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Poll Question: Inckuded Journey on Prog Related?
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Early stuff by Journey was prog rock , then Steve Perry joined and they changed a bit , more into AOR  but at times still progressive ... Journey should definitely be prog related any respectable site with members with even average IQ`s would tell you that    If they are not here (which I havent checked) it makes this site look less than awake
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first album (and the lesser second) might fit in for sure, but then the rest of is crap
let's just stay above the moral melee
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

first album (and the lesser second) might fit in for sure, but then the rest of is crap


not for me.
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NO! Journey plagued my existence all through the eighties with lame MOR non music!  We might as well bring back Billy Joel  or Air Supply. Steve Perry was much better at posturing and creating longing facial expression than any of the sounds he made! It's a wonder they never hired a dance choreographer! I just can't forgive them .
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Just for their first album???

NO!!!
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Early Journey, Yes.

Later Journey (Steve Perry era) - pure pop, NO, No, no.
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Especially early Journey, but the later Journey not so much but they are sometimes a little bit prog
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YEAH,LISTEN PEOPLE AND PLACES ETC ETC.
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I don't know... That's not a too traveled journey for me....
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Originally posted by markosherrera markosherrera wrote:

YEAH,LISTEN PEOPLE AND PLACES ETC ETC.


Yeah. That is a fantastic track Clap
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can we just include the first 2 or 3 in the archives and forget the rest? I think alot of artists should be in here, but only their PROGressive period represented, i/e Santana early part as Prog Related, Bowies progressive mid period as Prog Related, Eno's progressive early career, as Prog, etc. If a band made a Progressive Rock album it should be represented in the archives probably under prog related, but the rest of their discography should not appear here! This is a prog rock site and you dont owe the artist full inclusion of their discography. You do owe the public the inclusion of ALL progressive rock albums/CDs though, IMO!
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The site policy is that if a band is added to the site, their full discography is listed DB.
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The first three Journey albums are very much Prog, and are more "prog related" than a lot of bands featured on this site. These particular albums are very symphonic, elongated, experimental, and psychedelic. It's like Pink Floyd having sex with Yes while Led Zeppelin videotapes it for Kansas's viewing pleasure. In fact, Kansas lifted the riff to "Carry On Wayward Son" from Journey's "I'm Gonna Leave You", and Rush ripped off instrumental bits to "Tom Sawyer" from Journey's "Nickel & Dime."
 
Sprinkled throughout their AOR phase, there are plenty of tracks that have Prog qualities, several per album in fact. Far more progressive than Triumph, for sure. Their AOR material is also superior in quality to latter-day releases by Yes and Genesis, two "Holy Grail of Prog" bands. Journey had just as many "true prog" albums as Styx, and just as many AOR albums, yet Styx is on the site as Prog Related and Journey isn't.
 
Journey has been cited as at least a partial influence to several Prog bands and/or their members, such as Dream Theater, Queensryche, Symphony X, Jan Hammer, Asia, and Marillion.
 
Neal Schon, guitar genius, blends melody and technical versatility well. Highly underrated, played with Santana, worked with Jan Hammer.... Gregg Rolie, keyboards/vocals, one of the MVPs of classic Santana.... Aynsley Dunbar, drums, played with Frank Zappa, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, Jeff Beck Group, and several other acts... Steve Smith, drums, is a famed jazz fusion percussionist and exemplifies amazing skinswork with Journey..
 
Without listing the first three albums (Undeniably Prog!!) I'm going to list songs from every album with progressive qualities. Complex structures and composition, fantasy/science fiction themes and quality concepts, technical instrumentalists who combine passion and dexterity, having been influenced by and influenced in turn multiple prog acts, extended song lengths and concept suites, changes in key and tempo and time signature, lots of the prog qualities are here....
 
INFINITY-
 
"Wheel in the Sky"
"Patiently"
"Winds of March"
"Somethin' to Hide"
"Opened the Door"
 
EVOLUTION-
 
"Sweet and Simple"
"Lady Luck"
"Daydream"
 
DEPARTURE-
 
"Walks Like A Lady"
"Someday Soon"
"People and Places"
"Precious Time"
"Departure"
"I'm Cryin'"
 
The ENTIRE "Dream after Dream" album (Hearkens back to their prog days, very symphonic/folksy and experimental. Probably their most Prog work yet)
 
ESCAPE-
 
"Escape"
"Mother, Father"
"Who's Crying Now"
"Still they Ride"
 
FRONTIERS-
 
"Edge of the Blade"
"Troubled Child"
"Back Talk"
"Frontiers"
"Rubicon"
 
RAISED ON RADIO-
 
no prog, although it was a concept album
 
TRIAL BY FIRE-
 
"Message of Love"
"One More"
"Castles Burning"
"Still She Cries"
"Colors of the Spirit"
"Can't Tame The Lion"
"Baby I'm A Leavin' You"
"Trial by Fire"
 
ARRIVAL-
 
"Higher Place"
"All the Things"
"Livin' to Do"
"Live and Breathe"
"Kiss Me Softly"
 
The ENTIRE Red 13 EP is prog, no question....
 
GENERATIONS-
 
"Faith in the Heartland"
"A Better Life"
"Out of Harms Way"
"Beyond the Clouds"
 
 
 
So, at LEAST 30% of nearly every album after the first three are Prog or Prog-Influenced, some more than half... and the only album with no progressive qualities is a concept album!!
 
 
 
I feel that if Triumph, Asia, Styx, Alan Parsons Project, and Santana merit inclusion on PA for being prog-related... then so do Journey. At least an entry for "Journey (Pre-Perry)" and their first three albums would suffice...
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If anyone is ready to do the work required to add them, let me know and I will get a final decision from the Admin team. Do not actually do any work meanwhile of course, in case they are rejected.
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I'm willing to help out with the band bio and album descriptions and such.
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OK, I'll ask the Admin team for a decision.
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

OK, I'll ask the Admin team for a decision.


seems fair enough.... seems like a cut and dried case for PR..
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