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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 13:03 |
BaldFriede wrote:
It has nothing to do with personal taste; actually we like the music. But it isn't prog. If there is any prog in Coheed and Cambria, it is there in homoeopathic doses. You can of course suggest a new category named "homoeo-prog", and they woiuld fit very well there. |
You're evading the question. Are they more or less progressive than Devin Townsend?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 12:58 |
It has nothing to do with personal taste; actually we like the music. But it isn't prog. If there is any prog in Coheed and Cambria, it is there in homoeopathic doses. You can of course suggest a new category named "homoeo-prog", and they woiuld fit very well there.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 12:48 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Jean and I have been to their website and listened to the examples there. Unlews someone comes up with something better, we say "no thanks". Not prog at all. |
Is this based on your personal taste or on the definition of prog that this website uses? I remember you having extreme difficulties with Rush and Devin Townsend as well.
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Logos
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 12:18 |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 11:49 |
Jean and I have been to their website and listened to the examples there. Unless someone comes up with something better, we say "no thanks". Not prog at all.
Edited by BaldFriede
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goose
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 09:57 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Also, I can't really decide if they take
themselves seriously or not.
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I don't know, I think it's entirely possible to take not taking yourself seriously seriously... if that means anything
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 09:43 |
Logos wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Agreed. I'm sure they will be accepted ... only someone needs submit them for addition. |
They were already turned down once. |
Those were different times ... a lot has changed since then (The Band Admissions Team was not yet in place).
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Logos
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 09:05 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Agreed. I'm sure they will be accepted ... only someone needs submit them for addition. |
They were already turned down once.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:44 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
After months of internal debate about this band, I finally figured out why simultaneously I love and hate them. They are a progressive rock band. They write solid, entertaining songs. However, I think they incorporate all of the lame, embarrassing, excessive parts of prog (i.e. extremely high vocals, disgustingly long song/album titles, and a general flair for the bombastic), and few of the real progressive elements. Also, I can't really decide if they take themselves seriously or not. By reading the comics and listening to the albums alone, you might think they are actually serious about their music, but watching their music videos and live shows, you might think otherwise. |
IMO "taking themselves seriously" is a very important thing ... I think that Cradle of Filth's music is progressive, but they're not taking music seriously enough.
I think that C&C are genuine artists though ... intuitively, after listening to the samples.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:42 |
After months of internal debate about this band, I finally figured out
why simultaneously I love and hate them. They are a progressive
rock band. They write solid, entertaining songs. However, I
think they incorporate all of the lame, embarrassing, excessive parts
of prog (i.e. extremely high vocals, disgustingly long song/album
titles, and a general flair for the bombastic), and few of the real
progressive elements. Also, I can't really decide if they take
themselves seriously or not. By reading the comics and listening
to the albums alone, you might think they are actually serious about
their music, but watching their music videos and live shows, you might
think otherwise.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:36 |
Agreed. I'm sure they will be accepted ... only someone needs submit them for addition.
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horza
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:13 |
coheed and cambria - prog and excellent
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Logos
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:09 |
I find it pretty strange too!
C&C : Great band, art rock.
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GFoyle
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 03:55 |
Yeah, it's strange. Maybe it's because nobody has been willing to write them
a description and info about the band?
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video vertigo
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 03:31 |
Friday night I read my local paper and in the concert section was a 1 page article describing a band called Coheed and Cambria and prog-rock. It described that the band was playing here locally and what progressive rock music is and why Coheed and Cambria are exactly that. So now the band claims to be prog, their fans claim they are prog, many members of this site agree, they release concept albums, and fit the description given by this website of prog-rock, and news journalists claim they are prog. But still this site cannot add them to the page. progarchives.com, your ultimate prog resource but it includes bands that most don't regard as prog and doesn't include bands that are clearly prog.
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