Dream Theater vsVan Der Graaf Generator

Seyo wrote: What a stupid poll: you cannot compare totally different stuff!

It's not totally different : they are both rock acts, not for example classical music on one hand and rock on the other hand.

Easy answer : VDGG !

magog wrote: Doesburger wrote: Prog-metal doesn't exist. It's a pure creation of metal/hard-rock fans who just wanted to have more recognition for their music. If your genre doesn't bring enough money, attach it (by force) to a better-known one... et voila. We have the mess that we have now in our hands. Now what about then : Abba = prog-disco? Celine Dion = prog-sh*t? Bush = prog-idiot? That's exactly what this poll proves. Fans of prog prefer prog. Could be wrong of course! LOL Trust a prog-fan to be so serious about such stupid subjects. No wonder the world is going down the drain. I'm with you, boy

You guys are not alone. You know, I´ve been reading so many pro-dream notes lately, that yesterday I played both "Awake" and "Images and words". Two of the very best right?...Well, I was entertained for one and a third albums. ..I really couldn´t continue. At the end I could not remember a single note I had just heard. Metal is just so monotonous, Metal prog is a little more bearable. Iron maiden, Whether plain metal or not, presents more diversity.

I can listen to The flower kings 3 times longer than to Dream T. Despite Flower kings´ conventional diversity. At least you can listen to them without feeling annoyed by the hard sounds. Flower Kings´music is generic prog but still, I can listen to them for hours as background.  

I haven't heard VDGG but with that reactions I WILL because you guys seam to love them.

I didn't vote ofcourse.

Prog-metal doesn't exist. It's a pure creation of metal/hard-rock fans who just wanted to have more recognition for their music. If your genre doesn't bring enough money, attach it (by force) to a better-known one... et voila. We have the mess that we have now in our hands.

This is just wrong.  Will you care to define for me what exactly being a progressive musician is?  I've always considered progressive to be a prefix to a genre.  A musician would be made progressive through unconventional creativity, technicality, distinct tonality, unconventional song structure, and etc.  That's why we have Progressive Rock, Progressive Metal, and Progressive Jazz (also considered to be Modern Jazz).  Other genres have this too, just take country rock and country pop.  Progressive is a style of play, it really isn't a genre.

Dream Theater does have unconventional creavity, i would say an album like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is very technical, progressive, and structured.  Futhermore, when Dream Theater came out, not many bands were playing progressive metal the way that they were.  Their technical ability is well understood.  Everybody knows these guys can play in intricate keys using unconventional times signatures.  Dream Theater has a distinct tonality as well.  Jordan Rudess does an excellent job of staying away from the "typical" synth sounds that musicians so often use.  Dream Theater is well structured too.  Their songs are made up of many parts and many technical parts as well.  These songs are extremely difficult to memorize on any insturment.

Dream Theater was very creative before Train Of Thought came out.  I would agree with most fans in saying that their creativity is a little drained now, but that shouldn't take away from what they've done in the past. Images and Words has a brilliant song structure, Awake does an excellent job of keeping a similar atmosphere throughout many changes in tonality throughout the album.  Falling Into Infinity is not very progressive, but i find it to be well structured.  Scenes From a Memory is brilliant, this album portrays many different moods using many different tonalities, and very unconventional synth sounds.  Six Degrees further expands with the forty-two minute epic that can make someone feel so many different things with so much technical intricacy.  I love Dream Theater and i think up to this point they have been a very creative and progressive band.

I totally agree: There is no point for comparing Dream Theater and Van Der Graaf Generator... They're both way to different and even though they're both prog, they are not related or share a common thing...

On the other hand, I voted for VDGG, not because I am a hudge fan of them, but because I think "classical" is always on the top... No matter what... They're bands that influenced others and because they changed the way of music...