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The Miracle
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:59 |
I'm extremely open minded towarks all subgenres of prog, and mostly dislike(not hate) the poppiest bands
So, Genesis trio, Styx, Asia, Tool... That's about it.
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FragileDT
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:53 |
ThisWas wrote:
I dont know if you people consider The Mars Volta prog,
but the music industry seems to, so my vote is for them<!--
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What's your reason on not considering them prog? I'd love to hear it.
As for the thread question... I can't really answer it. I don't really hate any
prog band. I'm not a big Floyd fan but I do know that there music is very well
written and would never associate the word hate while talking about them.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Bobby
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:36 |
Blacksword wrote:
Bobby wrote:
I'd say genesis is a good answer. Anyone here ever see the video for land of confusion?
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I dont have a problem with the video. At least it was amusing. It's the music I have a problem with.
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Oh, I don't mind the video either, it's quite amusing. I just wondered if anyone had seen it before.
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ThisWas
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:08 |
I dont know if you people consider The Mars Volta prog, but the music industry seems to, so my vote is for them
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:19 |
aapatsos wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
well #1 = Dream theater. (my poop is too precious to me to pile it on an random dream theater album)
#2 = Porcupine tree. Get over it..
#3 = Elp, not my thing
#4 = marillion (it's a love it or hate it thing .. I don't like it...)
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I still can't understand....
maybe you mean DT since 2000...
I would agree partly on that
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If I would mean DT since 2000... I'd probably got something like this written:
well #1 = Dream theater since 2000... (my poop is too precious to me to pile it on an random dream theater album)
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Bilbo
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:06 |
YES and ELP
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:55 |
Radioactive Toy wrote:
well #1 = Dream theater. (my poop is too precious to me to pile it on an random dream theater album)
#2 = Porcupine tree. Get over it..
#3 = Elp, not my thing
#4 = marillion (it's a love it or hate it thing .. I don't like it...)
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I still can't understand....
maybe you mean DT since 2000...
I would agree partly on that
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:53 |
Rael72 wrote:
Pink Floyd isn't necessarily bad, but they're way way way too over-rated. |
Maybe you should rethink about it...
Even their last studio album was magnificent...
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:41 |
well #1 = Dream theater. (my poop is too precious to me to pile it on an random dream theater album)
#2 = Porcupine tree. Get over it..
#3 = Elp, not my thing
#4 = marillion (it's a love it or hate it thing .. I don't like it...)
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Rael72
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:26 |
Pink Floyd isn't necessarily bad, but they're way way way too over-rated.
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My grip must be flipping
Cos his handshake keeps slipping
My hopes keep on dipping
And his lips keep on smiling all the time
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Drew
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:21 |
matti meikäläin wrote:
in my opinion yes, genesis and elp |
Ditto- although Im starting to understand Genesis- a bit
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:18 |
Blacksword wrote:
Not keen on the word 'worst' but my least favourite of the famous prog bands is probably ELP and even they have their moments for me. |
totally agree for the 'moments' part...
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:14 |
magog wrote:
Dream Theater are a heavy metal band, so I say ELP |
what???
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OldFatherThames
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:28 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Cinema wrote:
Here's my list:
-- Starcastle
-- Druid
-- Marillion |
Sorry, Druid were not famous and they were also DAMN GOOD!! Marillion are also excellent. Starcastle I agree with.
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O ! I forgot about Starcastle ! that is absolutely aweful plagiarism...no one can deny it !!
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salmacis
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:27 |
Cinema wrote:
salmacis wrote:
[QUOTE=Cinema]Here's my list: -- Starcastle -- Druid -- Marillion |
None of these bands are downright bad- in fact, Druid are excellent as are Marillion. However, in terms of pointlessness, Starcastle are hard to beat; if imitation is the highest form of flattery, then Yes' heads are still swelling 30 years after Starcastle's debut! They are the closest I've ever heard to an outright tribute act that suddenly decided to write original material.
Druid however, aren't as close to Yes as I'd heard. I heard their first album a few years ago on vinyl but only today bought the CD. The songs are more polished than what Yes do, and with far more mellotrons. And Marillion don't especially sound like Genesis either to these ears...
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Salmacis, after reading your post I decided to go back and listen to some Starcastle and Druid. Perhaps, in spite of all these years of hearing them, I'm just missing something.
Right now I'm halfway through Starcastle's debut album and ... nope, I wasn't wrong.
They truly suck. At least as far as I'm concerned, but what do I know? |
Sorry if my post mislead you- I'm not a fan of Starcastle either; their first album is plain plagiarism and their second is plain boring. All I was saying was that compared to some genres, prog doesn't have any REALLY bad bands.
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Tony Fisher
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Location: England
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:18 |
Cinema wrote:
Here's my list:
-- Starcastle
-- Druid
-- Marillion |
Sorry, Druid were not famous and they were also DAMN GOOD!! Marillion are also excellent. Starcastle I agree with.
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Cinema
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Joined: August 25 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:08 |
salmacis wrote:
[QUOTE=Cinema]Here's my list: -- Starcastle --
Druid -- Marillion |
None of these bands are downright bad- in fact, Druid are excellent as
are Marillion. However, in terms of pointlessness, Starcastle are hard to
beat; if imitation is the highest form of flattery, then Yes' heads are still
swelling 30 years after Starcastle's debut! They are the closest I've ever
heard to an outright tribute act that suddenly decided to write original
material.
Druid however, aren't as close to Yes as I'd heard. I heard their first
album a few years ago on vinyl but only today bought the CD. The songs
are more polished than what Yes do, and with far more mellotrons. And
Marillion don't especially sound like Genesis either to these ears... [/
QUOTE]
Salmacis, after reading your post I decided to go back and listen to some
Starcastle and Druid. Perhaps, in spite of all these years of hearing them,
I'm just missing something.
Right now I'm halfway through Starcastle's debut album and ... nope, I
wasn't wrong.
They truly suck. At least as far as I'm concerned, but what do I know?
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:06 |
Bobby wrote:
I'd say genesis is a good answer. Anyone here ever see the video for land of confusion?
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Yes I agree, this song makes me want to vomit, but in order to be the worst famous Prog band ever, it has to be prog, and THREE MEN GENESIS IS POP, as simple as that.
Of course if you want to take the band as a whole, you can't ever consider the worst Prog band those guys who once released Supper's Ready, Musical Box, Can Utility and the Coastliners, Dancoing with the Moonlit Knight, etc, etc, etc.
Iván
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Blacksword
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Location: England
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:03 |
Bobby wrote:
I'd say genesis is a good answer. Anyone here ever see the video for land of confusion?
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I dont have a problem with the video. At least it was amusing. It's the music I have a problem with.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Moatilliatta
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 01 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:00 |
Personally, I have never seen what was so great about Marillion. I like some of their material, but it doesn't click with me for the most part. They may not be the worst, maybe overrated though.
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