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King of Loss
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Posted: July 24 2005 at 13:16 |
King of Loss wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The Accolade wrote:
Great album, much better than their muse orientated new album 'Octavarium' |
It's just the 7th track. But Awake is really much better than Octavarium, that's a given.
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Yea I would agree with you, the only two tracks I really loved on (Octavarium) were The Answer Lies Within and the awesome title track, but other than that, it really was not that great for me. On Awake, Dream Theater becomes a huge innovator within themselves and changes their sound into the more modern DT sound that we know. Like it or not, Awake is one of those discs that contains some of the best instrumentation that a Progressive artist has ever done. |
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Jared
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Posted: July 24 2005 at 12:41 |
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when I first heard it back in 1994, I had already got Images & Words, but I had never heard anything like it...I just couldn't get 'Caught In A Web', 'Mirror' & 'Lie' out of my head for MONTHS. I would be standing by the photocopier, completely oblivious that a colleague was talking to me, because the riffs would be going round & round...mesmerising!
as an aside, there is a theme from 6:00 taken from James Joyce's Dubliners, and from 'Space Dye Vest' taken from EM Forster's A Room With A View...thought you might be interested..
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bityear
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Posted: July 24 2005 at 12:39 |
The most solid DT album, in my opinion. The sound bugs me, though,
something sounds unnerving. But then again, CDs didn't sound good until
1995... 
Some tracks are really lame, though, like, Caught in a Web. And,
Octavarium has some lame tracks as well, but the best tracks there are
just better. So Octavarium: 4, Awake, 3,5.
What's cool with Awake is the party factor.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 24 2005 at 04:22 |
hiddenpath wrote:
for me awake has a unique vibe to it, not present in any of the opther DT albums. Thatīs why I consider it so good. Itīs difficult comparing between albums cause they are different from on e another. for me the best is Scenes, then |
I guess that Images, Awake and Scenes are all valid candidates for "best DT album". It depends on your background which on you choose as your favorite.
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hiddenpath
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Posted: July 23 2005 at 22:28 |
for me awake has a unique vibe to it, not present in any of the opther DT albums. Thatīs why I consider it so good. Itīs difficult comparing between albums cause they are different from on e another. for me the best is Scenes, then
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 18:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The Accolade wrote:
Great album, much better than their muse orientated new album 'Octavarium' |
It's just the 7th track. But Awake is really much better than Octavarium, that's a given.
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Yea I would agree with you, the only two tracks I really loved on Awake were The Answer Lies Within and the awesome title track, but other than that, it really was not that great for me. On Awake, Dream Theater becomes a huge innovator within themselves and changes their sound into the more modern DT sound that we know. Like it or not, Awake is one of those discs that contains some of the best instrumentation that a Progressive artist has ever done.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 17:36 |
The Accolade wrote:
Great album, much better than their muse orientated new album 'Octavarium' |
It's just the 7th track. But Awake is really much better than Octavarium, that's a given.
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The Accolade
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 14:23 |
Great album, much better than their muse orientated new album 'Octavarium'
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liquidtheater
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 11:07 |
Its good but not the best. Its not even close to scenes or images.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 13:18 |
Somewhere between 3 and 4 stars. Definitely not in the same league as SFAM, which is a solid five star album. IMHO of course.
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Hammill
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 13:11 |
Bj-1 wrote:
However, how would you rate "Awake" (from 1-5 stars)? |
6/5.....it is a masterpiece
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Evan1211
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Posted: July 17 2005 at 10:24 |
Awake is my favorite mostly because it has a sound that is unique to this album. Songs like "Erotomania" and "6:00" are classics.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 15 2005 at 17:50 |
Bj-1 wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
It is my personal favorite DT album, and is probably the last "classic" DT album. I love it. It features some of the best songwriting from DT ever IMO. It makes SFAM look average. 4.9 stars |
I agree that it's the last of the "classic" DT albums. In fact, only Images, Awake and ACoS are the classic DT albums. It's connected to Moore, or at least they changed their songwriting after he had left.
I wouldn't call Scenes "average" though. It's brilliant in it's own way ... I would rate both Awake and Scenes 5 stars. all of their other albums except WDADU are 4 stars for me ... they are all exceptional in different aspects.
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I love SFAM too, but it's nothing compared to I&M or Awake.
The "classic" DT albums, IMO, is:
- When Dream & Day Unite
- Images & Words
- Live At The Marquee (live)
- Awake
- A Change of Seasons (EP)
- Probably 'Falling Into Infinity'
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WDADU and FiI are totaly different from the others ... by "classic" I meant that these three albums have a consistent sound. They established that sound with Images, perfected it on Awake and ACoS, and lost it with FiI. Then they reached another consistent phase with Scenes, 6DoIT and ToT. Octavarium is not like anything they did before, just like FiI was. Their next album should be interesting again ...
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Bj-1
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Posted: July 15 2005 at 17:33 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
It is my personal favorite DT album, and is probably the last "classic" DT album. I love it. It features some of the best songwriting from DT ever IMO. It makes SFAM look average. 4.9 stars |
I agree that it's the last of the "classic" DT albums. In fact, only Images, Awake and ACoS are the classic DT albums. It's connected to Moore, or at least they changed their songwriting after he had left.
I wouldn't call Scenes "average" though. It's brilliant in it's own way ... I would rate both Awake and Scenes 5 stars. all of their other albums except WDADU are 4 stars for me ... they are all exceptional in different aspects.
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I love SFAM too, but it's nothing compared to I&M or Awake.
The "classic" DT albums, IMO, is:
- When Dream & Day Unite
- Images & Words
- Live At The Marquee (live)
- Awake
- A Change of Seasons (EP)
- Probably 'Falling Into Infinity'
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 15 2005 at 17:22 |
Bj-1 wrote:
It is my personal favorite DT album, and is probably the last "classic" DT album. I love it. It features some of the best songwriting from DT ever IMO. It makes SFAM look average. 4.9 stars |
I agree that it's the last of the "classic" DT albums. In fact, only Images, Awake and ACoS are the classic DT albums. It's connected to Moore, or at least they changed their songwriting after he had left.
I wouldn't call Scenes "average" though. It's brilliant in it's own way ... I would rate both Awake and Scenes 5 stars. all of their other albums except WDADU are 4 stars for me ... they are all exceptional in different aspects.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 15 2005 at 17:17 |
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Bj-1
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Posted: July 15 2005 at 16:47 |
However, how would you rate "Awake" (from 1-5 stars)?
Edited by Bj-1
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King of Loss
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Posted: July 09 2005 at 21:40 |
transend wrote:
Does this mean 'When dreams ..' is a classic? And 'Scenes from a memory' is just crap?
How odd
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I find that odd too, but that's someone else's opinion... So.. really...
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transend
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Posted: July 09 2005 at 21:31 |
Does this mean 'When dreams ..' is a classic? And 'Scenes from a memory' is just crap?
How odd
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Arsillus
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Posted: July 09 2005 at 20:39 |
Awake is awesome. Voices and Lie are my favourite songs.
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