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Kubla Khan
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:31 |
Odysseus wrote:
I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........
Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though. |
prejudice...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:32 |
Odysseus wrote:
I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........
Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though. |
Their last two album started to evolve beyond grunge ... but they never got complex enough to be called prog. But songs like Spoonman could easily qualify as Prog Metal, and Applebite might be called Post Rock ... but it's simply not enough.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:46 |
Get offa Tool You bastards!

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goose
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 17:31 |
Kubla Khan wrote:
Odysseus wrote:
I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........
Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though. |
prejudice...
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OK Mariah Carey is prog, if you say she isn't you must be prejudiced against pop music.
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Hangedman
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Joined: November 03 2004
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 19:05 |
Kubla Khan wrote:
does anyone of the people in desagree have listened to "superunknow" or "down on the upside" ?
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Yup, listening to Superunkown at this exact moment actually, and no still not prog.
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Kubla Khan
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 21:46 |
Hangedman wrote:
Kubla Khan wrote:
does anyone of the people in desagree have listened to "superunknow" or "down on the upside" ?
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Yup, listening to Superunkown at this exact moment actually, and no still not prog. |
analize it!
you could get the time signatures o f each song...and the tunings...listen to down on the upside album.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: September 12 2005 at 21:46 |
Kubla Khan wrote:
Odysseus wrote:
I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........
Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though. |
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The ultimate grunge band was MOTHER LOVE BONE
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 05:02 |
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goose
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 05:50 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Kubla Khan wrote:
Odysseus wrote:
I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........
Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though. |
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The ultimate grunge band was MOTHER LOVE BONE
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Uh uh, try for Malfunkshun 
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Hangedman
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Posted: September 13 2005 at 11:41 |
Thats not a good outlook, what if i followed you around going
Garfield

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Ben2112
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 00:57 |
Kubla Khan wrote:
soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,
they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.
in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings , guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.
albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside
superu nknow.
bye! |
Great great band that is in my top 5 of the '90's, but come on...
This is getting a bit silly.
Edited by Ben2112
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Trotsky
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 03:40 |
Ben2112 wrote:
Kubla Khan wrote:
soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,
they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.
in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings , guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.
albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside
superu nknow.
bye!
| Great great band that is in my top 5 of the '90's, but come on...
This is getting a bit silly.  |
Although ironically enough ... the Soundgarden stuff I've heard isn't too different from the King's X stuff I've heard (and there were a few people championing their inclusion) ... personally, based on what I've heard (which I admit is a minority of each group's output) I would describe neither as being even close to progressive rock
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 03:47 |
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boo boo
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 05:11 |
I think they were very progressive, but what some folks need to realise is that progressive dosent always equal prog if you know what i mean, progressive music and prog are not the same, if they were, that would make stravinsky more prog than soundgarden, if anybody is really worthy of the archives, its the beatles, they should make the archives before the doors, zeppelin and especialy soundgarden, not only because they had several prog elements in their later albums(especialy sgt peppers and the white album)but because they also played a role in progs creation as well, IMO sgt pepper was a prog album anyway you look at it, that dosent mean the beatles themselves are a prog band but the point is they made a prog album, zeppelin had houses of the holy and the doors had soft parade, those 3 bands at least made 1 prog album, soundgarden havent, they may have made a couple of prog songs or whatever but they never made an overall progressive rock album...anyway im not saying the beatles should be added, just that i would rather see them added before any other "kinda" or "almost" prog band.
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anael
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 19:57 |
-BOOOOO!!!!!!
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Ben2112
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 21:44 |
Trotsky wrote:
Ben2112 wrote:
Kubla Khan wrote:
soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,
they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.
in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings , guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.
albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside
superu nknow.
bye!
| Great great band that is in my top 5 of the '90's, but come on... This is getting a bit silly.  |
Although ironically enough ... the Soundgarden stuff I've heard isn't too different from the King's X stuff I've heard (and there were a few people championing their inclusion) ... personally, based on what I've heard (which I admit is a minority of each group's output) I would describe neither as being even close to progressive rock |
Yeah I know what you're saying. I'm probably the biggest King's X fan on this site, but I have never, and would never, push for their inclusion.
As far as Soundgarden and KX being similar in some respect, I absolutely agree. Heck, many of the better Seattle bands name King's X as a primary influence, what with the psychedelic vibe and the dropped-D riffage. I know Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam have name-dropped the mighty KX on occasion, and it wouldn't surprise me if Soundgarden had too.
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Retrovertigo
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Joined: June 17 2005
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 22:43 |
Wow, way to go guys. Just ridicule this person for requesting Soundgarden, very welcoming. ,
no I don't think they are prog, in fact I think they were more
influenced by Black Sabbath and The Stooges. I don't think
they're influenced by Pink Floyd either. I still think Chris
Cornell has one of the best voices in music and that Badmotorfinger and
Superunknown are great records.
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 23:10 |
what's next nirvana!!!!
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Posted: September 14 2005 at 23:12 |
come on guys this go back to the root to the root to the rooot
band like these hate fvcking prog!!!!!!!!!
Get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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boo boo
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Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:47 |
darksideone wrote:
what's next nirvana!!!!  |
Great band, one of my favorites, most certainly not prog, but i think The 60s band Nirvana could make the Archives.

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