Coheed and Cambria

The material on their website displays their more mainstream side. Coheed's material includes a large array of styles, which is best displayed on, but not limited to, In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3. Furthermore, no two Coheed songs sound the same. Their progressive material is surely worthy of being included on this website. Songs such as "The Crowing," "2113," and the entire "Willing Well" series. Even the poppy material far exceeds its contemporaries. Coheed takes basic, accessible material, and expands on it. I don't think any pop-punk/rock band out there could write that type of material on par with them. Even their simplest material contains much depth and emotion, not to mention that it is all revolving around a concept, which spans over multiple albums. Much like in movies, the styles used in the songs correllate to what's happening in the story at the time. Movies don't use the same music throughout its entirity, likewise, this story doesn't. For example, the catchy, uptempo songs "33" and "A Favor House Atlantic" both take place in what's supposed to be a chase scene. The music fits the part.

Also, I have seen them numerous times live. They are great musicians, and they can pull of an extended improve jam quite well.

I would reconsider them for addition to the site. I would elaborate further, but I am on a tight schedule.

I don't think that this band was given enough of a chance. I'm not even a fan of Co&Ca, but I've listened to their latest album in it's entirety. While I wouldn't necessarily consider them straight up "Prog Rock", especially when compared to The Mars Volta, as every reviewer in every publication I've read feels the need to do, but they are definately "Rock Prog", if you will, Rock with much Prog influence. By judging the band solely based on their singles, you're effectively discarding them as another emo/pop-rock act, which is entirely foolish. Listen to the newest album, Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV: Volume 1 - From Fear Through The Eyes Of Madness. In fact, if you don't want to listen to the entire album, I suggest at least giving the first 3 and definately final 2 tracks of the album a chance, as I think it will sway your opinion. All of the tracks Coheed has made videos for, released to radio, and made available as samples on their site are the poppiest, non-prog of their songs. If you listen to the two singles from their last album you'll swear there is no way this band can be prog, but actually spin the disc and I'm sure you'll change your tune. At least give them a proper listen before discarding them as something other than prog, I feel it makes the archive look very incomplete to not even try and give them a chance.

Franklinstower3 wrote: well if we have deep purple and queen on here it sort of opens the floodgates and i suppose they should be put on the archives but the songs i heard on their site were not bad songs except THOUSANDS OF BANDS BEFORE THEM HAD DONE THE EXACT SAME THING. Explain to me how doings something many have done before is progressive?!

That doesn't have anything to do with being prog. Progressive vs. Prog. Of course it's best if a band is totally innovative. But IMO that should affect the ratings and reviews only ... not the question if the music is prog or not.

well if we have deep purple and queen on here it sort of opens the floodgates and i suppose they should be put on the archives but the songs i heard on their site were not bad songs except THOUSANDS OF BANDS BEFORE THEM HAD DONE THE EXACT SAME THING. Explain to me how doings something many have done before is progressive?!

Let's try to separate quality and prog/not prog. I would fight for C&C to be included ... and it's entirely possible that I'd give them 2 star ratings.

BaldFriede wrote: Jean and I have been to their website and listened to the examples there. Unlews someone comes up with something better, we say "no thanks". Not prog at all.

I'm not sure if the samples on their website were of the proggier songs, so I don't know how much of a judgement you can make from those.  They're certainly not prog if you compare them to a band like Genesis.  But they certainly are prog when compared with their contempories, in a similar way that Queensryche are prog when compared with their contempories.

I can understand one not considering Coheed & Cambria prog, the album of theirs I heard was borderline at best.

However, their new album is supposed to be pure prog.  If this is true, maybe it could be used to sway people into accepting them on the site.

I had read your review before. I think it is highly interesting what mental images music creates within people; sadly for me the only mental image "Terria" creates is of me on a long and winding road in the midst of a heavy thunderstorm (the music on the album), and somewhere in the distance there is a cottage where i will find shelter (the album's end).
But you may look forward to something: Jean and I have decided that IF (there is a big question mark behind this "if" though) we ever make a 2nd album, it will be a prog-metal one, or at least how WE think prog-metal should be.
The album will have the title "Bald Heavy Metal Angels", by the way.

the videos on their website are extremely cheesy, by the way, whatever one thinks of the music

about the same level, I'd say. If this is basis for inclusion, fine ; personally I think the concept of "progressive rock" has been watered down way too much if either Townsend or C&C are included. why not include Abba ?

seriously though: please point out the progressive elements in either C&C or Townsend

Edited by BaldJean