A Change Of Seasons (The Song)
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Topic: A Change Of Seasons (The Song)
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: A Change Of Seasons (The Song)
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 16:08
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I love this epic ... some others don't. I honestly don't know why some of you don't like it ... what is good/bad about it, which other similar epics would you prefer? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 16:10
| I think it's one of the best heavy metal songs ever written. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 16:17
| I think it is excellent, and it has always had a bit of a Close To The Edge vibe to it for me, especially Mike's drumming, which seems more Bruford-inspired on this song, whereas he usually sounds very Peart-inspired to me. Great 7-string acoustic intro too! |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 16:29
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I agree. IMO, the question of originality aside, it's even slightly better than CTTE, as the particular sections flow into one another more logically. ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Ben2112 wrote:Posted By: Unifaun
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 17:10
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its really good, i espeically love the live scenes from new york version where mike portnoy goes off stage and comes back in a bathrobe and they randomly play the theme from the simpsons in the middle of it! To conclude their 3 hour set, James Labrie announces to the audience "sorry for the short set list!" Dream Theater are brilliant, more brilliant than you  xxx ------------- 
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Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 17:58
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Brialliant song. However if you manage to hear the version which is found in Live Scenes From New York, it is a hell of a lot better. Very cool improvisation bit in the middle section as well. ------------- "Just as a bell that has been rung cannot be "unrung", the annoying problem with the Truth is that, once you learn it, you can not "unlearn" it." |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 18:05
I admit, the joining of CTTE's four movement's is at times irrational, but it is still the supreme Prog Epic ------------- 
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Posted By: JMCecil
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 18:28
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I was going to reply with all the reasons why, but then decided to hold my peace about why I don't like this song. It would only make you mad and start a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" war that won't accomplish anything. Let's just leave it that I don't even think it's good music let alone good prog. |
Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 18:41
Hahah, I have those CDs too, I love all of it. It was a GREAT concert, especially some of the different stuff they throw in. The order of songs is great too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/FishyMonkey/?chartstyle=artists"> 
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Posted By: KeyserSoze
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 19:52
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A Change Of Seasons = one of the best progmetal songs ever! |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:23
| By FAR, tha best song by Dream Theater. I believe that anybody could love this one, even the DT haters. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:29
I have listened to it maybe three times on the 'live scenes' CD but it didn't do anything for me i'm afraid. Maybe its one of those songs that will eventually grow on you in time if you play it often enough. I'll give it another blast tomorrow! 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 22:00
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It is not my favorite Dream Theater song, but its definitely in my top 5 with Learning to Live, Trial of Tears, Space-Dye Vest and Metropolis, I just love that song, its so amazing. And no the ultimate Progressive Metal epic would not be this song, but rather Learning to Live :) |
Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 00:07
| I actually like this song, even though I've never really liked any of the other Dream Theater I've heard. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 04:39
Obviously you don't like the song, that's fine with me. But what objective reasons are there that lead you to the statement that it's "bad" music or even not prog at all? I'm a musician, and I'm curious to see if there are specific elements of this song that drive people off, is it the singing, the heavy parts, ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 04:54
Ah yes, the old "I wasn't going to reply with my objective opinions not to start an unnecessary argument so I replied I wasn't going to reply with my objective opinions not to start an unnecessary argument - (although I'm really making this reply just to have the last word and, with luck, to start an unnecessary argument and not be held responsible for starting it just because I had told everyone I wanted to avoid it in the first place)- argument OK, JMCecil let's hear 'em if you want them out so badly. ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 05:08
Why then should it be considered the sureme Prog Epic? Shouldn't the supreme prog epic be inspired, inspiring, innovative AND cohesive? EDIT: I don't want to start an argument over CTTE here, I simply detect double standards at play. ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 05:28
i think you nailed it. it probably is a great heavy metal song but not a great prog song.  |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 05:44
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Paranoid is a great heavy metal song. ACOS is not like Paranoid. ACOS is much more complex, with odd time signatures, different sections, keyboard layers, ... it is as prog as prog can be. What you fail to see (IMHO of course) is that there are various forms of prog. The most fitting of which seems to be prog metal in this case. If ACOS is not prog metal, what is? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 19:44
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A CHANGE OF SEASONS IS THE GREATEST SONG EVER WRITTEN!!!
In my opinion. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 15 2005 at 05:23
/\ It's damn well in the top fifty ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 15 2005 at 10:43
Top 49 
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 15 2005 at 15:02
| One of the only DT songs I can enjoy to any extent. |
Posted By: northprog
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 11:13
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"A Change Of Seasons" is the greatest progepic I have ever heard. Actually its the very defenition of progressive rock! I have listened to that track, probably 500 or so times, I never get enough of it. I always get as much excited every time, its beautiful. I have few words actually. Those guys can really play! But I havent heard the "...New York" live version yet! I have even problems admitting it. Can anyone tell me if there are any other such songs, the same caliber. I would certainly take it to account! And to all of You who have sead good things about this song: Cheers! And for those who dont like it!, I cant believe it, You really cant understand much of prog rock. Go home and listen to Oasis in stead! ------------- Theres no such thing as strong whiskey, only weak men- Hemingway |
Posted By: undefinability
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 00:31
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I don't mean to sound biased, but it's the best song I've heard. And that's speaking out of everything from any band I have heard up 'til now. ------------- "Don't listen to me." |
Posted By: Yurkspb
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 10:07
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One of the best Dt songs and progepics! Only one remark - one of guitar solos in the middle seem to me inspired (not to say borrowed)by some 70's song. The problem is that I don't know the name of that group because I only heard that song one time by chance on the radio. If someone gave me an idea what about that song and band... |
Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 10:23
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The best... the greatest... those are really big words... Anyway, I find A Change of Seasons a very enjoyable track, especially the live version. Maybe DT's best for me (I'll need some time for Octavarium to settle down, it might take that position...) |
Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 10:26
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Heavy. Heavy, not prog. But a good song. Top 500.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 10:57
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Well well. Maybe I should ask my brother-in-law to play it to me when next time I visit him (I know he is a DT-Fan), but so far DT never did anything to me, so it must really be something special to give me a kick.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 11:41
I'd love to see the other 499 ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 12:42
| It's funny, I'm not a Dream Theater fan at all, but I think this track is fantastic! I can't really explain. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 13:03
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Maybe it's just a good song ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 14:07
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One of may favorite DT tunes,absolutely brilliant.First time I heard it it gave me goosebumps. -------------  |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 15:10
Why couldn't I think of that |