Worst famous prog band?
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Topic: Worst famous prog band?
Posted By: aapatsos
Subject: Worst famous prog band?
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 09:51
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This must be difficult. Which is the worst famous prog band? Give names that are 'widely' known... I can't find any at the moment... this is hard! Maybe Queensryche of the last decade.......in terms of producing boring music |
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 10:03
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Dream Theater. |
Posted By: magog
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 10:06
| Dream Theater are a heavy metal band, so I say ELP |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 10:23
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Dream Theater are Prog Metal, so I say um well definitely not Dt or ELP, no way, no how! Um..............er...........Im not that keen on Marillion actually! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 10:50
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Alan Parson's Something, Ambrosia, The jon and Vangelis stuff, Manferd Mann's late albums, err... Ian ¿Gilan?... any album from those bands that are supposed to be progressive but end up as background music on the elevators... ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Deliriumist
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 11:45
| Don't quite like Dream Theatre. They try too hard to be prog (or something) |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 11:54
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Genesis (is there someone here who likes invisible touch or we can't dance ?)
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Ed Zeppelin
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 12:09
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I can't stand Genesis. It's just drivel. Think Sledgehammer and Mike and the Mechanics. 'Nuff said really! ------------- There is no sun in the shadow of The Wizard. |
Posted By: magog
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 12:25
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lucas wrote:Posted By: NELMOMEDELPROG
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 12:53
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MY JAM SESSION FAVOURITE BAND:
DRUMS: CARL PALMER, BILL BRUFORD, NEIL PEART, FRANZ DI CIOCCIO, JOHN HISEMAN & MIKE PORTNOY
BASS: CHRIS SQUIRE & GEDDY LEE
KEYBOARDS: KEITH EMERSON, RICK WAKEMAN, VANGELIS & DAVE GREENSLADE
GUITARS: MICHAEL ROMEO, JOHN PETRUCCI & CARLOS SANTANA
WOODWIND INSTRUMENTS: MEL COLLINS & DICK HECKSTALL SMITH
VOCALS & WOODWIND INSRUMENTS: IAN ANDERSON
VOCALS: ANNIE HASLAM, JOE LYNN TURNER, RONNIE JAMES DIO & IAN GILLAN |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:26
I haven't heard all of Invisible Touch, but We Can't Dance isn't a bad pop album. Fading Lights is great. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:28
 with out question "" TRIUMVIRAT""
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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:32
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Emerson, Lake & Palmer. ------------- Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact. |
Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:33
| in my opinion yes, genesis and elp |
Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 13:46
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Dream Theater ------------- “Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.” ~Jack Kerouac |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:03
| Pink Floyd and Mike Oldfield |
Posted By: pepolo
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:11
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The flower kings
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Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:13
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Totally agree !!Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:24
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Here's my list:
-- Starcastle -- Druid -- Marillion |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:26
¡ Holly copy !, ¡ I forgot about Triumvirat !... But here's the thing: Eloy. They have a great album (Oceans); but the rest of their discography is just lame or uneven. I particulary dislike their first works; The power and the passion and else. Now, to be fare, I have to say that "Ocean" is an incredible exception; and the live album is not that bad; but I have a lot of eloy albums that I got hopping to see some kind of artistic growing from one to the other. I want my money back. Specially, I want the money I spent getting "Metromania". They are "Emule worthy". ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:27
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 14:40
| Marillion |
Posted By: NELMOMEDELPROG
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 15:31
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PFM, CAMEL, RENAISSANCE, EKSEPTION, SYMPHONY X, EGG, CATAPILLA, LE ORME, BANCO MUTUO SOCCORSO, ALAN PARSONS PROJECT/ BAND, DEEP PURPLE, YES, ELP, GENESIS, KANSAS, DREAM THEATRE, VANGELIS, STEVE HOWE, APHRODITES CHILD, BALLETTO DI BRONZO, TIME MACHINE, ROYAL HUNT, ARTENSION, GENTLE GIANT, JEHTRO TULL, MARILLION, CACOPHONY, CYNIC, MOODY BLUES, FOCUS, DARK, ATOMIC ROOSTER, BLACK WIDOW, HATFIELD AND THE NORTH, MIKE OLDFIELD, RICK WAKEMAN, SHADOW GALLERY, SUPERTRAMP, RUSH AND MANY, MANY, MANY ,MANY... AND MANY ,MANY ,MANY, MANY ,MANY, MANY... AND MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M A FAN OF PROG MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 15:52
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None of these bands are downright bad- in fact, Druid are excellent as are Marillion. However, in terms of pointlessness, Starcastle are hard to beat; if imitation is the highest form of flattery, then Yes' heads are still swelling 30 years after Starcastle's debut! They are the closest I've ever heard to an outright tribute act that suddenly decided to write original material. Druid however, aren't as close to Yes as I'd heard. I heard their first album a few years ago on vinyl but only today bought the CD. The songs are more polished than what Yes do, and with far more mellotrons. And Marillion don't especially sound like Genesis either to these ears... |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 15:59
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Not keen on the word 'worst' but my least favourite of the famous prog bands is probably ELP and even they have their moments for me. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:00
What the hell? ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know... Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:04
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Triumvirat is awesome. I would say 3 men Genesis.....No, not Prog, we're not talking about POP. Camel is boring but not bad at all. I would say Jon & Vangelis..........Not Prog either, we're not talking about New Age I can't find one, I see merits in most of them. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:07
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I'd say genesis is a good answer. Anyone here ever see the video for land of confusion? |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:13
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Marillion "Tool" and "Styx" Notice Tool and Styx are in quotes. |
Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:19
WHAT THE f**k??????? |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:20
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I cant think of any, like Ivan I can findgood points in all their works, as long as we stick to their prog works that is and forget the pop that some of the greats turned to. Some of you guys are really closed minded about what is prog. I know that there are some of you that think that because a band takes some of its influence from the likes of Metallica it isnt prog. This is quite something from people that claim to be open minded. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:00
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Personally, I have never seen what was so great about Marillion. I like some of their material, but it doesn't click with me for the most part. They may not be the worst, maybe overrated though. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:03
I dont have a problem with the video. At least it was amusing. It's the music I have a problem with. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:06
Yes I agree, this song makes me want to vomit, but in order to be the worst famous Prog band ever, it has to be prog, and THREE MEN GENESIS IS POP, as simple as that. Of course if you want to take the band as a whole, you can't ever consider the worst Prog band those guys who once released Supper's Ready, Musical Box, Can Utility and the Coastliners, Dancoing with the Moonlit Knight, etc, etc, etc. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:08
None of these bands are downright bad- in fact, Druid are excellent as
Druid however, aren't as close to Yes as I'd heard. I heard their first
QUOTE] Salmacis, after reading your post I decided to go back and listen to some Starcastle and Druid. Perhaps, in spite of all these years of hearing them, I'm just missing something. Right now I'm halfway through Starcastle's debut album and ... nope, I wasn't wrong. They truly suck. At least as far as I'm concerned, but what do I know? 
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:18
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Sorry, Druid were not famous and they were also DAMN GOOD!! Marillion are also excellent. Starcastle I agree with. |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:27
Sorry if my post mislead you- I'm not a fan of Starcastle either; their first album is plain plagiarism and their second is plain boring. All I was saying was that compared to some genres, prog doesn't have any REALLY bad bands. |
Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:28
O ! I forgot about Starcastle ! that is absolutely aweful plagiarism...no one can deny it !! |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:14
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what??? |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:18
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totally agree for the 'moments' part... |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:21
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Ditto- although Im starting to understand Genesis- a bit |
Posted By: Rael72
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:26
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Pink Floyd isn't necessarily bad, but they're way way way too over-rated.
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:41
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well #1 = Dream theater. (my poop is too precious to me to pile it on an random dream theater album) #2 = Porcupine tree. Get over it.. #3 = Elp, not my thing #4 = marillion (it's a love it or hate it thing .. I don't like it...) -------------  
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:53
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Maybe you should rethink about it... Even their last studio album was magnificent... |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:55
I still can't understand.... maybe you mean DT since 2000... I would agree partly on that |
Posted By: Bilbo
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:06
| YES and ELP |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:19
If I would mean DT since 2000... I'd probably got something like this written: well #1 = Dream theater since 2000... (my poop is too precious to me to pile it on an random dream theater album) -------------
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Posted By: ThisWas
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:08
| I dont know if you people consider The Mars Volta prog, but the music industry seems to, so my vote is for them |
Posted By: Bobby
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:36
Oh, I don't mind the video either, it's quite amusing. I just wondered if anyone had seen it before. |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:53
What's your reason on not considering them prog? I'd love to hear it. 
As for the thread question... I can't really answer it. I don't really hate any prog band. I'm not a big Floyd fan but I do know that there music is very well written and would never associate the word hate while talking about them. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:59
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I'm extremely open minded towarks all subgenres of prog, and mostly dislike(not hate) the poppiest bands So, Genesis trio, Styx, Asia, Tool... That's about it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Gomah
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 02:20
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I'll buy all your Eloy collection. If you are willing to sell, pm me and we may cut a deal! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 09:56
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This is a very childish thread and I refuse to take part... Except to say that: GENESIS ARE TEH RUBBISHNESS!!!!1111ONE.
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 09:57
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Marillion are the group I have just never got into at all. Have to go with others and say Triumvirat. After years of waiting to hear the re-issues...what a let down. ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 10:15
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I love all the really big ones (assume we're talking Genesis, Gentle
Giant, Rush, Yes, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, ELP and Rush here!) ... but of those, ELP and Rush are the ones I listen to the least, I think the trio thing might have something to do with it ... Of the relatively well-known acclaimed prog bands ... my personal "love to hate em" band is Can ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 10:38
| ELP & Flower Kings |
Posted By: TimothyLeary
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 10:43
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elp the flour kings landberk |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 10:53
OK, ok. I understand you hate DT, but I cannot understand why... |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 11:17
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From all the "biggies", I'm not so keen on Rush, Dream Theater, the Flower Kings and Spock's Beard. Still, all of those bands have done at least some things that I really like. From the "medium-sized bands": I can't really get into Eloy. From the "smallies": Starcastle is a band that is very talented, but their music didn't touch me in any way. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 11:40
| Marillion |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 12:02
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well I see Marillion get the most votes... maybe I should create a poll |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 12:15
You listen to Rush the least but you got it twice in the list? |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 15:09
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'King Crimson'. I liked them up until Wetton left but I prefer Genesis 80's stuff to KC's! I HATE 80'S AND BEYOND KING CRIMSON! |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 15:51
I love Belew era Crimson. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 15:55
Explain yourself! And I'd have to say that Emerson, Lake and Palmer just don't do it for me. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 16:04
| Mariah. |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 16:05
I would like to just ask this: any of you, gentlemen, has, by any chance, a GIRLDFIREND !!!... I mean, girfirends usually provide us with a pleasure that, as I see, you have choosen to reffer at as "suck balls". So, what does that says about the way you talk about this (and the way you think about your special one`s). So rude...
------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 16:11
| Though I love Thick as a Brick and A passion play, (and maybe minstrel in the gallery), I simply don't get the rest of their stuff, it does not sound as prog to me,m more like a folk-rock band. |
Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 16:15
| Though I love Thick as a Brick and A passion play, (and maybe minstrel in the gallery), I simply don't get the rest of their stuff, it does not sound as prog to me,m more like a folk-rock band. |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 17:45
OH BOY! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? ------------- 
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Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 17:46
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Dream Theatre... and all their metal followers |
Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 21:58
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My choice for this is Emerson, Lake and Palmer. I could never hear any music from them. It was all Emerson mashing those keys. Should have called the band Emerson, Emerson and Emerson. ------------- LDL |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 22:16
Yeah, let's all hate people for liking a genre of music. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 22:21
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ELP for me. I have BSS and Pictures at an Exhibition and I just plain don't like keyboards/organs when played the way Emerson plays them. I want ethereal and supportive keyboards, not at the forefront. Also, if the MP3s on this site are any indication of their overall musical output: Pain of Salvation Opeth would be OK, but they're so depressing and I don't like growling vocals. All the other big ones: Rush, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, Marillion...I all like very much. I could get into more bands that I like not so much, but this is a famous prog bands topic. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 22:48
Hawkwind are pretty bad ... infact I like them lots because they are so crappy .. sometimes bad is good in a strange way , I mean how does an inventive creative mind know untill he gives its try ? 
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Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 04:40
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for me is simple: Dream theater
------------- La Speranza della coscienza è forza La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù La Speranza del corpo è malattia (G.I. Gurdjieff) |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 09:48
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yeah pretty weird... |
Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 11:35
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Prog Rock: Styx Prog Metal: Tool Styx I strongly dislike, so that was easy. I only own Lateralus by Tool and it's pretty good, I'd give it 3/5 stars. Some other popular Prog Metal bands are Dream Theater, Tool, Symphony X, Ayreon, and Pain of Salvation, and I love them all except Tool who are alright. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mercury
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 11:38
| I'd have to go with King Crimson....I love the Lake era albums, but I've never managed to truly enjoy the Wetton era. |
Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 12:15
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I'll go with Marillion as well. I don't really consider Styx to be prog. ------------- The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. http://www.last.fm/user/sbonfiglioli/?chartstyle=red"> 
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:10
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Lateralus is their best album! well I'm not trying to change your opinion, but, "Tool make ART, not MUSIC" |
Posted By: mortem
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:27
Queensryche 
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/m0rtem/ - My Last.fm |
Posted By: Destrio
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:33
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Genesis, |
they're good, Firth of Fifth, Get em Out By Friday, and Supper's Ready are amazing. But the band is vastly overrated.Posted By: Fusioned
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 14:22
I like both of those albums! Good stuff! As for worst popular band? Kansas I cant stand... ------------- +FUSIONED+ 
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Posted By: Nens
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 15:47
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Yay, my first post!!! Well I would have to say the following would make my list of suck: #1 - Can #2 - New Dream Theater #3 - ELP |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 15:51
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Radiohead, an indie band with mediocre musicall talants and likeing for a bit of experimentation but ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 16:30
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Oh yeah, and Eloy. Most irritating singer ever. But then again, they're not really famous. ------------- The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. http://www.last.fm/user/sbonfiglioli/?chartstyle=red">
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 17:42
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Would go with Radiohead........just think they are a modern band with a little more brains behind them than most of the drivel out there, but they are not prog, at all. Also, even though I like Pendragon, I always think they pale in comparison to many of their contemporaries, simply coz Nick Barret's voice is just so amazingly 'average'... |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 18:23
And your reasoning for this? Overrated is such an annoying word when no reason is given. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 19:41
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Where i come from Eloy are as famous as Dream Theatre, which is not really. But Dt are the worst of the lot.......or maybe Gong and all that Canterbury nonsense.
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 20:30
The Mars Volta and Radiohead.  ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 21:03
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Got some more: Kansas and The Mars Volta Thanks for reminding me guys! ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 21:17
IAN GILLAN. Nelmomedelprog obviously has some good taste! ------------- LDL |
Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 21:26
Overrated; defintion for the purposes of this site only: Many people thinking that only certain songs are great, mainly because others had recommended it to them. They, in turn, recommend just those songs to newbies. Like a big, vicious cycle. ------------- LDL |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 21:31
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 21:50
Digs Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance, can't stand Kansas, has a dang Saga picture for a signature?! You my friend are an enigma. A true prog fan! ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 08:31
I don't like selling music. I would trade those records with you, but I fear I'm a little bit far away, and I don't have the albums anymore. I gave them to someone who actually likes Eloy, so I guess he's pretty happy now. Anyway, good luck getting them. I stick with the only one I like. They had their chance of becoming a great band, but the 80's ruined them. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 08:33
Having said that, if ELP is into it, I'm interested. ¿Do you know were can I find them?. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 11:01
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Everything they have done until 'Promised Land' 1994, is AT LEAST respectable |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 11:05
COME ON, point of know return and leftoverture are great albums... Why do you hate Kansas? maybe because they come from Kansas??? |