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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2005 at 03:04
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Where to begin...?


I think, if I had to settle for one, it'd be the entire chunk running from the spoken section to the end of "Forgotten Sons".



Especially on the Real To Reel version...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2005 at 07:42
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Rothery's orgasmic solo in Keyleigh...

Lavender is awesome also... And of Course, Heart of Lothian...

Script for a Jesters tear is also an awesome tune...



It's Fish and only Fish for me when it comes to Marillion.  It was good to see the music didn't change much after he left, but I just can't get beyond the new "breathy" singer enough to fully enjoy the music...and I have been trying.  So for me Clutching at Straws is the apex of their career and the song that does it most for me is Slàinte Mhath, but the live version of La Gazza Ladra.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2005 at 08:20

Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'

Incubus: 'Now, I'm the snake in the grass...etc'

Emerald Lies: The drum and synth heavy intro..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2005 at 17:25
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'

 

JUst sounds like he's too far up his own bum

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2005 at 17:32
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'

 

JUst sounds like he's too far up his own bum

Pure bloody poetry!  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 02:47
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'

 

JUst sounds like he's too far up his own bum

That's a great illustration of the genius of Fish's lyrics - they mean different things to different people (like all great art), and they say a heck of a lot about the person reading them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 02:57

I have at least narrowed it done to the song, Script For A Jester's Tear ... but I keep changing my mind ... I'll go with this segment

Too much, too soon, too far to go, too late to play ... the game is over

Drama queen or tortured poet ... what's the diff, eh?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:13
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Incubus: 'Now, I'm the snake in the grass...etc'


Oh definately, it goes so well after the solo.

Other stand out moments for me are:

The screamed line "BUT EVEN JESTERS CRY" and the solo from The Web.

The last guitar solo on Grendel.

The last couple of minutes of Forgotten Sons.

Practically the whole of Misplaced Childhood, bur particularly the repeated melody from Lavender and the guitar solo from Kayleigh. I also really like the bass parts in Childhood's End?

The last minute and a half of Warm Wet Circles.

The first few guitar chords of Slainte Mhath

The solo and arpeggios from Sugar Mice.

The last few minutes of The Last Straw starting with a sublime Rothery solo.

The solo and chord arpeggio from Easter.

The chord arpeggio from Alone Again in the Lap of Luxury.

The last few minutes of the last track from Brave (Forgot what it's called)

The chord progression and piano solo from Man of a Thousand Faces.

The slide guitar solo from Ocean Cloud.

Among many many others. Incidentally many of the great guitar parts that I mentioned above are tabbed out on this excellent website: www.marillionmusic.co.uk.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:18

Originally posted by jefmoret jefmoret wrote:

 
"Dont tell me your problems!" <click>

Correction= STOP GIVING ME your problems!  But I know what you mean- i like that one too but its not my favourite Marillion bit...

That'd probably be towards the end of Script for a Jester's Tear: "From this wedding, now a Wake!"  So so good..

Also the extremely fast synth-keyboard in The Web . VERY cool!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:25

^ I hate to be a prog pedant...but I reckon he says:

'Dont GIVE me your problems!'  I  may be wrong though...

As for the end of 'Script..' I concur. That song is one of their best IMO, anyway, but I really love that weepy ending with the slow fade out (perhaps one of the few occassions where a fade out really works)..

The fool escaped from paradise will look over his shoulder and cry
Sit and chew on daffodils and struggle to answer why?
As you grow up and leave the playground
Where you kissed your prince and found your frog
Remember the jester that showed you tears, the script for tears

So I'll hold our peace forever when you wear your bridal gown
In the silence of my shame the mute that sang the sirens' song
Has gone solo in the game, I've gone solo in the game
But the game is over
Can you still say you love me

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:56
I love Fish-era Marillion but recently I have been listening to Anorak in the UK Live. It's great when it starts where the man from the circus is talking and then the band kick in playing heavy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 08:03
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I love being a prog pedant and I reckon he says:

'Dont GIVE me your problems!'

The fool escaped from paradise will look over his shoulder and cry
Sit and chew on daffodils and struggle to answer why?
As you grow up and leave the playground
Where you kissed your prince and found your frog
Remember the jester that showed you tears, the script for tears

So I'll hold MY peace forever when you wear your bridal gown
In the silence of my shame the mute that sang the sirens' song
Has gone solo in the game, I've gone solo in the game
But the game is over
Can you still say you love me

 

The allusion here is to the song from Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night"; "Hold thy peace, thou knave, hold thy peace", with a typical Shakespearean pun on "peace";  ie keeping quiet, not making a fuss, etc. and "piece"; ie, now that the girlfriend has gone, all you're left with is your right hand... This is emphasised by the line "has gone solo in the game..."

Fish is a genius!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 08:12

^ Fish is a filthy bar steward with hairy palms!

So, it's all about w&nking is it? I'll never listen to it again in the same way!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 08:24
To name but a few:
  • "The fool escaped from paradise..." from Script
  • "You're just another coffin..." from Forgotten Sons
  • "She'll pray for endless Sundays..." from Chelsea Monday
  • The chorus of Jigsaw
  • "Where are the prophets..." from Fugazi

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 08:24
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

The allusion here is to the song from Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night"; "Hold thy peace, thou knave, hold thy peace", with a typical Shakespearean pun on "peace";  ie keeping quiet, not making a fuss, etc. and "piece"; ie, now that the girlfriend has gone, all you're left with is your right hand... This is emphasised by the line "has gone solo in the game..."

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Certif1ed - you are a very knowledgeable and intelligent guy. Thanks for the interesting info.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 10:46
  • All the best freaks are here, please stop staring at me, stop staring at me!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 11:22
Probably that first solo in Grendel (at about 5 minutes), followed by the unison runs between Kelly and Rothery... utter magic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 11:50

I'm not a marillion fan, but I have to admit that:

"approach ...friend " ......until the end  (forgotten sons)

is absolutely awesome !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:22
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

^ Fish is a filthy bar steward with hairy palms!

So, it's all about w&nking is it? I'll never listen to it again in the same way!

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

^ Fish is a filthy bar steward with hairy palms!

So, it's all about w&nking is it? I'll never listen to it again in the same way!

 

It's not just about spanking the monkey...

Although I think it probably is on no less than 3 levels;

1. When the ex gets married, he'll never consumate another relationship, to show his deep commitment and passionate involvement with her... but he'll paint the ceiling once in a while.

2. He has a thing about women in wedding attire.

and

3. Great! Now she's gone, I can pull the old mags out from under the floorboards where I hid them the first time she stayed over...

 

...but I could be mistaken...

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 08:04

Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Certif1ed - you are a very knowledgeable and intelligent guy. Thanks for the interesting info.

Cert, as an admin, I have to warn you against creating second identities and making over 400 blatantly un-Cert like posts ... for the sole purpose of slipping something like this in!  ...

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