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Olympus 
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 Posted: December 24 2005 at 02:05 |
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elo yes queen no
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I couldn't agree more, queen is good but they are not prog.
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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progaeopteryx
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Posted: December 31 2005 at 15:19 |
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Once you let in bands like Deep Purple, Asia, Queen, Styx, Ambrosia, Alan Parsons Project, and even Supertramp into the Archives, you've opened the door for other similar acts. ELO clearly falls into this group. Their first three are easily symphonic prog, the next two are a mix of symphonic prog and art rock. From there on it's mostly pop rock with some prog tendencies on a few songs. I don't see much difference between this amount of prog in ELO's career and the amount in the above mentioned bands.
Furthermore, ELO made it into the GEPR and is listed in Jerry Lucky's discography in The Progressive Rock Files, updated ed. issued in 2000.
To me, ELO's entry is a no brainer.
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: December 31 2005 at 15:26 |
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I actually bought the essential ELO collection recently. I
remember them from my early childhood days since my uncle was a huge
Olivia Newton John fan (mainly Xanadu).
Anyway, after going through that disc, there weren't very many songs I
would call prog. It was more straightforward arena rock to me
mainly geared for commercial purposes.
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fcoulter
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Posted: January 01 2006 at 17:15 |
HeirToRuin wrote:
I actually bought the essential ELO collection recently. I remember them from my early childhood days since my uncle was a huge Olivia Newton John fan (mainly Xanadu).
Anyway, after going through that disc, there weren't very many songs I would call prog. It was more straightforward arena rock to me mainly geared for commercial purposes.
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Most "essential" collections are far more interested in marketability than being a good overview of the band. Are any songs on this collection from ELO's first album?
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Phil
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Posted: January 01 2006 at 18:44 |
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Noooooooooo!!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 01 2006 at 19:00 |
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I will submit ELO as a possibility for the Archives, and let the process of band inclusion take its course.
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transend
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Posted: January 01 2006 at 20:32 |
ELO??? yeah of course....
They did a concept album with an orchestra ....and some wonderful proggy songs elsewhere, even their 80's album 'Time' was cheesy sounding but a concept album...
WAY more proggy than:
Queen, Radiohead, Messhuggah, Tool etc etc...
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Lambskin
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Posted: January 01 2006 at 22:54 |
Realy depends on which "Prog-expert" you ask. 
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Kotro
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Posted: January 02 2006 at 07:04 |
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ELO deserves to be here as much as Queen, Meatloaf and Jethro Tull.
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Bigger on the inside.
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Posted: January 02 2006 at 08:31 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I will submit ELO as a possibility for the Archives,
and let the process of band inclusion take its course. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 00:20 |
Kotro wrote:
ELO deserves to be here as much as Queen, Meatloaf and Jethro Tull. |
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Kotro
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 04:39 |
Not really...
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Bigger on the inside.
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The Rock
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 10:35 |
A HUGE AND RESOUNDING YES!!!!
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XTChuck
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Posted: January 03 2006 at 10:41 |
The first two ELO albums are most definitely prog. If you haven't heard them, they are worth checking out. The band's 3rd 4th & 5th albums are somewhat prog but have a lot of "Top 40" sounding tunes. After that, they became even more of a pop band not a prog band at all.....still good for a few more albums, though.
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hawkbrock
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 17:33 |
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ELO were rather commercial.
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 18:50 |
hawkbrock wrote:
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Rather commercial?!
You're one for understatement then, hawkbrock. 
"Don’t bring me down, grroosss
Don’t bring me down, grroosss
Don’t bring me down, grroosss
Don’t bring me down."
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fcoulter
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Posted: January 04 2006 at 19:03 |
ELO took less time than Genesis to become commercial. Perhaps rather than adding ELO, we should drop Genesis?
(Of course, that'll mess up the top 10 album list....)
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NecroManiac
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Posted: January 05 2006 at 01:51 |
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ELO was prog, thus at least the first two albums should be included, or you should at least add them to the dreaded "prog-related" list.
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Pafnutij
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Posted: January 05 2006 at 02:12 |
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I've never actually heard ELO, but everywhere I see them described as prog/art-rock. I found it strange that Queen, which is rarely associated with prog , is included, while ELO isnt.
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hawkbrock
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Posted: January 05 2006 at 08:10 |
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You're one for understatement then, hawkbrock. |
I suppose lol. ELO had Mr.Bluesky... very commercial record.
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