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Poll Question: So.. are you dropping acid or having red eyes, or are you clean?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:15
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Actually. yea, we can all access these altered mind states naturally... by meditation techniques, or transe states, etc... But, please is there a non-stoner here who does that?  Theres those tibetan people... yea...    But other than that... A PORTION of peopple who go in drugs are already super smart and wanna find out MORE about the universe... and what better way then ingesting a plant that can make you access that information... and what makes you say stoners dont meditate or anything once in a while to obtaint it naturally... Its more about the desire of someone to obtain such altered mind state. I completely disagree with "people with small minds use them." Its probably the wisest people who realize. hek drugs arent bad... what is the meaning of "bad" anyways on this planet. we dont even KNOW the damn meaning of life. why give ourselves limits...

I think he was generally speaking.  I'm sure some people use marijuana to expand their minds and stuff like you mentioned, but that number is quite small.  If you are naturally creative, then why bother using a drug?

Drugs aren't "bad" but they can mess people up both mentally and physically.  I don't think marijuana is bad at all physically, and I'm not even sure why it's illegal, but it can mentally cripple users and force them to become almost dependent on the drug to have a good time (similar to alcohol).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:24
Yea i completely agree. If you wanna adventure into drugs. first: have a goal... and dont take it as a way to have "fun"... take it "spiritually". bless it! and you are right... sadly there arent many people who take drugs this way... Finally, drugs can be bad, and they can be good. depending on your purpose.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2005 at 22:51

^

I like the way you think man

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:06

I think everyone I've met that was into Prog is clean

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:54
... well, you probably doesn't know many progger... maybe they are GlassHammer fans, or something like that...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:14

^lol

Well, Borealis... you live in Quebec right? (me 2)

Just that fact is enough to have alot of stoner friends lol

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2005 at 22:19

Drugs don't interest me at all.

I think, though, with my long hair and my strange music some people can get the wrong impression...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 00:05
I'm sprinkly clean

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 22:10
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

^lol

Well, Borealis... you live in Quebec right? (me 2)

Just that fact is enough to have alot of stoner friends lol

Yes I do. I know more people on drugs here than clear ones... ahh, la jeunesse québécoise de nos jours

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2005 at 17:04
Originally posted by Borealis Borealis wrote:

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

^lol

Well, Borealis... you live in Quebec right? (me 2)

Just that fact is enough to have alot of stoner friends lol

Yes I do. I know more people on drugs here than clear ones... ahh, la jeunesse québécoise de nos jours

haha, eh oui... quelle gagne de buzzers

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2005 at 03:09
I'm clean. Always have been, always will be. But that does not stop people from thinking I'm a stoner 

What's yer faovrite album? =^_^=
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2005 at 13:39
All kinds of clean here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 15:51

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

But if you are truly creative and imaginative you shouldn't need to get stoned to find inspiration.

Listen to tool's song third eye. The guy talking reminds me of Bill Hicks now that I think about it, not sure though.

Have you listened to the song "The End" from the doors. It's an amazing track IMO but surely a result of being alone in the desert talking LSD.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:07
yea, being stoned gives you a wider consiousness, wether you believe it or not, if you refuse to believe so, then you're just being stupid. and all those discussions aroud going "did this band use drugs? bla bla bla"... my opinion is , in progressive rock mostly, there must be at least 90% of bands that touched drugs at least once in their life. Drugs arent so bad yo know
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:53

I'll have a beer when hanging out with friends (which unfortunately doesn't happen often - too busy)

That's it really. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:22
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

I really love marijiuana. I think the amount of users would mass greatly if it were a legal substance.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 18:17
^ I'm not so sure about that. And I think it doesn't need to be legalized, I dont wanna the governement to put their dirty hands in it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 19:43
I believe that certain drugs give you a connection to the source - call it the planet, god, the other side, whatever.

I also believe certain drugs close those doors and turn you into an arrogant t**ser.

I like pot, I like mushrooms. Both have given me a clearer understanding of what it is to be creative, and what it is to be human.

I look at the people around me who take Ecstasy and snort coke... and they're blithering idiots with no sense of immagination at all.
over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.

feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.

reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 19:45
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

[QUOTE=stebo32] but it can mentally cripple users and force them to become almost dependent on the drug to have a good time (similar to alcohol).


This is the only thing I will dispute. It most certainly DOES NOT force anyone to become dependant, and it hasn't crippled me in the slightest.

People who already have mental issues without drugs though, they should steer well clear, and this includes the religious folk.
over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.

feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.

reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2005 at 20:37
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

yea, being stoned gives you a wider consiousness, wether you believe it or not, if you refuse to believe so, then you're just being stupid. and all those discussions aroud going "did this band use drugs? bla bla bla"... my opinion is , in progressive rock mostly, there must be at least 90% of bands that touched drugs at least once in their life. Drugs arent so bad yo know

Maybe so, but I know for a fact that 100% of bands were not on drugs at least once in their lives.
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