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Poll Question: When did Yes "Jump the shark"?
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9 [10.84%]
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5 [6.02%]
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17 [20.48%]
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    Posted: October 05 2005 at 19:59
For me, "Tormato" was the beginning of the end. Now, I really like that album, but it was no "Going For The One". It rocked hard ("Don't Kill The Whale"), had beautiful melodies ("Madrigal" and "Onward") and excellent playing ("On The Silent Wings Of Freedom" and "Release, Release"), but it somehow failed to attain the ethereal majesty of the preceding albums.

"Tormato", to me, was the first Yes album that did not exhibit a step forward from the previous album. It was a very good album, but I can't say it was stellar.
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Being really critical it was when Bill Bruford left; I might like a lot of what followed but they never again quite reached the heights of CTTE and Fragile.

But the most embarrasing time was the "Buggles" era...oh how my school friends took delight.....and later, Yes without Steve Howe...really wasn't Yes then was it?

And can I ask which sad person suggested they jumped the shark after Tony Kaye left...???!!!


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Originally posted by moonchild moonchild wrote:

Howe left. 90125 released. What new wave influenced pop drivel that was!


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Points: 545 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2005 at 02:47
When Anderson & Wakeman left, Buggles joined ("Drama").
"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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Yes, Time and a Word, the Yes Album, Fragile (CD and DVD-Audio), CTTE, Yessongs, TFTO, Relayer, GFTO, and now Drama. And the Symphonic Live DVD.  I will probably pick upKeys to Ascension and Keystudio eventually.  Any suggestions?
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Points: 299 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 17:03

Whicj Yes albums do you have?
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I skipped Tormato based on the reviews and got Drama instead.  I just bought it last night and I really like it!  Way better than what I expected given the lineup.  But the buck stops there for me.  My Yes collection is now complete as far as I'm concerned.
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Points: 299 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 12:27

Actually, I think Talk was a pretty good album. True it's a departure from the traditional Yes aesthetic but I don't think that's a bad thing either. You've got to challenge yourself. The worse I could say about talk is the production values...a bit antiseptic.
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Personally, I think they jumped the shark after Drama (they really should have called the band something different for 90125) although ironically, they crawled back onto it with the release of 'Talk', which is arguably one of the most underrated albums of the 90's. (I think I'm about to be publically flogged by the right wing of the Yes Fan Club).
Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Points: 7374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 10:31
90125 wasn't that bad, but they've never really recovered and done anything amazing since then.
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Points: 299 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 09:04

Yes has gone through a series of changes, some successfull others less so. I don't think they have ever jumped the shark though. I think Danbo put it best, "their worst output is another groups crowning achievement" or words to that effect. 

I think the groups low points were:

Tormato: A let down after Going for the one

Drama: They were looking for a new direction, unfortunately, this wasn't it.

Union: The fact that they actually toured behind this is clear evidence they were only in it for the money. 

 
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Who do you think played FONZI?
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It has always been my opinion that 90125 onwards through the rabin era was not Yes music. The only resemblance to Yes was the great man's voice!They targeted commercialism via their Rabin pop/rock arena like outpourings.
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Howe left. 90125 released. What new wave influenced pop drivel that was!
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Well Drama put me off Yes way back when and I have never recovered. 
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Points: 1125 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2004 at 06:29
Absoloutely brilliant onion, where on earth did you dig up that info?Of course there were all sorts of rude versions of Robin Hood Robin Hood riding through the glen,but I shall refrain from going into that.
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Points: 42 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 19:24

Interesting(?)  fact - the 1960's Robin Hood show had a theme tune that went 'Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen....' *

It was sung by a guy called Dick James.

Who took the money he made from the song and started Dick James Music (DJM)

He signed Lennon/McCartney (in 1962) as a subsidiary (Northern Songs) and made millions! Then made another fortune with Elton John.

Jammy bugger!

 

*Similar to 'Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore....'

 
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Points: 433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2004 at 18:54

This is my fave tv series, i have the Micheal Praed series on dvd and I love it to pieces. Wonderful, each time i watch, when i hear the music I get shivers. The scenery and acting is fantastic Connery could never replace Praed, Robin of Loxley. Magic. Pure excellence. wow.



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Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

..have just watched Robin of Sherwood my fave tv series from anytime!What with great storylines and acting and the truly wonderful music from Clannad.

Completely off topic I know, but I though the Michael Praed RoS episodes were excellent. The series "Jumped the shark" when Jason Connery took over the roll, he was wooden and wet!Confused
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Points: 1125 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2004 at 20:03
Just been perusing the poll looks like the rabin era is  clear favourite as being the time!Easy Livin great thread It's late but I'm on holiday and have just watched Robin of Sherwood my fave tv series from anytime!What with great storylines and acting and the truly wonderful music from Clannad.
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