedy Lane. Remedy Lane does have its moments, its just overrated and very dull compared to other PoS releases. Only Entropia is weaker IMO.

I agree with Bluesaga, The BE DVD does own the BE studio album. Gildenlow's presence is just too heavy in the dvd to forget about it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:46
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.

IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.

New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.


As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Cry Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement...

*rushes for flame shield*

Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking...



I wasn't bashing them, Raffaella, I was just stating what I feel is the current situation with the band. While I don't think Vapor Trails is the greatest album ever, it had more than enough great moments to make me give it a steady rotation in my cd player. Still, wouldn't it be awesome for a sequel to Hemispheres or a wild instrumental like La Villa to pop up randomly on their next album?
 
Rush has always been about trying out new approaches to their music, and that is the key to their longevity ; fans wondering "What's next?".  Even though I really enjoy ALL their albums except TfE, which still has it's moments (the fanboy in me had to scream thisWink) and especially the late 70's early 80's period, I would not want them to do that all over again... but if they did, I have to admit I would be really happy !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:46
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:


Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:


Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:


Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.

IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands.
New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.
As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement... *rushes for flame shield*Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking...
I wasn't bashing them, Raffaella, I was just stating what I feel is the current situation with the band. While I don't think Vapor Trails is the greatest album ever, it had more than enough great moments to make me give it a steady rotation in my cd player. Still, wouldn't it be awesome for a sequel to Hemispheres or a wild instrumental like La Villa to pop up randomly on their next album?


On the other hand, I can't stand new Rush, because Geddy's voice is mellowier and I liked the heavier Geddy. Plus I don't think new Rush is even good pop.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:47
New Rush isn't pop, Flossy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:49
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

New Rush isn't pop, Flossy!

    
Yea, but its pretty much poop.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:50
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

New Rush isn't pop, Flossy!

    
Yea, but its pretty much poop.

Not really.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:55
Tony, where are you when you are needed?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:58
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Tony, where are you when you are needed?


Well I could be on gigolo duty if you asked nicely...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:04
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

New Rush isn't pop, Flossy!

    
Yea, but its pretty much poop.

Not really.Wink


Second that regarding the DVDs. Wink

The studio however...Disapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:04
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Tony, where are you when you are needed?


Well I could be on gigolo duty if you asked nicely...


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Embarrassed

BTW... Aren't we going hugely OT in this thread?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:06
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Tony, where are you when you are needed?


Well I could be on gigolo duty if you asked nicely...


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LOL...Stern Smile...Pinch

It hurts Tony, to think about that.Pinch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:09
What the heck do you mean by that?!?AngryWinkTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:09
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:


Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Tony, where are you when you are needed?


Well I could be on gigolo duty if you asked nicely...


....
     
BTW... Aren't we going hugely OT in this thread?

    

Well what's there to argue about?

SW is a seriously talented musician,singer,composer,producer,and lyricist.....and Akelfeld has a singing style designed to clear all wildlife off the nearest 40 acres.


Rush are the most talented bunch of musicians in the world,continue to release wonderfully progressive albums and those who dont agree will get Terminated.

And for a fee I am willing to accompany ladies "of a certain age"

Ok?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:17
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

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Well what's there to argue about?

SW is a seriously talented musician,singer,composer,producer,and lyricist.....and Akelfeld has a singing style designed to clear all wildlife off the nearest 40 acres.


Rush are the most talented bunch of musicians in the world,continue to release wonderfully progressive albums and those who dont agree will get Terminated.

And for a fee I am willing to accompany ladies "of a certain age"

Ok?



"Ladies of a certain age..." Angryhmm... I think we are about the same age, but as usual there's prejudice against women who are not 20 any more... Luckily enough, I don't need to be "accompanied" at present... and I'll stop at that!WinkTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:28
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by FishyMonkey FishyMonkey wrote:

Remedy Lane, one sided? Please. True, it deals with the torment of one person, and BE is very complicated. Be does have a good concept, but Gildenlow seems to have forgotten about making good music in the process. It's practically 75% concept, 25% music.

    
The music that is available on that album owns anything on Remedy Lane. Remedy Lane does have its moments, its just overrated and very dull compared to other PoS releases. Only Entropia is weaker IMO.

I agree with Bluesaga, The BE DVD does own the BE studio album. Gildenlow's presence is just too heavy in the dvd to forget about it


All a matter of opinion. I like Entropia a lot, it's my third favorite PoS release. So schizophrenic and awesome. I do agree that the BE DVD is amazing, though. Like I said, it's all opinions. I happen to love Remedy Lane, and hate BE. Woo.
    
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