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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 02:09
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

NOTE: I obtained the photos from the page you say, but I don't know who placed it on that page, and don't try to denythe photo has been cutted (By David maybe) because there's no doubt.

Iván

Listen my friend! I put those pictures on that site because I cannot upload pictures here in the forum. Still I don't get it why you think the picture was cut. I am trying hard to understand you, but I can't. I will post these pictures in another thread asking computer experts here to tell you if it is changed or cut or what ever!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 02:11
  1. Is the page from the album complete??????
  2. Is the ATLANTIC SEAL complete??????????
  3. Can the serial number be seen?????
  4. Isn't that the exact text in all the central art covers of all UK Fragile editions???? 

If you don't get it, you don't want to see it, this photo has been manipulated and without a serial number or copyright data it has no value.

Good Bye.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 02:26
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

  1. Is the page from the album complete?????? YES
  2. Is the ATLANTIC SEAL complete??????????  YES
  3. Can the serial number be seen????? YES
  4. Isn't that the exact text in all the central art covers of all UK Fragile editions???? I don't know, I haven't seen any, so what?

If you don't get it, you don't want to see it, this photo has been manipulated and without a serial number or copyright data it has no value. Sorry, that's what you think, and it's a free world, think as you wish

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 03:40
Originally posted by Gomah Gomah wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

  1. Is the page from the album complete?????? YES (False, there's not the songlist, copyright, the name of the album neither the RELEASE  date)
  2. Is the ATLANTIC SEAL complete??????????  YES (Are you blind)
  3. Can the serial number be seen????? YES (False, nothing can be seen - I'm talking about the second photo)
  4. Isn't that the exact text in all the central art covers of all UK Fragile editions???? I don't know, I haven't seen any, so what? (I have 5 different editions and all are the same except the mention of UK and the serial number which can't be seen)

Just in case and to prove now you're "WRONG":

Fragile Liner

tHIS IS YOUR PHOTO COPIED FROM YOUR POST: Incomplete page, no song list, no name of the album, incomplete Atlantic seal, no serial number.

If you say the contrary, hen you're lying.

You just used the same photo than 31 of December 2005 and a partial copy of the centerfold THAT SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NOTHING

If you don't get it, you don't want to see it, this photo has been manipulated and without a serial number or copyright data it has no value. Sorry, that's what you think, and it's a free world, think as you wish

Good Bye.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 04:11
As i said in a previous thread the sleeve says when it was recorded and copyrighted but not when it was released which im guessing you are discussing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 04:27
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

  1. Is the page from the album complete?????? YES (False, there's not the songlist, copyright, the name of the album neither the RELEASE  date)
  2. Is the ATLANTIC SEAL complete??????????  YES (Are you blind)
  3. Can the serial number be seen????? YES (False, nothing can be seen - I'm talking about the second photo)
  4. Isn't that the exact text in all the central art covers of all UK Fragile editions???? I don't know, I haven't seen any, so what? (I have 5 different editions and all are the same except the mention of UK and the serial number which can't be seen)

Just in case and to prove now you're "WRONG":

Fragile Liner

tHIS IS YOUR PHOTO COPIED FROM YOUR POST: Incomplete page, no song list, no name of the album, incomplete Atlantic seal, no serial number.

If you say the contrary, hen you're lying.

You just used the same photo than 31 of December 2005 and a partial copy of the centerfold THAT SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NOTHING

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  1. Song list and the rest may be on other pages, so what?
  2. Well, are you kidding me or what? Have you seen your optician lately? If not please do.
    • I see a complete Atlantic seal there which looks like these:
  3. If you mean 2401 019 Deluxe, yes I see it clearly below Atlantic seal and it goes down to mention MARKETED BY POLYDOR. 
  4. Enough said on that

You cannot just make some false claims and say if I say the contrary I am lying. That doesn't make sense and along with your next sentence shows how desparate you are and how funny you can be. I said enough about origin of the pictures and I think it's time you take some computer and photography courses, never too late to learn.

 

BTW: Are you sure you're not making fun of me or trying to make me nervous by saying you see a white strip below Atlantic seal? If that is the case then let me tell you that I don't get bothered easily. And if you really mean it, maybe there is a problem with your computer!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 04:44

The original picture:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 05:01

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 05:35

By the way this discussion is getting unecessarily heated (one wonders why...) so here's a special pressing...get the message?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 12:40
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

The original picture:

That's good, at least I posted the liner note here for you guys to put on your photoalbums around the world, thank you!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2006 at 15:15

Now this is Tony R complete Photo, maybe theres a trouble with Gomah's, because anything under the Atlantic seal can't be seen, only a hige blank space, I have even posted, and honestly GOMAH I can't see anything under the Atlanric seal. (Still is not complete because the songlist is right over the notes).

If it's a PC problem, I'm sorry Gomah, but that's what I see still in your photo, a wide white stripe under 50% of the word Atlantic, not joking Gomah, I don't have a sense of humor .

But on the otther hand I see the whole tony R and Lindsay photo.

The only problem is Recorded in 1772???  

Anyway, I can't see any express liner note that actually says it has been released in 1971, so still I insist with the literal quotes from the 7 official sites and the Yes History book that expressly mention 1972 as release date.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2006 at 04:51
Blimey, this is getting a bit heated!

On my copy of Fragile (CD from 2002) it says it was recorded at Advision September 1971, but that copyright (c) in sleeve drawings, photos, logos is 1972. Presumably therefore a 1972 release....though I must admit I had always thought it was 1971 but there you go...though copyright can be renewed of course.

I do have the original Fragile booklet from the vinyl record at home I'll see what it says, but the LP cover is sadly long gone!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 04:18

So the moral of the story: Fragile was released in November 1971 in UK.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 11:44
Originally posted by Gomah Gomah wrote:

So the moral of the story: Fragile was released in November 1971 in UK.




hahahahah I thought this thread was dead and buried. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 12:18
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

nursery cryme 100%...it is one of my favourite albums,containing one of my favourite piece,from Genesis and prog...


I really agree with that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 15:44

Im a way bigger Genesis fan, than Yes fan, but Nursery Cryme isn't Genesis's best work (try Trespass or Foxtrot). So I would reluctantly opt for Fragile if given a choice. 

 

Granted. The Musical Box is the only piece of music on NC that makes it a good album, other than that its dismal

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 16:21

Originally posted by GPFR GPFR wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

nursery cryme 100%...it is one of my favourite albums,containing one of my favourite piece,from Genesis and prog...


I really agree with that.

I couldn't choose between "Nursery Cryme", "Foxtrot" or "Selling England...". They're all stunning masterpieces of Prog Rock.

I don't like Yes, so "Nursery Cryme" is a no-brainer

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 12:13
Nursery is more more more more and MORE intimate and profound album than Fragile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2006 at 10:00
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2006 at 10:12
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Fragile by miles, stronger songs, better atmosphere, just SOUNDS better. Nursery cryme's shabby production and weak tracks bring it down too much. Fragile is the clear winner

Same thoughts here.I also like the individual pieces on the album,which I have noticed a lot of people on here don't.All the full songs on the album are incredible.

Nursery Cryme has great songs,but,as I have stated before about it,the terrible production somewhat spoils it for me.



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