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Dick Heath 
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 Posted: November 24 2005 at 09:17 |
 Geck0 wrote:
I just wish I was as good as Duster Bennett was.
Anybody who mentions Duster is okay - his playing on Gotta See My Baby Tonight (Jumpin' At Shadows album released by Indigo Records) sends chills down my spine!
I can play the beginning of Christo Redemptor by Charlie Musslewhite (if anyone knows that),
Shame on those who don't. But I rate Paul Lamb (and the Kingsnakes) slightly ahead - check out their award winning Fine Condition album
but get a bit lost later on when the harp comes back in and I can play Chain Gang by Paul Jones (of the Blues Band)
His best version and especially with his spoken intro, I believe sit on the Alexis Korner Memorial Concert recordings, where he also does a good version of Sonny Boy Williamson - 25 years after Al Kooper massacred the Jones/Bruce composition on the Live Adventures double.
and the Old Gray Whistle Test theme (the band who did that has escaped me).
Was that Asleep At The Wheel???????
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DallasBryan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 12:39 |
from the early 70's Switzerlands KROKODIL
produced one of the best fusions of progressive rock
and blues based rock with the album An Invisible
World Revealed. Harpheads should try that one,
pretty much a classic!
Curiously Krokodil is still not in the
PROGARCHIVES. 
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Chipiron
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 12:43 |
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I can only remember the beginning and the end of the album "Crime of the century" (Supertramp) and I'm not even sure. Sorry.
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stag
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 13:23 |
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The Finnish jazz/rock band "Wigwam" has some nice/romantic harmonica playing on their record "Tombstone Valentine" (1970) in the beginning track of the record "Tombstone Valentine". Not too progressive though.
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 14:05 |
Dick Heath wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
I just wish I was as good as Duster Bennett was.
Anybody who mentions Duster is okay - his playing on Gotta See My Baby Tonight (Jumpin' At Shadows album released by Indigo Records) sends chills down my spine!
I can play the beginning of Christo Redemptor by Charlie Musslewhite (if anyone knows that),
Shame on those who don't. But I rate Paul Lamb (and the Kingsnakes) slightly ahead - check out their award winning Fine Condition album
but get a bit lost later on when the harp comes back in and I can play Chain Gang by Paul Jones (of the Blues Band)
His best version and especially with his spoken intro, I believe sit on the Alexis Korner Memorial Concert recordings, where he also does a good version of Sonny Boy Williamson - 25 years after Al Kooper massacred the Jones/Bruce composition on the Live Adventures double.
and the Old Gray Whistle Test theme (the band who did that has escaped me).
Was that Asleep At The Wheel???????
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The OGWT theme was Stone Fox Chase by Area Code 615. I forget the name of the harmonica player though 
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 21:31 |
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Ah, I shall google it Syzygy!
Thanks for the ideas guys, I'll have a look out for some of them.
Ah, I do remember a Supertramp track with harp on, it gets played on Planet Rock on Digital Radio sometimes...
And Cowbells remind me of Ski Sunday...
Is any of this avant-garde type playing? I'm after weirdness with my harp playing, if that is possible?
I may have to download that Area Code 615 track, as it sounds like a
one-hit wonder type band to me and sort after... I remember the harp
playing, but not much else. My father has it on a cassette tape
somewhere.
If Duster Bennett is your thing, listen to "Fresh Country Jam", it's
amazing. He plays harp whilst playing guitar and high-hat, it's a
little thought provoking how he could do all that at once! Also
listen out for his versions of "Summertime" by George Gershwin.
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Olympus
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 04:52 |
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Chris Squire plays it in a few Yes albums but I can't think of anyone else who plays it.
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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Genesisprog
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:06 |
Its not forbidden.We listen music where can musicians experiment every musical
instruments what ever they like.
Cowbell ,Harmonica,Ukulele what ever.
There are no rules what musical instruments has to been used.
I know metal band that uses pagpipes....
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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all !
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:13 |
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The Dead Kennedys use bagpipes, but they're not prog and they're not my thing...
Interesting instruments that maybe able to be used in prog:
Tuba
Sousaphone
Lute
Spoons...
I actually really like the sound of the Glockenspiel and Xylophone and
I know King Crimson and Colosseum use them, but have yet to hear anyone
else use them as a percussion instrument.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:28 |
Geck0 wrote:
The Dead Kennedys use bagpipes, but they're not prog and they're not my thing...
Interesting instruments that maybe able to be used in prog:
Tuba
Sousaphone
Lute
Spoons...
I actually really like the sound of the Glockenspiel and Xylophone and I know King Crimson and Colosseum use them, but have yet to hear anyone else use them as a percussion instrument.
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Taj Mahal on his first double live album had a backing band of 3 tubas - checking out Diving Duck from that gig. Acoustic guitar master Stefan Grossman occasionally used tuba backing many years ago, e.g. Hot Dogs. What did Django Bates use in Earthworks and Loose Tubes which sounded like a tuba, but wasn't (E???? horn?)?
And what of the hurdigurdi - Richard Thompson for a start?
BTW we have already done the harmonium
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:35 |
Geck0 wrote:
If Duster Bennett is your thing, listen to "Fresh Country Jam", it's amazing. He plays harp whilst playing guitar and high-hat, it's a little thought provoking how he could do all that at once! Also listen out for his versions of "Summertime" by George Gershwin.
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Which version (i.e. which album): the Blue Horizon Sessions or Blue Inside? I played It's Man Down There from Blue Inside, back to back with the Allman Brother's electric version last night - Duster's version is one of three songs on Blue Inside recorded at a Surrey gig in 1969, including Fresh Country Jam and some great reporte with his audience.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:37 |
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On my Gov't Mule DVD, one of the guest performers (within the brass
band) is playing a Sousaphone, an interesting sound that thing
makes..., plus it's rather large and looks very uncomfortable.
Tubular Bells - obvious that one. I guess that album had a lot of
instruments on, I cannot remember them all for the moment. I've
also seen the Tubular Bells concert on television, it's a must see for
anyone who hasn't seen it and is curious.
Penny whistle, now that must be very hard to use in prog...
Re Duster Bennett: The live version played at The Toby Jug, Godalming I
believe, yes the one with Bright Lights Big City, It's A Man Down There and Fresh
Country Jam on it. The normal version is Country Jam I
believe..., it's not so manic.
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:40 |
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As for the harp: Moody Blues's Ray Thomas played a nice solo on "22.000 days" ("Long Distance Voyager").
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
PETER HAMMILL
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:43 |
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Actually, I don't think Bright Lights Big City was played, it was
another tune, the name escaped me for the moment. Bright Lights
Big City was from another gig, which included Just Like A Fish and Just
Like A Treat You and some others and they're on the original Justa
Duster album I believe and now on the Blue Horizion Sessions CD.
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Genesisprog
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:52 |
The list of musical instruments that we can use in prog can be very very long
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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all !
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paulindigo
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 06:21 |
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As for pennywhistle, it's featured on Supertramp's (again!) first
album and on Tubular Bells. In both cases it's referred to as a
flageolet. I know that in origin flageolet was a different instrument
from the tin whistle/pennywhistle, now I think the word is used as a
homonym.
As for the cowbell, listen to Procol Harum's Whiskey Train, it's
almost the main instrument.
Supertramp have harmonica on several songs: School from Crime of
the Century, Take the long way home from Breakfast, something
from their first (don't remember the title...) etc.
Tuba was used by Herbie Flowers on Camel's Nude
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:16 |
Geck0 wrote:
Actually, I don't think Bright Lights Big City was played, it was another tune, the name escaped me for the moment. Bright Lights Big City was from another gig, which included Just Like A Fish and Just Like A Treat You and some others and they're on the original Justa Duster album I believe and now on the Blue Horizion Sessions CD. |
I think the three live tracks on offer on Blue Inside, have a slight edge on those found on the Blue Horizon Sessions - there must be 5 or more CDs of Duster Bennett outtakes, demos etc, released by Indigo, although at least one of the later releases looks to be a repackaging and shuffling of tracks from the first 3 albums.
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CandyAppleRed
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:36 |
Chipiron wrote:
I can only remember the beginning and the end of the album "Crime of the century" (Supertramp) and I'm not even sure. Sorry. |
I'm pretty sure it was on the opening of "School", but I may be wrong - not heard it for years!
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DallasBryan
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:50 |
does anyone have a clue why Krokodil(Switzerland),
which made the best example of progressive rock
using the harmonica as a central instrument, is not
in the ProgArchives? Is it TOO NOT Symphonic
English styled?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 12:30 |
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I have all the Indigo CDs (well, I have one, my brother has the others,
but their at the house at the moment, because I've borrowed them) as
well as the Australian only release. I now also own the Blue
Horizon Sessions too, so I have most of his stuff.
I agree, the Toby Jug, Godalming recordings are better than the
official Blue Horizon live tracks (from Justa Duster album
originally). There's a Man Down There and Fresh Country Jam are
just the best examples of his one man band playing.
I really want to hear experimental harp playing, especially on a prog tune.
Keep the bands who played harmonica coming, it's much appreciated.
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