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The Lost Chord
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Topic: Who are the Big 5 supergroups? Posted: July 25 2006 at 20:47 |
inspired by rush topic...thought this was curious, i consider alot of prog bands to be super prog, whether i like em or not.
YES
ELP
Genesis
Moody Blues
Tull
Rush
probly forgot a few...but who exactly are the big 5?
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 20:51 |
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
ELP
Gentle Giant
These are the founding fathers.....
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Bionic Commando
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 20:57 |
Genesis, Yes, ELP, Dream Theater, Pink Floyd.
Those are my big five anyway.
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Proghat
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:15 |
Pink Floyd
Rush
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
I'm actually fairly certain that the above list is nigh undipsutable
(although GG and Tull could easily be on there as well.) As for MY top
5 supergroups:
Dream Theater
Camel
Rush
ELP
Transatlantic
But I don't really know what qualifies as a "supergroup". I also
need to mention that I love Yes, KC and PF, but I like DT, Camel, Rush,
ELP and Transatlantic just a smidge better. I also love Caravan, Return
To Forever and Spock's Beard, but I don't think that they're
necessarily supergroups (they're close, however.)
Edited by Proghat - July 25 2006 at 21:16
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Losendos
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:29 |
I don't know if their is a logical reason to ask for the big as against big 4 or big but here are my observations.
Yes Genesis and Pink Floyd are the big 3 that seem to vie for best prog band ever.
The argument for Yes is that at their best there is noone better and the individual talents of it's members.
The argument for Floyd is their popularity fame and records sold.
The argument for Genesis is that they have sold almost as well as Floyd, they have spawned popular solo acts and have the best discography
Yapping at the heels of the big 3 are King Crimson that really got the genre started, ELP ( unfortunately their dreadful decline post works vol 1has given amnesia to how huge they were in their heyday ),the Moody Blues, Dream Theatre and Jethro Tull.
Others may put up their personal favorites but generally these are the big acts.
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akin
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:45 |
The considered Big 5 are Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull and ELP.
But there is no use in talking of a "Big 5" when we have at least 20
major prog acts.
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majicray2112
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:51 |
My top five so far are: King Crimson, Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Pink Floyd, and Dream Theater. But I'm still looking
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Aaron
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:52 |
i feel like this should be easy
i think it may have more to do with popularity and impact on prog rock
so...
Yes
Genesis
Pink Floyd
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
i think ELP is out because that band is completely forgotten among most people
Yes and Genesis for obvious reasons, Pink Floyd just because they are huge... and pretty good, Jethro Tull is quite diverse and has opened the doors for many people into stranger music, King Crimson is one of those bands where, when you find them, they are never forgotten, huge music,
Aaron
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 21:54 |
I don't know how you could put Moody Blues into the mix. They're proto-prog and never made the leap into full blown prog. Let alone enough to consider them one of the big five. Also, Dream Theater started in the mid 80's far removed from the begining of the prog-movement.
King Crimson - Started the whole thing
ELP
Pink Floyd
Yes
Genesis
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 22:06 |
Difficult, but none of the usual suspects for me. Perhaps Gong,
Hawkwind, Van der Graaf Generator, Magma and Amon Düül 2. But Embryo,
Can, Guru Guru, King Crimson or the Residents are close contenders and
might be named by me on another day. Or some other artist I just don't
think of at the moment. In any way, definitely not the usual suspects,
with the exception of King Crimson.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 22:20 |
I've got to go with Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and ELP. You could mix it up alittle. Maybe put Rush in there, but I don't know who I would take out. These have to be the five most important groups in prog. Just my opinion of course, but I bet there could be a strong argument made for these five.
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Lex C
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 22:42 |
Changes with Time
70s - Yes King Crimson Jethro Tull Genisis Pink Floyd 80s - (my knowledge here is scarce) Zappa, Rush + 3 more 90s to Present The Mars Volta Tool Meshuggah Opeth Dream Theater
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 22:42 |
I thought it was six?
Usually the six are:
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
Pink Floyd
ELP
Jethro Tull
but personally? I don't know what five I would pick, there are just too many great bands/artists out there.
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 22:49 |
Yes, Genesis, ELP, KC, Floyd.
Honorable mentions: Tull, GG, Rush.
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ProgLucky
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:02 |
My top BIG 5 supergroups is:
KING CRIMSON marked the birth of a mature and extremely aggressive ''progressive'' sound (psychedelic with symphonic, electronic, experimental jazz, and even metal and folk).
Pink Floyd (psychedelic & space rock)
Jethro Tull (folk prog) Rush (progenitors of progressive metal)
Marillion (NEO PROGressive or the prog of the new wave)
''Progressive Rock is a music made for the dreams, the escape, to feel a multitude of emotions''.
Ronald Couture - ProgLucky (founder of ProgArchives.com)
Quebec, CANADA
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Lex C
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:03 |
OOOO This is a very good topic we have the founder's response All hail
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ProgLucky
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:08 |
Don't forget ...
I speak in French..... very bad in English language
''All intelligent listeners should be made aware of the wonders of this style!''
REFERENCE: FreeSon Rock (Montreal, CANADA
My love to you all :-)
Keep on proggin!
Ronald Couture
Quebec, CANADA
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kebjourman
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:09 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Difficult, but none of the usual suspects for me. Perhaps Gong, Hawkwind, Van der Graaf Generator, Magma and Amon Düül 2. But Embryo, Can, Guru Guru, King Crimson or the Residents are close contenders and might be named by me on another day. Or some other artist I just don't think of at the moment. In any way, definitely not the usual suspects, with the exception of King Crimson.
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i like your taste
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mgallard
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:12 |
Without reading the prior posts: 1- Genesis 2- Pink Floyd 3- Frank Zappa 4- Yes 5- Marillion
Mogens
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mgallard
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:19 |
ProgLucky wrote:
My top BIG 5 supergroups is:
KING CRIMSON marked the birth of a mature and extremely aggressive ''progressive'' sound (psychedelic with symphonic, electronic, experimental jazz, and even metal and folk).
Pink Floyd (psychedelic & space rock)
Jethro Tull (folk prog) Rush (progenitors of progressive metal)
Marillion (NEO PROGressive or the prog of the new wave |
Without Genesis neither Marillion nor Rush would have existed (though Rush has a lot of Led Zeppelin influence too). I find it surprising that you did not include Genesis, that's all :-) don't like them? Ave Proglucky, great site. Mogens
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