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EVO
Forum Groupie Joined: February 01 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 44 |
Topic: Recommendations Posted: February 01 2004 at 16:29 |
ive noticed a mistake in the eloy discography. the album land of nobody does not exist. and the cover is from time to turn (the heavy metal world wide pressing) heavy metal world wide has reissued some albums with different (rodny matthews) covers. |
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maani
Special Collaborator Founding Moderator Joined: January 30 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2632 |
Posted: February 01 2004 at 16:41 |
Well, you asked, so... If and when time is available, I can think of a few groups who would seem to deserve a place on the site. First and foremost, XTC should be included. I can help here if requested (as I did with The Church). Second, I think 10CC deserves to be included, especially in as much as Supertramp and Klaatu are both represented, and 10CC is just as prog, if not moreso, than either (I can help with 10CC as well). Also, 10CC and Supertramp are contemporaries, and Klaatu acknowledges both as influences. Third, I would include Babble (New Zealand), even though they only released two albums. I think if you listen to them, you will agree that they are "prog" at least as much as some others currently on the site. Fourth, I might include Skeleton Key (U.S.). Although they are not entirely "prog," they have definite prog roots and influences. I recommend a listen or two to their new album, Obtainium. Finally, I realize and appreciate that you approached your "categories" from a very keen perspective. However, I would suggest that there should be another category, and that some bands already present are "mis-categorized" in that respect. The missing category is "progressive pop" (which is not an oxymoron) or just straight "progressive rock." This is the category in which I would put Supertramp, Klaatu, 10CC, XTC, The Church, and others, including Godley/Creme (ex-10CC), and, possibly, Queen. Either that, or all of them would have to be categorized as "art rock," though some of them are not. Thanks for the forum, and keep up the amazing work! |
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maani
Special Collaborator Founding Moderator Joined: January 30 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2632 |
Posted: February 01 2004 at 17:36 |
Addendum: I'm guessing that Frank Zappa is missing because he has so many albums that it would take a year just to make his "piece" of the site! |
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corbet
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 101 |
Posted: February 02 2004 at 05:23 |
I'd like to see some Amon Duul II, Zappa, and Todd Rundgren -- three of my favorites. Of course, Zappa will be an ordeal for obvious reasons; and Todd will be a strange case to deal with, considering he released dozens of albums that are not prog in any sense, yet a handful that are prog in the best sense! Oh classification, when "Hello it's Me" and "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire" (37 minute synth-prog beast) come from the same dude... |
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Alexander
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 237 |
Posted: February 02 2004 at 20:22 |
I also reccomend adding: The Muffins. |
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Peter
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: February 03 2004 at 00:47 |
I'm going to echo the call for the essential Amon Duul II, again!
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Gonghobbit
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 03 2004 Status: Offline Points: 232 |
Posted: February 03 2004 at 14:09 |
Alexander's recommendation of The Muffins is a good one, but an even more prominent ommission from the site to date is GONG, they really must be here.
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Gonghobbit
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 03 2004 Status: Offline Points: 232 |
Posted: February 03 2004 at 18:15 |
OK, pretty funny, just wait for me to complain about Gong not being thyere, and then put them up Thanks, I see it is a bit of work putting just their listing together, for me as a fan there's those half dozen main releases, and loads of extraneous, but interesting, stuff.
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M@X
Forum & Site Admin Group Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4028 |
Posted: February 03 2004 at 19:08 |
GONG is apearing on www.progarchives.com since 2 days ... Discography not complete but soon willl ... Thanks you all for your recommendations !!! Continue .... |
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Dan Bobrowski
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5243 |
Posted: February 03 2004 at 21:26 |
What about "Zen Rock and Roll" from Progrock records?
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Peter
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: February 04 2004 at 20:44 |
Let's not forget David Sylvian (collaborations with Holgar Czukay -- ex Can) and Fripp.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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Alexander
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 237 |
Posted: February 04 2004 at 21:54 |
I would reccomend Frank Zappa as well, but that would be very time consuming. For another Soft Machine MP3 to add would be "As Long Has He Lies Perfectly Still" from Volume Two would be good.
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M@X
Forum & Site Admin Group Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4028 |
Posted: February 05 2004 at 11:21 |
Thanks Alexander for your MP3 suggestion
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Gonghobbit
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 03 2004 Status: Offline Points: 232 |
Posted: February 05 2004 at 16:05 |
Chris Cutler is probably worth listing, being a driving force behind the RIO thing. Here's his site for info... http://www.ccutler.com/ 'As Long as He Lies' is a great one, good recommendation young Alex.
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Alexander
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 237 |
Posted: February 05 2004 at 19:00 |
Yeah, Chris Cutler was the Philosopher of Henry Cow. Thanks, I'll try & recommend more Mp3 additions! |
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M@X
Forum & Site Admin Group Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4028 |
Posted: February 06 2004 at 00:18 |
As recommended
Are being added to the progarchives.com discography ! To PROGLUCKY for his great work ! |
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Alexander
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 237 |
Posted: February 06 2004 at 01:28 |
Fantastic! |
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Lookout
Forum Newbie Joined: February 06 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 24 |
Posted: February 06 2004 at 14:12 |
I'm going to wander really far here but I'll skip over many details, so for those of you with a bit of patience, I hope there will be a reward. I was variously spoiled rotten and cursed in my early 20's to be a broke student who was turned onto a record import store whose owner became a dear friend and mentor. The song that started it all was Ripples from A Trick of the Tail. I was soon listening to all of Genesis, KC, Yes, etc.. etc... etc... I skipped over the Canterbury scene, but I'm catching up now. I got into music from 24 countries, and collected vinyl from a dozen. Japanese was the best, Italian the worst. After a year or two we started exploring the avantguarde. So the immediate question is does the AG have a place here? Regardless, I'd like to see Tangerine Dream, Art Zoyd, and of course, Amon Düül added here. The bands I got into were The Hafler Trio, :Soviet-France:, Nurse With Wound, Fred Frith (whose discography is monstrously huge), and many groups I bought one and only album or CD by (such as Einstuerzende Neubauten, Kranioklast, P16.D4, The Music of Adolph Woolfli...) Lately I've investigated a collaborator with Frith, Bill Laswell, also of monstrous discography infamy. From here I've checked out Buckehead, altho I find he ranges too much into metal to my taste. Henry Kaiser is another who worked with Frith. I have a few vinyl albums of exceptional rarity in my collection. Power Assume by P231 (numer 72 of 150) and one of I believe 1,500 that on one side says Blackhouse and the other Hope, and I know nothing more about it, but the album is awesome. I went far enough into the AG to have nowhere else to go for many years. My passion for music took me where music had profound dispassion. It didn't get me high anymore. It left me feeling neutral and uninspired. The album that got me going again actually has a touch of prog to it - Ophelia by Nathalie Merchant. Since then I've started chipping away at updating my music collection. Gentle Giant and Camel were the two bands that inspired me last sumer. There've been a number of others since... |
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Peter
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: February 07 2004 at 04:03 |
Thanks, Proglucky, for the additions, especially Amon Duul II! A fabulous song to include by them would be "Sleepwalker's Timeless Bridge." Really wonderful classic prog! Now, how about Eno and Manzanera/801? |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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corbet
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 101 |
Posted: February 07 2004 at 06:54 |
Peter, You know, I'm beginning to really dig your taste! Sleepwalker's Timeless Bridge is one of my favorite songs ever, from an amazing album. Usually no one talks about Wolf City... |
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