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    Posted: June 01 2005 at 15:10
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

It's funny, I'm not a Dream Theater fan at all, but I think this track is fantastic! I can't really explain.

Maybe it's just a good song

Why couldn't I think of that  ? 
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One of may favorite DT tunes,absolutely brilliant.First time I heard it it gave me goosebumps.


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Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

It's funny, I'm not a Dream Theater fan at all, but I think this track is fantastic! I can't really explain.

Maybe it's just a good song
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It's funny, I'm not a Dream Theater fan at all, but I think this track is fantastic! I can't really explain.
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Originally posted by the dragon the dragon wrote:

Heavy. Heavy, not prog.

But a good song. Top 500.

I'd love to see the other 499

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Well well. Maybe I should ask my brother-in-law to play it to me when next time I visit him (I know he is a DT-Fan), but so far DT never did anything to me, so it must really be something special to give me a kick.


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Heavy. Heavy, not prog.

But a good song. Top 500.

 

 

 

 

 

 
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The best... the greatest... those are really big words...
Anyway, I find A Change of Seasons a very enjoyable track, especially the live version. Maybe DT's best for me (I'll need some time for Octavarium to settle down, it might take that position...)
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One of the best Dt songs and progepics!

Only one remark - one of guitar solos in the middle seem to me inspired (not to say borrowed)by some 70's song. The problem is that I don't know the name of that group because I only heard that song one time by chance on the radio.

If someone gave me an idea what about that song and band...
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I don't mean to sound biased, but it's the best song I've heard.

And that's speaking out of everything from any band I have heard up 'til now.

"Don't listen to me."

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"A Change Of Seasons" is the greatest progepic I have ever heard.

Actually its the very defenition of progressive rock! I have listened to that track, probably 500 or so times, I never get enough of it. I always get as much excited every time, its beautiful. I have few words actually.

Those guys can really play!

But I havent heard the "...New York" live version yet! I have even problems admitting it.

Can anyone tell me if there are any other such songs, the same caliber. I would certainly take it to account!

And to all of You who have sead good things about this song: Cheers!

And for those who dont like it!, I cant believe  it, You really cant understand much of prog rock. Go home and listen to Oasis in stead!

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One of the only DT songs I can enjoy to any extent.
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/\ It's damn well in the top fifty
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A CHANGE OF SEASONS IS THE GREATEST SONG EVER WRITTEN!!!

 

In my opinion.

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Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

Originally posted by Riph Riph wrote:

I think it's one of the best heavy metal songs ever written.


i think you nailed it.

it probably is a great heavy metal song but not a great prog song.

Paranoid is a great heavy metal song. ACOS is not like Paranoid. ACOS is much more complex, with odd time signatures, different sections, keyboard layers, ... it is as prog as prog can be. What you fail to see (IMHO of course) is that there are various forms of prog. The most fitting of which seems to be prog metal in this case. If ACOS is not prog metal, what is?
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Originally posted by Riph Riph wrote:

I think it's one of the best heavy metal songs ever written.


i think you nailed it.

it probably is a great heavy metal song but not a great prog song.
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Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

I think it is excellent, and it has always had a bit of a Close To The Edge vibe to it for me, especially Mike's drumming, which seems more Bruford-inspired on this song, whereas he usually sounds very Peart-inspired to me. Great 7-string acoustic intro too!

I agree. IMO, the question of originality aside, it's even slightly better than CTTE, as the particular sections flow into one another more logically. 

I admit, the joining of CTTE's four movement's is at times irrational, but it is still the supreme Prog Epic

Why then should it be considered the sureme Prog Epic? Shouldn't the supreme prog epic be inspired, inspiring, innovative AND cohesive?

EDIT: I don't want to start an argument over CTTE here, I simply detect double standards at play.



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Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

I was going to reply with all the reasons why, but then decided to hold my peace about why I don't like this song.  It would only make you mad and start a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" war that won't accomplish anything.  Let's just leave it that I don't even think it's good music let alone good prog.

Ah yes, the old "I wasn't going to reply with my objective opinions not to start an unnecessary argument so I replied I wasn't going to reply with my objective opinions not to start an unnecessary argument - (although I'm really making this reply just to have the last word and, with luck, to start an unnecessary argument and not be held responsible for starting it just because I had told everyone I wanted to avoid it in the first place)- argument"

OK, JMCecil let's hear 'em if you want them out so badly.   



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Originally posted by JMCecil JMCecil wrote:

I was going to reply with all the reasons why, but then decided to hold my peace about why I don't like this song.  It would only make you mad and start a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" war that won't accomplish anything.  Let's just leave it that I don't even think it's good music let alone good prog.

Obviously you don't like the song, that's fine with me. But what objective reasons are there that lead you to the statement that it's "bad" music or even not prog at all? I'm a musician, and I'm curious to see if there are specific elements of this song that drive people off, is it the singing, the heavy parts, ...   
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