I'm not a Marillion fan particularly!

But.....my favourite bit of music by them is in The Party from Holidays In Eden.

Its the bit where, he's finished most of the singing, its like a middle 8 section and the guitar  goes "wah, wah wah waaaaaaaaaaaaah" and the cymbals go "ting tikkety ting ting". I love it!

Definitely the whole song 'Hearts Of Lothian'- a genuinely moving track with excellent vocals, keys and guitar.

'The game is over....' part in 'Script For A Jester's Tear' comes close too.

chopper wrote: Snow Dog wrote: I'm not a Marillion fan particularly! But.....my favourite bit of music by them is in The Party from Holidays In Eden. Its the bit where, he's finished most of the singing, its like a middle 8 section and the guitar  goes "wah, wah wah waaaaaaaaaaaaah" and the cymbals go "ting tikkety ting ting". I love it! "ting tikkety ting ting"???

Yeah...

Rothery's orgasmic solo in Keyleigh...

Lavender is awesome also... And of Course, Heart of Lothian...

Script for a Jesters tear is also an awesome tune...

This one's easy for me. The buildup and solo section of Out of this World...amazing, haunting beautiful. The drums are so crisp and smooth and Rothery solo ghastly and ethereal.... and then after the solo hogarth mourns "what did she sayyyyyy..." One of the most stirring pieces of music I've ever heard, the music and lyrics are so fitting...

Also the crescendo at the end of Man of a Thousand Faces...

The ending of The Invisble Man is also powerful (even more so on the live DVD with Hogarth's theatrics) with the heavy bass pickup and soaring Rothery guitars and finally Hogarth singing (shouting) "Talk to me, Acknowledge me, Confide in me, Confess to me..."

Fish has way too many great vocal moments... just off the top of my head I always liked that section of She Chameleon, " So was it just a f**k, just another f**k, just another f**k I said!"

Marillion has so many great moments....

Too hard to choose.  But most likely The last couple minutes of "Easter," even though it may change completely in 30 seconds.

very hard to choose!

actually, i can't choose, but rothery's guitar solo on jigsaw is the perfection itself!

white russian: "we buy fresh bagels, from the corner store , the svastikas are spath from aerosols..."

guitar solo on tux on

guitar solo on lady nina

on script: "approach, friends..."

the ethereal end of hotel hobbies

the ethereal end of warm wet circles

after rothery' guitar solo on the last straw: the rhythmic guitar + "and if you ever come across us don’t give us your sympathy, You can buy us a drink and just shake our hands..."
And you’ll "

the moog solo on assassing, around 4:00

on emerald lies, the intense bit right after "Through the silk cut haze to the smeared mascara
A 40 watt sun on a courtroom drama"

the hackett-esque les paul guitar solo on she cameleon

the very beginning of incubus: rarely seen so colorful & rich keyboards textures.

the gracious and elegant electric guitar solo on incubus

the melodic guitar solo on blind curve + fish saying "Oh I remember toronto when mylo went down
And we sat and we cried on the phone I never felt so alone..."

in the end of childhood's end, the keyboards right after when fish says "lead me on"

the electric guitar solo on kayleigh

mostly all the sentimental bits on bitter suite

the end of the space

the electric guitar solo on easter

the ethereal end of seasons end: IMPRESSIVE, it would perfectly fit on clutching at straws!

one of the most spine tingling moment is on Great Escape, from 1:50 to 3:00 and from 4:10 to 5:40!

on Brave , from 4:10 to 7:00

goodbye to all that, from 4:00 to 5:30

runaway, from 2:30 to 3:30

on bridge, from 0:40 to 2:00: THE KEYBOARDS!

on grendel, from 12:40 to 13:30; the electric guitar solo from 17:10 to 18:00

the electric guitar solo on cinderella search 

the intro in berlin

Where to begin...?

I think, if I had to settle for one, it'd be the entire chunk running from the spoken section to the end of "Forgotten Sons".

Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'

Incubus: 'Now, I'm the snake in the grass...etc'

Emerald Lies: The drum and synth heavy intro..

Blacksword wrote: Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'

JUst sounds like he's too far up his own bum

richardh wrote: Blacksword wrote: Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'   JUst sounds like he's too far up his own bum

Pure bloody poetry!  

richardh wrote: Blacksword wrote: Script for a Jesters Tear: 'I act the role in classic style. Of a martyr carved with twisted smile..etc'   JUst sounds like he's too far up his own bum

That's a great illustration of the genius of Fish's lyrics - they mean different things to different people (like all great art), and they say a heck of a lot about the person reading them.

I have at least narrowed it done to the song, Script For A Jester's Tear ... but I keep changing my mind ... I'll go with this segment

Too much, too soon, too far to go, too late to play ... the game is over

Drama queen or tortured poet ... what's the diff, eh?

jefmoret wrote:   "Dont tell me your problems!" <click>

Correction= STOP GIVING ME your problems!  But I know what you mean- i like that one too but its not my favourite Marillion bit...

That'd probably be towards the end of Script for a Jester's Tear: "From this wedding, now a Wake!"  So so good..

Also the extremely fast synth-keyboard in The Web . VERY cool!

^ I hate to be a prog pedant...but I reckon he says:

'Dont GIVE me your problems!'  I  may be wrong though...

As for the end of 'Script..' I concur. That song is one of their best IMO, anyway, but I really love that weepy ending with the slow fade out (perhaps one of the few occassions where a fade out really works)..

^ Fish is a filthy bar steward with hairy palms!

So, it's all about w&nking is it? I'll never listen to it again in the same way!

• "The fool escaped from paradise..." from Script
• "You're just another coffin..." from Forgotten Sons
• "She'll pray for endless Sundays..." from Chelsea Monday
• The chorus of Jigsaw
  
• "Where are the prophets..." from Fugazi

Certif1ed wrote: The allusion here is to the song from Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night"; "Hold thy peace, thou knave, hold thy peace", with a typical Shakespearean pun on "peace";  ie keeping quiet, not making a fuss, etc. and "piece"; ie, now that the girlfriend has gone, all you're left with is your right hand... This is emphasised by the line "has gone solo in the game..."

Certif1ed - you are a very knowledgeable and intelligent guy. Thanks for the interesting info.

• All the best freaks are here, please stop staring at me, stop staring at me!

• Three hundred miles an hour on water, in your purpose-built machine. No one dared to call a boat
  

• In our racing stripes
  We rejoice at being "connected"
  Without touching
  Thank god for the internet
  
  We stare at our screens
  All our lives
  What a waste of eyes
  'Till the electrical storm blows our fuses
  And we gaze, dumbfounded, at the rain

I'm not a marillion fan, but I have to admit that:

"approach ...friend " ......until the end  (forgotten sons)

is absolutely awesome !

Blacksword wrote: ^ Fish is a filthy bar steward with hairy palms! So, it's all about w&nking is it? I'll never listen to it again in the same way!

Blacksword wrote: ^ Fish is a filthy bar steward with hairy palms! So, it's all about w&nking is it? I'll never listen to it again in the same way!

It's not just about spanking the monkey...

Although I think it probably is on no less than 3 levels;

1. When the ex gets married, he'll never consumate another relationship, to show his deep commitment and passionate involvement with her... but he'll paint the ceiling once in a while.

2. He has a thing about women in wedding attire.

and

3. Great! Now she's gone, I can pull the old mags out from under the floorboards where I hid them the first time she stayed over...

...but I could be mistaken...

Bob Greece wrote: Certif1ed - you are a very knowledgeable and intelligent guy. Thanks for the interesting info.

Cert, as an admin, I have to warn you against creating second identities and making over 400 blatantly un-Cert like posts ... for the sole purpose of slipping something like this in!  ...

Trotsky wrote: Bob Greece wrote: Certif1ed - you are a very knowledgeable and intelligent guy. Thanks for the interesting info. Cert, as an admin, I have to warn you against creating second identities and making over 400 blatantly un-Cert like posts ... for the sole purpose of slipping something like this in!  ...

My two-year old daughter's been using my login again...

Here's a few which spring to mind :-

• The beginning of "The Web" - "Don't Give Me Your Problems"
• The mid-section news report from "Forgotten Sons" - "Your father drains another beer, he's one of the few that cares"
• The end lyric..........."And what do you call assassins who accuse assassins anyway, MY FRIEND ?"
• The kick in to "Punch & Judy"
• The dynamics of "Emerald Lies" - "Through the Silk Cut Haze......"
• The Real to Reel intro of "Assassing"
• "A train sleeps in a siding, the driver guzzles another can of lager"
• All of "That Time of the Night"
• The spine tingling start to "White Russian" - "Where do we go from here ?"
• The conversation between Torch & The Doctor on "Torch Song" -"If you maintain this lifestyle, you won't reach 30..........Christ well it's sort of a romantic way to go really"

Ah, the memories............

Blacksword wrote: 'Dont GIVE me your problems!'  I  may be wrong though...

You are correct!

The guitar solo in Jigsaw sends shivers down my spine.

There are many, many others, but that's the very best. Everything from Script to Clutching at Straws is excellent and Grendel is a great long piece.

^ Good one.

I would also submit:

"Receive your punishment, expose your throats to my righteous claws and let the blood flow"

"Romance lies in ruin, let debauchery reign"

The entire second half of the song Script.

"So was it just a f, was it just a f, just another f I said, loving just for laughs, carnal autograph, lying on a lizard's bed"

The middle section of That Time of the Night..."and if some kind soul could please pick up my tab, and while they're at it if they could pick up my broken heart"

And the lyrical finale of The Last Straw beginning with "So if you ever come across us..."

greenback wrote: ...in the end of childhood's end, the keyboards right after when fish says "lead me on"...

The whole "Childhood's End section, building up to "Lead me on..." and the tempo change / keyboard part that follows. It's very rare that I hear a tempo change that fits so well within a story that's been told. And... goosebumps every time!

There's been some excellent Hogarth era moments.  These are my favourites :-

• The guitar solo in Easter - it's enough to bring tears to your eyes  (I know I'm a soppy git !!)
• When H screams "With a hole in our hearts" at the end of Berlin
• The build up of Hard as Love.  "It makes you hungry and it makes you high" through to "Baby nothin else has ever been as hard as love". Awesome !!
• The moving silence of "Out of this World" when the boat flips
• The sheer emotions of "One Fine Day"
• Pete's bass on "Quartz"
• The Rothers solo on "Fantastic Day"

Garbs I know what you mean about Rothery's solo on Easter, I find it very emotional

Easter is one of the most emotional stirring songs I have ever heard.  There is no one better in the business as Rothers for putting in blinding solos just when you want to hear them (except for maybe Gilmour).  Like I mentioned on my list, Fantastic Place off Marbles contains another very emotional solo and also how stirring is Sugar Mice ?

If you look over Marillion's 20+ years as a band you'll find so much diversity - they have really experimented with a number of different sounds.  I find it incredible that the music press still SLATE them for being old dinasours who should pack it all in because they are simply known as Marillion.  I vividly remember Q magazine's summing up of Afraid of Sunlight (and this was 10 years ago !) - "if this was by any other band than one called Marillion then this would be a huge album".  What kind of reporting is that ?  To say the album is excellent but it's let down because it's by Marillion.

Anyhow, it's really great to see so many Marillion fans on here !!

MISPLACES CHILDHOOD - MARBLES - and one very special Accoustic At the Bass Museum.

Forgotten Sons.

"Halt who goes there?" .... "Death Approach" .... silence ..... guitar

My favourite songs from Marillion history are:

Chelsea Monday

Blind Curves

Neverland

The space

Estonia

But marillion is one of my favourite....so.......I love all!!

Without spending too much time trying to decide on specific songs for this trivial topic, I'd have to say that the best moments (in my opinion) come from Fugazi and Clutching at Straws (especially songs like Assassing, Incubus, That Time of the Night, Incommunicado, White Russian).  Awesome stuff.

Over 20-plus years and umpteen albums, I could never hope to mention all of my favorites, but there are a few that stand out ... a good many already mentioned:

(in no particular order)

1. The third verse of "Warm Wet Circles"

2. Pretty much all of "Bitter Suite" but especially the "Blue Angel" section:

The sky was Bible black in Lyon
When I met the Magdalene
She was paralysed in a streetlight
She refused to give her name

And a ring of violet bruises
They were pinned upon her arm.
Two hundred francs for sanctuary and she led me by the hand
To a room of dancing shadows where all the heartache disappears
And from glowing tongues of candles I heard her whisper in my ear
"'J'entend ton coeur"

3. Rothery's incredible solo on "Easter", then the entire "What would you do?" section.

4. From "The Great Escape", the "Falling From The Moon" and "The Last Of You"

Don't ask me why I'm doing this
You wouldn't understand
You're asking the wrong questions
You couldn't understand

A bridge is not a high place
The fifty-second floor
Icarus would know
A mountain isn't far to fall

When you've fallen
When you've fallen from the moon

5. I'm particularly taken with Hogarth's lyric in "After Me", particularly the first two verses:

There's a line on her jeans that a ball-point made
From a careless mistake that she can't wash away
And there's a heart on her sleeve from a spill of red wine
There's a piece of green in the blue of her eyes
She named it after me

There's a stray dog she feeds that she found in the street
And he loves her to hold him, but he won't let her keep him
And he claws at the door to be let out at night
And she makes do without him, and she worries about him
She named him after me

6. The final line of "Assassing"

7. Hogarth's lyric on "Estonia":

Feeling you shake
Feel your heart break
Thinking if only, if only, if only, if only
And the salt water runs
Through your veins and your bones
Telling you no not this way, not this way, not this way

And you would give anything
Give up everything
Offer your life blood away
For yesterday

No one leaves you
When you live in their heart and mind
And no one dies
They just move to the other side
When we're gone
Watch the world simply carry on
We live on laughing and in no pain
We'll stay and be happy
With those who have loved us today

I had an off-line discussion a while back with another member who just does not get Marillion.  And of course, that's okay ... all music is art and art means different things to us all.  But what surprised me is that none of his reviews or comments to me ever included one word about the lyrics.  As powerful as Marillion are in my eyes musically, It's been Fish's lyrics (and though they're miles apart stylistically, some of Hogarth's as well) that have set them apart from most of the pack.

Snow Dog wrote: I'm not a Marillion fan particularly! But.....my favourite bit of music by them is in The Party from Holidays In Eden. Its the bit where, he's finished most of the singing, its like a middle 8 section and the guitar  goes "wah, wah wah waaaaaaaaaaaaah" and the cymbals go "ting tikkety ting ting". I love it!

I agree totally, the guitar solo from The Party is great - interesting tonality from the guitar, energetic drums, and a great, full-bodied bass.

As for my own favourite moment, I just couldn't choose one, but the following are all up there:

The guitar riff on 'Forgotten Sons', following the line "Approach, friend"

The first notes of 'Kayleigh', played over the last chord of 'Pseudo-Silk Kimono'

The first guitar solo on 'The King of Sunset Town', breaking out from the quiet opening section

The opening bars of 'Living with the Big Lie'

The vocal harmony between Steve Hogarth and Carrie Tree on 'Angelina', with the line "Lonely man's best friend"

Also, whenever I've heard them play 'Neverland' live, there's a moment between the chorus and the guitar solo, when evrything stops.  That is just electric.

• Script For A Jester's Tears
• Forgotten Sons
• Easter
• He Knows You Know
• Garden Party
• Warm Wet Circles
• Grendel
• Gazpacho
• This Strange Engine
• Sugar Mice

Hmmm... my Favourite Marillion Bit eh?

Where to begin...?

Well... how about the part where I

TURN IT OFF!!!

eh?

^Laugh?

I nearly DID

Certif1ed wrote: ^Laugh? I nearly DID

sorry, I was in a funny mood

Joren wrote: Certif1ed wrote: ^Laugh? I nearly DID sorry, I was in a funny mood

That's debatable...

...

Sorry...

...

I'm always in a funny mood...

"Threshold" from Misplaced Childhood

End guitar solo of 'Grendel'

Last section of 'Invisible man'

ALL of 'Blind curve'

End guitar solo of 'The fairground' (early version of 100 nights)

Verses of 'This is the 21st century'

End of any live version of 'Forgotten sons'

Joren wrote: Hmmm... my Favourite Marillion Bit eh? Where to begin...? Well... how about the part where I TURN IT OFF!!! eh?

I know what you mean.......as I said I'm not a fan, but I'm still trying, and there are a few things I like.........Clutching At Straws for example....good album.

STAND STRAIGHT!!!!!

LOOK ME IN THE EYE AND SAY GOODBYE!!!!

meurglysIII wrote: Has anyone said "Hooks in You" yet???

 Oh wow, I haven't heard a good joke in awhile! Thanks!

THE SCRIPT...

Fish

music -guitar solo on Heart of Lothian

lyric -as the glancing headlights of the last bus kiss adolescence goodbye. (Warm Wet Circles)

live moment -MC tour..I see children pleading with outstretched hands drenched in napalm , this is no vietnam (incredibly intense moment courtesy of Fish)

H

music -the opening guitar bit on King of Sunset Town

lyric -you stare at yourself in the cruel flush of dawn, terrified sunken eyed withered and drawn. (Berlin)

live moment -HIE tour...The Space (The only time I've ever seen H REALLY let er rip with the vocal power that hes capable of...incredible)

these are by no means definitive, there are so many great bits

There are too many good Marillion pieces to mention. But recently I'm completely hooked to the "Marbles" album.

One of the great tracks is "Neverland", and the most beautiful and emotional part imho is when H starts to "stutter" when...when...when... etc, and then the guitar takes it's theme again... wow, all the way to the end of the song it's a trip.

 Also, the last minutes of "The invisible Man" when H's voice more or less "breaks" that part is incredible.

TRYN´TO NOT REPEAT MANY OF THEM, I´M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROGGERS WHO THINK LIKE ME... ABOUT "THE SPACE", "THE LAST STRAW", "WHITE RUSSIAN", OUT OF THIS WORLD", "KING", "HEART OF LOTHIAN", ETC...

-THE END OF "THIS STRANGE ENGINE" (WHEN HOGARTH RIPS OFF HIS VOICE!!!)

-THE GUITAR SOLO AFTER THE SECOND CHORUS IN "THE KING OF SUNSET TOWN" (I ALWAYS HAVE TO PRESS THE REWIND BUTTON!!!)

-THE SECOND PART OF "RUNAWAY"

-THE CODA OF "QUARTZ"

-THE BRIDGE AND CODA OF "BETWEEN YOU AND ME"

-THE FIRST AND LAST SOLO AND CODA OF "SPLINTERING HEART"

-THE SOLO AND WONDERFULLY SIMPLE PIANO FINALE OF "WAITING TO HAPPEN"

-THE KEYBOARD SOLO AFTER THE BRIDGE OF "AFRAID OF SUNLIGHT"

Snow Dog wrote: Joren wrote: Hmmm... my Favourite Marillion Bit eh? Where to begin...? Well... how about the part where I TURN IT OFF!!! eh? I know what you mean.......as I said I'm not a fan, but I'm still trying, and there are a few things I like.........Clutching At Straws for example....good album.

I don't really HATE them or something. There are some bits I enjoy... but not too many

stonebeard wrote: STAND STRAIGHT!!!!! LOOK ME IN THE EYE AND SAY GOODBYE!!!!

Awesome lyric and melody during that song.

It's very hard to pick a "favourite bit", as there are so many divine moments on every marillion-album. Nonetheless what's making me absolutely helpless is the first part of "Interior Lulu", until, say, the "song" before it starts to become a prog-magnum-opus... that mood and feel's just killing me...

Joren wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Joren wrote: Hmmm... my Favourite Marillion Bit eh? Where to begin...? Well... how about the part where I TURN IT OFF!!! eh? I know what you mean.......as I said I'm not a fan, but I'm still trying, and there are a few things I like.........Clutching At Straws for example....good album. I don't really HATE them or something. There are some bits I enjoy... but not too many

Good!! it's clear you DON'T HATE them. It's extremely dangerous to use that word here!! You DISLIKE this band??

Tons of amazing bits, but my favourites are:

• All forgotten sons
• The end of Invisible man