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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 00:44
Ok, since you two are hands down my favorite non-Dream Theater loving posters on this bored I'll give a quick rundown of every album.
 
When Dream and Day Unite- Sounds like Rush with more of a metal edge, a few cool songs, but it has the least musical quality.  I will admit the bass tone is not up to snuff.
 
Images and  Words- Best selling album, it actually sold gold which is very rare for a prog metal album.  This album really gave the Progressive Metal genre a push.  It's a complete improvement from When Dream and Day Unite.  There's too much w**king in some songs, but I highly reccomend "Learning to Live" which I believe should have universal appeal.  The only drawback of this album is the triggered snare comes off as cheesey, good thing they ditched that after this album.
 
Awake- My second favorite Dream Theater album, has three killer songs "A Mind Besides Itself", "Scarred", and "Space Dye Vest".  I can't see what is not too like about those three songs.  The only drawback is "The Mirror" and "Lie" two songs I can honestly admit are subpar for Dream Theater's standards.
 
Falling Into Infinity- Poppy but not cheesey, but Dream Theater had tight strings attached by Elektra from this album.  There are some timeless songs like "Lines in the Sand" and "Trial of Tears", but this is sadly one of Dream Theater's darkest hours.  I would really have loved to see what they would have done if they had full control  Mike Portnoy stated a twenty-five minute epic was in the works, but Elektra never let it come to be.
 
Scenes From a Memory- The most important album of their career.  No individual songs standout, but this is album where the entire album is magic.  Single songs are not reccomended, but the album as a whole is.  The musical acrobatics that Dream Theater is known more is most upfront on this album.  It is a turn off to some, but I personally love it, as do many Dream Theater fans.

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- Brilliant start to finish, and is without a doubt my favorite Dream Theater album.  The tones are perfect.  The first disc is very experimental with excellent songs like "The Great Debate", "Blind Faith", Misunderstood", and "Disappear" argueably the most unique song in Dream Theater's catalogue.  "The Glass Prison" is polarizing.  The second disc is a fourty-two minute epic, which is just musical heaven.  Not as well acclaimed as other Dream Theater albums, but it's so hard to describe.  It isn't heavy, but it isn't exactly soft.  It is it's own thing in my opinion.
 
Train of Thought- Deceptively more progressive with each later track.  Falls more on the metal side, so I wouldn't reccomend it for fans of softer prog.
 
Octavarium- This album is all about "Sacrificed Sons" and the title track.  There isn't as much technical skill, but this album is structured a little poppy towards the beginning.  Not highly reccomended, but there's less musical acrobatics on this album.  Influences are very apparent.
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 00:48
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Ok, since you two are hands down my favorite non-Dream Theater loving posters on this bored I'll give a quick rundown of every album.
 
When Dream and Day Unite- Sounds like Rush with more of a metal edge, a few cool songs, but it has the least musical quality.  I will admit the bass tone is not up to snuff.
 
Images and  Words- Best selling album, it actually sold gold which is very rare for a prog metal album.  This album really gave the Progressive Metal genre a push.  It's a complete improvement from When Dream and Day Unite.  There's too much w**king in some songs, but I highly reccomend "Learning to Live" which I believe should have universal appeal.  The only drawback of this album is the triggered snare comes off as cheesey, good thing they ditched that after this album.
 
Awake- My second favorite Dream Theater album, has three killer songs "A Mind Besides Itself", "Scarred", and "Space Dye Vest".  I can't see what is not too like about those three songs.  The only drawback is "The Mirror" and "Lie" two songs I can honestly admit are subpar for Dream Theater's standards.
 
Falling Into Infinity- Poppy but not cheesey, but Dream Theater had tight strings attached by Elektra from this album.  There are some timeless songs like "Lines in the Sand" and "Trial of Tears", but this is sadly one of Dream Theater's darkest hours.  I would really have loved to see what they would have done if they had full control  Mike Portnoy stated a twenty-five minute epic was in the works, but Elektra never let it come to be.
 
Scenes From a Memory- The most important album of their career.  No individual songs standout, but this is album where the entire album is magic.  Single songs are not reccomended, but the album as a whole is.  The musical acrobatics that Dream Theater is known more is most upfront on this album.  It is a turn off to some, but I personally love it, as do many Dream Theater fans.

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- Brilliant start to finish, and is without a doubt my favorite Dream Theater album.  The tones are perfect.  The first disc is very experimental with excellent songs like "The Great Debate", "Blind Faith", Misunderstood", and "Disappear" argueably the most unique song in Dream Theater's catalogue.  "The Glass Prison" is polarizing.  The second disc is a fourty-two minute epic, which is just musical heaven.  Not as well acclaimed as other Dream Theater albums, but it's so hard to describe.  It isn't heavy, but it isn't exactly soft.  It is it's own thing in my opinion.
 
Train of Thought- Deceptively more progressive with each later track.  Falls more on the metal side, so I wouldn't reccomend it for fans of softer prog.
 
Octavarium- This album is all about "Sacrificed Sons" and the title track.  There isn't as much technical skill, but this album is structured a little poppy towards the beginning.  Not highly reccomended, but there's less musical acrobatics on this album.  Influences are very apparent.
 
 


awesome....  well the album I do have appears to be the one I need to have... I will listen to it tomorrow and share my thoughts. This time I really will ahhaha
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 02:57
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Ok, since you two are hands down my favorite non-Dream Theater loving posters on this bored I'll give a quick rundown of every album.
 
When Dream and Day Unite- Sounds like Rush with more of a metal edge, a few cool songs, but it has the least musical quality.  I will admit the bass tone is not up to snuff.
 
Images and  Words- Best selling album, it actually sold gold which is very rare for a prog metal album.  This album really gave the Progressive Metal genre a push.  It's a complete improvement from When Dream and Day Unite.  There's too much w**king in some songs, but I highly reccomend "Learning to Live" which I believe should have universal appeal.  The only drawback of this album is the triggered snare comes off as cheesey, good thing they ditched that after this album.
 
Awake- My second favorite Dream Theater album, has three killer songs "A Mind Besides Itself", "Scarred", and "Space Dye Vest".  I can't see what is not too like about those three songs.  The only drawback is "The Mirror" and "Lie" two songs I can honestly admit are subpar for Dream Theater's standards.
 
Falling Into Infinity- Poppy but not cheesey, but Dream Theater had tight strings attached by Elektra from this album.  There are some timeless songs like "Lines in the Sand" and "Trial of Tears", but this is sadly one of Dream Theater's darkest hours.  I would really have loved to see what they would have done if they had full control  Mike Portnoy stated a twenty-five minute epic was in the works, but Elektra never let it come to be.
 
Scenes From a Memory- The most important album of their career.  No individual songs standout, but this is album where the entire album is magic.  Single songs are not reccomended, but the album as a whole is.  The musical acrobatics that Dream Theater is known more is most upfront on this album.  It is a turn off to some, but I personally love it, as do many Dream Theater fans.

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- Brilliant start to finish, and is without a doubt my favorite Dream Theater album.  The tones are perfect.  The first disc is very experimental with excellent songs like "The Great Debate", "Blind Faith", Misunderstood", and "Disappear" argueably the most unique song in Dream Theater's catalogue.  "The Glass Prison" is polarizing.  The second disc is a fourty-two minute epic, which is just musical heaven.  Not as well acclaimed as other Dream Theater albums, but it's so hard to describe.  It isn't heavy, but it isn't exactly soft.  It is it's own thing in my opinion.
 
Train of Thought- Deceptively more progressive with each later track.  Falls more on the metal side, so I wouldn't reccomend it for fans of softer prog.
 
Octavarium- This album is all about "Sacrificed Sons" and the title track.  There isn't as much technical skill, but this album is structured a little poppy towards the beginning.  Not highly reccomended, but there's less musical acrobatics on this album.  Influences are very apparent.
 
 


awesome....  well the album I do have appears to be the one I need to have... I will listen to it tomorrow and share my thoughts. This time I really will ahhaha
 
ha ha ha, I am looking forward to your thoughts on this. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 04:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 07:31
A Change of Seasons by far.
 
I would like to note that in my opinion A Change of Seasons is in my opinion the best song by Dream Theater and Im surprised AtLossForWords completly ignored it in the "quick rundown".
In fact this is the song which has the least "Musical Acrobatics", except for one very technical unison which is completly in good taste, in fact it is humoristic (Especially on live shows). This song also features the best vocals IMO, The best drumming. He plays like a fusion drummer on this song, not like a "super technical prog metal drummer". The way Portnoy communicates with the other instruments on ACOS is just awe inspiring. Also this song features the best "killer riffs" including a fantastic riff towards the beginning of the song in a time signature of 17/16 (the gesture to Erotomania), and many, many, many more mind blowing riffs.. Also, my favorite Petrucci solo appears on 17:18 of A Change of Seasons. Don't judge Petrucci before you hear this solo (in 7/4), or actually, all of ACOS. The entire song features no shredding solos whatsoever, and he just plays like a master throughout.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 08:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 08:38
Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Ok, since you two are hands down my favorite non-Dream Theater loving posters on this bored I'll give a quick rundown of every album.
 
When Dream and Day Unite- Sounds like Rush with more of a metal edge, a few cool songs, but it has the least musical quality.  I will admit the bass tone is not up to snuff.
 
Images and  Words- Best selling album, it actually sold gold which is very rare for a prog metal album.  This album really gave the Progressive Metal genre a push.  It's a complete improvement from When Dream and Day Unite.  There's too much w**king in some songs, but I highly reccomend "Learning to Live" which I believe should have universal appeal.  The only drawback of this album is the triggered snare comes off as cheesey, good thing they ditched that after this album.
 
Awake- My second favorite Dream Theater album, has three killer songs "A Mind Besides Itself", "Scarred", and "Space Dye Vest".  I can't see what is not too like about those three songs.  The only drawback is "The Mirror" and "Lie" two songs I can honestly admit are subpar for Dream Theater's standards.
 
Falling Into Infinity- Poppy but not cheesey, but Dream Theater had tight strings attached by Elektra from this album.  There are some timeless songs like "Lines in the Sand" and "Trial of Tears", but this is sadly one of Dream Theater's darkest hours.  I would really have loved to see what they would have done if they had full control  Mike Portnoy stated a twenty-five minute epic was in the works, but Elektra never let it come to be.
 
Scenes From a Memory- The most important album of their career.  No individual songs standout, but this is album where the entire album is magic.  Single songs are not reccomended, but the album as a whole is.  The musical acrobatics that Dream Theater is known more is most upfront on this album.  It is a turn off to some, but I personally love it, as do many Dream Theater fans.

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- Brilliant start to finish, and is without a doubt my favorite Dream Theater album.  The tones are perfect.  The first disc is very experimental with excellent songs like "The Great Debate", "Blind Faith", Misunderstood", and "Disappear" argueably the most unique song in Dream Theater's catalogue.  "The Glass Prison" is polarizing.  The second disc is a fourty-two minute epic, which is just musical heaven.  Not as well acclaimed as other Dream Theater albums, but it's so hard to describe.  It isn't heavy, but it isn't exactly soft.  It is it's own thing in my opinion.
 
Train of Thought- Deceptively more progressive with each later track.  Falls more on the metal side, so I wouldn't reccomend it for fans of softer prog.
 
Octavarium- This album is all about "Sacrificed Sons" and the title track.  There isn't as much technical skill, but this album is structured a little poppy towards the beginning.  Not highly reccomended, but there's less musical acrobatics on this album.  Influences are very apparent.
 
 


awesome....  well the album I do have appears to be the one I need to have... I will listen to it tomorrow and share my thoughts. This time I really will ahhaha
 
ha ha ha, I am looking forward to your thoughts on this. Smile


yes at the risk of causing dissent and rancor in the symphonic team.. I will listen to it today... God helpe me though... if I should actually like it. Confused hahah


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 10:52
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Ok, since you two are hands down my favorite non-Dream Theater loving posters on this bored I'll give a quick rundown of every album.
 
When Dream and Day Unite- Sounds like Rush with more of a metal edge, a few cool songs, but it has the least musical quality.  I will admit the bass tone is not up to snuff.
 
Images and  Words- Best selling album, it actually sold gold which is very rare for a prog metal album.  This album really gave the Progressive Metal genre a push.  It's a complete improvement from When Dream and Day Unite.  There's too much w**king in some songs, but I highly reccomend "Learning to Live" which I believe should have universal appeal.  The only drawback of this album is the triggered snare comes off as cheesey, good thing they ditched that after this album.
 
Awake- My second favorite Dream Theater album, has three killer songs "A Mind Besides Itself", "Scarred", and "Space Dye Vest".  I can't see what is not too like about those three songs.  The only drawback is "The Mirror" and "Lie" two songs I can honestly admit are subpar for Dream Theater's standards.
 
Falling Into Infinity- Poppy but not cheesey, but Dream Theater had tight strings attached by Elektra from this album.  There are some timeless songs like "Lines in the Sand" and "Trial of Tears", but this is sadly one of Dream Theater's darkest hours.  I would really have loved to see what they would have done if they had full control  Mike Portnoy stated a twenty-five minute epic was in the works, but Elektra never let it come to be.
 
Scenes From a Memory- The most important album of their career.  No individual songs standout, but this is album where the entire album is magic.  Single songs are not reccomended, but the album as a whole is.  The musical acrobatics that Dream Theater is known more is most upfront on this album.  It is a turn off to some, but I personally love it, as do many Dream Theater fans.

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence- Brilliant start to finish, and is without a doubt my favorite Dream Theater album.  The tones are perfect.  The first disc is very experimental with excellent songs like "The Great Debate", "Blind Faith", Misunderstood", and "Disappear" argueably the most unique song in Dream Theater's catalogue.  "The Glass Prison" is polarizing.  The second disc is a fourty-two minute epic, which is just musical heaven.  Not as well acclaimed as other Dream Theater albums, but it's so hard to describe.  It isn't heavy, but it isn't exactly soft.  It is it's own thing in my opinion.
 
Train of Thought- Deceptively more progressive with each later track.  Falls more on the metal side, so I wouldn't reccomend it for fans of softer prog.
 
Octavarium- This album is all about "Sacrificed Sons" and the title track.  There isn't as much technical skill, but this album is structured a little poppy towards the beginning.  Not highly reccomended, but there's less musical acrobatics on this album.  Influences are very apparent.
 
 


awesome....  well the album I do have appears to be the one I need to have... I will listen to it tomorrow and share my thoughts. This time I really will ahhaha
 
ha ha ha, I am looking forward to your thoughts on this. Smile


yes at the risk of causing dissent and rancor in the symphonic team.. I will listen to it today... God helpe me though... if I should actually like it. Confused hahah
 
I too am eager to hear your thoughts on it. I'll be waiting.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 10:54
Has any of you ever heard of the Delete button when you quote? Those pyramids are next to illegible....Wink

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Why do you run for cover after each post, mister Ghost Rider?

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Why do you run for cover after each post, mister Ghost Rider?

 
Opps Ouch. I bet she might forgive you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:12
Yes, I'm a she...Wink Why do I run for cover? It's a kind of a joke between me and some of my friends here on the forum... In this specific circumstance, between me and my fellow symphonic team partner.Tongue In most other cases, it happens whenever I dis DT... but by now no one gets offended any more!
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I'm seriously fed up with the gratuitous Dream Theater hating on this site. Even though they're terribly over-rated and much of their discography is fairly uninteresting, they have made at least two very good albums, Images and Words and Awake, and they have been influential both in and outside the Prog Metal genre. Even if one doesn't like them, they deserve respect, because they are skilled musicians and composers, even though they tend to be excessively wanky far too often for their own good. Please try to acknowledge the two good (and important) albums that they have made.

I realise that I might sound like a fanboy, but believe me, most of DT's albums disappoint me aswell, except for the two I mentioned above, which are good and deserve respect.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:49
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

I'm seriously fed up with the gratuitous Dream Theater hating on this site. Even though they're terribly over-rated and much of their discography is fairly uninteresting, they have made at least two very good albums, Images and Words and Awake, and they have been influential both in and outside the Prog Metal genre. Even if one doesn't like them, they deserve respect, because they are skilled musicians and composers, even though they tend to be excessively wanky far too often for their own good. Please try to acknowledge the two good (and important) albums that they have made.

I realise that I might sound like a fanboy, but believe me, most of DT's albums disappoint me aswell, except for the two I mentioned above, which are good and deserve respect.



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well you do sound like a fanboy... but we like you anyway...

Great! Smile

It's very hard not to sound like a fanboy when posting something like that. But I actually have a really hard time with most of DT's work, except for those two albums, which I find enjoyable. Their other albums always lacks something at some point, but even the worst ones have their moments aswell, and it's those moments, together with Images and Words and Awake, that make Dream Theater a band worth respecting.

Check out my post in the "remove the vocalist" (or whatever it was called) poll. No fanboy would say something like that. Wink


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Train of Thought was LaBrie's low point as a vocalist. He's much better on Octavarium.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2006 at 15:52
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Train of Thought was LaBrie's low point as a vocalist. He's much better on Octavarium.


And to think I found him rather tolerable on ToT... True, he sounded a bit like James Hetfield, but it was better than hear him shriek as on "Once in a Livetime"Dead.
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I love them all!
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I love them all!
 
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