Print Page | Close Window

Add SOUNDGARDEN to the archives!

Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11386
Printed Date: March 03 2025 at 16:47
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Add SOUNDGARDEN to the archives!
Posted By: Kubla Khan
Subject: Add SOUNDGARDEN to the archives!
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 12:24

soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,

they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.

in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings ,  guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.

 

albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside  

                                                superunknow.

 

bye!




Replies:
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 12:32
No! Great band, even really quite original sometimes, but nothing whatsoever to do with prog!


Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 12:36
, sorry I really like soundgarden but NOT prog, just good alternative.


Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 12:44


-------------
http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">


Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 13:23
Are you out of your f+cking mind?

-------------
http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 13:42

^true

soundgarden



-------------
http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm


Posted By: Kubla Khan
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 15:59

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Are you out of your f+cking mind?

 

 

i think that soundgarden deserve to be here more than other bands like...nightwish! 



Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:52
Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Are you out of your f+cking mind?

 

 

i think that soundgarden deserve to be here more than other bands like...nightwish! 

definitely....I would have said Tool but I want to live

soundgarden are great



-------------
"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 18:04
Originally posted by porter porter wrote:

soundgarden are great
so?


Posted By: The Minstrel
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 19:06

No way are they prog. 



Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 19:51
Surely you must be kidding.  Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath aren't prog, and there's no Floyd influence in their music whatsoever.  They're a good band, but in absolutely no way are they related to prog.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 20:27
Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,

they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.

in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings ,  guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.

 

albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside  

                                                superunknow.

 

bye!

What are you......on DOPE?????

You can explain it any way you like it,they aren't prog and never will be

And Cameron playing on Lee's solo cd isn't much of an argument.It's a good cd,but more hard rock than prog.



-------------




Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 20:29
Originally posted by porter porter wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Are you out of your f+cking mind?

 

 

i think that soundgarden deserve to be here more than other bands like...nightwish! 

definitely....I would have said Tool but I want to live

Good call



-------------




Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 03:20
Originally posted by porter porter wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Are you out of your f+cking mind?

i think that soundgarden deserve to be here more than other bands like...nightwish! 

definitely....I would have said Tool but I want to live



So let me tell it (goodbye cruel world):

Tool
Nightwish
Angra
Rhapsody
Queen
Deep Purple
... and SOUNDARDEN never were and never will be prog!
 

-------------
http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm


Posted By: Kubla Khan
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 15:28
hey guys ! can you relax for a while?

i was trying to be objetive,

soundgarden have a unique sound, kim thayil can make sound his guitar like a moog.the man is areally landscape builder.
Soundgarden compositions  have  many differents and unnusual time signatures and tunnings that mekes them so original .

in this aspects they deserve to be here more than deep purple , rhapsody(i love this one) ,nightwish.




does anyone of the people in desagree have listened to "superunknow" or "down on the upside" ?



the addition of mars volta was animate me to make this forum.


bye!
peace and love!



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 15:45

Soundgarden are a great band, and some songs from Superunknown and Down on the upside are sufficiently complex ... but they're not prog.

Actually, I wonder if Chris Cornell - Euphoria Morning could be included. That album is a real gem - wonderful mellow music, not at all like Soundgarden.



-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls

Listened to:


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 15:58
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Actually, I wonder if Chris Cornell - Euphoria Morning could be included. That album is a real gem - wonderful mellow music, not at all like Soundgarden.

That's interesting, wasn't Cornell involved with someone from a prog band at some point? My memory may be playing tricks on me, of course.


Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:15
Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Originally posted by porter porter wrote:

soundgarden are great
so?

nothing, I just wanted to say that.



-------------
"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")


Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:17
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by porter porter wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Are you out of your f+cking mind?

 

 

i think that soundgarden deserve to be here more than other bands like...nightwish! 

definitely....I would have said Tool but I want to live

Good call



-------------
"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")


Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:27
I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........

Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though.


Posted By: Kubla Khan
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:31

Originally posted by Odysseus Odysseus wrote:

I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........

Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though.

 

 

prejudice...



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:32

Originally posted by Odysseus Odysseus wrote:

I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........

Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though.

Their last two album started to evolve beyond grunge ... but they never got complex enough to be called prog. But songs like Spoonman could easily qualify as Prog Metal, and Applebite might be called Post Rock ... but it's simply not enough.



-------------
https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls

Listened to:


Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 16:46

Get offa Tool You bastards!



-------------
http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 17:31
Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Odysseus Odysseus wrote:

I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........

Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though.

 

 

prejudice...

OK Mariah Carey is prog, if you say she isn't you must be prejudiced against pop music.


Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 19:05

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:



does anyone of the people in desagree have listened to "superunknow" or "down on the upside" ?

Yup, listening to Superunkown at this exact moment actually, and no still not prog.



Posted By: Kubla Khan
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 21:46
Originally posted by Hangedman Hangedman wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:



does anyone of the people in desagree have listened to "superunknow" or "down on the upside" ?

Yup, listening to Superunkown at this exact moment actually, and no still not prog.



analize it!

you could get the time signatures o f each song...and the tunings...listen to down on the upside album.







Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 21:46
Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Odysseus Odysseus wrote:

I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........

Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though.

 

 

prejudice...

The ultimate grunge band was MOTHER LOVE BONE



-------------




Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 05:02
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Get offa Tool You bastards!



Tool
 

-------------
http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 05:50
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

Originally posted by Odysseus Odysseus wrote:

I don't think grunge has anything to do with prog.........

Sorry, I see SG more as one of the ultimate grunge bands. Not prog though.

 

 

prejudice...

The ultimate grunge band was MOTHER LOVE BONE

Uh uh, try for Malfunkshun


Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 11:41
Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Get offa Tool You bastards!



Tool
 

Thats not a good outlook, what if i followed you around going

Garfield



Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 00:57
Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,


they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.


in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings , guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.





albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside


                                                           superu nknow.



bye!

Great great band that is in my top 5 of the '90's, but come on...

This is getting a bit silly.


Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 03:40
Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:

soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,


they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.


in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings , guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.





albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside


                                                           superu nknow.



bye!

Great great band that is in my top 5 of the '90's, but come on...

This is getting a bit silly.

Although ironically enough ... the Soundgarden stuff I've heard isn't too different from the King's X stuff I've heard (and there were a few people championing their inclusion) ... personally, based on what I've heard (which I admit is a minority of each group's output) I would describe neither as being even close to progressive rock



-------------
"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”

"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."


Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 03:47
Originally posted by Hangedman Hangedman wrote:

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Get offa Tool You bastards!



Tool
 

Thats not a good outlook, what if i followed you around going

Garfield



You bastard Garfield is far more proggier than you so leave him alone. Tool sux





-------------
http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm


Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 05:11
I think they were very progressive, but what some folks need to realise is that progressive dosent always equal prog if you know what i mean, progressive music and prog are not the same, if they were, that would make stravinsky more prog than soundgarden, if anybody is really worthy of the archives, its the beatles, they should make the archives before the doors, zeppelin and especialy soundgarden, not only because they had several prog elements in their later albums(especialy sgt peppers and the white album)but because they also played a role in progs creation as well, IMO sgt pepper was a prog album anyway you look at it, that dosent mean the beatles themselves are a prog band but the point is they made a prog album, zeppelin had houses of the holy and the doors had soft parade, those 3 bands at least made 1 prog album, soundgarden havent, they may have made a couple of prog songs or whatever but they never made an overall progressive rock album...anyway im not saying the beatles should be added, just that i would rather see them added before any other "kinda" or "almost" prog band.


Posted By: anael
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 19:57




    -BOOOOO!!!!!!

-------------


Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 21:44
Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kubla Khan Kubla Khan wrote:


soundarden is a graet band with a unique and original sound,


they are influenced by led zeppelin, black sabath and PINK FLOYD.


in his last three albums they develop a progressive way of make music, using many different time signatures riffs , using diferent kinds of guitar tunings , guitarist kim thayil make an exellent "athmospherical use of the guitar" that at times he can make it sound as a synth only with basic effects ,other point is that matt cameron -the drummer- works with geddy lee solo album.



albums i recomended to hear: down on the upside


                                                                superu nknow.



bye!


Great great band that is in my top 5 of the '90's, but come on... This is getting a bit silly.


Although ironically enough ... the Soundgarden stuff I've heard isn't too different from the King's X stuff I've heard (and there were a few people championing their inclusion) ... personally, based on what I've heard (which I admit is a minority of each group's output) I would describe neither as being even close to progressive rock



Yeah I know what you're saying. I'm probably the biggest King's X fan on this site, but I have never, and would never, push for their inclusion.

As far as Soundgarden and KX being similar in some respect, I absolutely agree. Heck, many of the better Seattle bands name King's X as a primary influence, what with the psychedelic vibe and the dropped-D riffage. I know Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam have name-dropped the mighty KX on occasion, and it wouldn't surprise me if Soundgarden had too.


Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 22:43
Wow, way to go guys.  Just ridicule this person for requesting Soundgarden, very welcoming.  , no I don't think they are prog, in fact I think they were more influenced by Black Sabbath and The Stooges.  I don't think they're influenced by Pink Floyd either.  I still think Chris Cornell has one of the best voices in music and that Badmotorfinger and Superunknown are great records.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 23:10
what's next nirvana!!!!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 23:12
come on guys this go back to the root to the root to the rooot
band like these hatefvcking prog!!!!!!!!!
Get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:47

Originally posted by darksideone darksideone wrote:

what's next nirvana!!!!

Great band, one of my favorites, most certainly not prog, but i think The 60s band Nirvana could make the Archives.



Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 15:38

Great piece of music,and great band.Kim is an incredible guitar player .He has a style of his own.Propably the best band of what they call Grunge.I hate labels but since we're on PROGarchives it would be a little difficult to put a band with Zeppelin and Mc5 influences here.




Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd. - http://www.webwiz.co.uk