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    Posted: September 17 2023 at 09:21
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Guy Guden didn't invent Pirate Radio as far as I know. Europe and The UK had Radio Luxemborg and Radio Caroline. The latter was very good with prog and supported it past the whole punk thing.
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Guy always credited these Pirate stations and it was loud and clear on his original promos and id's. "they played the music you couldn't hear". I would think that the word "Space" was added to it as a way to bring about a new form and feeling. But in many ways, nowadays, when compared to the amount of "progressive" stuff in shows out there, Guy's show is still the ultimate "Pirate Radio", when most of the other shows are too recognizable, sound similar and often the same, as a lot of stuff out there.

In this sense, Guy's show is not predictable at all!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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Anyway Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio didn't exist in my part of the world in the time of my formative years. I know he's still at it. I've never been a radio person though. We traded music, created our own clubs, and INTRODUCED leftfield music to each other. Something I haven't stopped doing.
Not exactly on topic ... but Guy's show has never been for a "radio person" at all. And this was one of the parts that he took a lot of flack for. The show is, was, a lot more of a conceptual mix
The only time I do listen to radio is while driving to our cabin. Then we always listen some show with a conceptual mix in one way or another. "Radio shows that's not for radio persons" aren't hard to find. Not where I live. Not anymore.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2023 at 23:21
Guy Guden didn't invent Pirate Radio as far as I know. Europe and The UK had Radio Luxemborg and Radio Caroline. The latter was very good with prog and supported it past the whole punk thing. I heard them play extended tracks incluidng all of Tubular Bells on one occasion. Radio Luxemborg was a fun listen when I was 12 or 13. It was a good station for youngsters and way better than BBC Radio which often was crappola and populated by lets say dodgy characters (excepting our beloved Alan ''Fluff'' Freeman who got hs own prog show on a Saturday afternoon, but even that was shunted away. Still fond memories though of him getting excited about UK's debut release). Radio Luxemborg also put ELP at NO1 when Fanfare For The Common Man was out there.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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Anyway Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio didn't exist in my part of the world in the time of my formative years. I know he's still at it. I've never been a radio person though. We traded music, created our own clubs, and INTRODUCED leftfield music to each other. Something I haven't stopped doing.

Hi,

Not exactly on topic ... but Guy's show has never been for a "radio person" at all. And this was one of the parts that he took a lot of flack for. The show is, was, a lot more of a conceptual mix, way back when about all European music ONLY, and now, it is by far the best mix of music with the listing of artists encompassing over 70 years ... and in many ways the ONLY really "progressive" show out there that is not tied to a silly definition and sound.

So it all depends on what one feels is "radio-friendly", because in many ways that means ... a format, and a sound that is recognizable to everyone's ears. I am not sure that the folks responding are aware of the massive difference in that concept, but the OP is not, I don't think, interested in "different" ... it's looking for stuff that he will play when he gets in front of a microphone, I guess! Wink


Edited by moshkito - September 16 2023 at 23:01
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^ Didn't come across as particularly mean to me. You can do far worse. Except you skipped the part where I called myself an idiot. But that's not really mean either. 

Anyway Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio didn't exist in my part of the world in the time of my formative years. I know he's still at it. I've never been a radio person though. We traded music, created our own clubs, and INTRODUCED leftfield music to each other. Something I haven't stopped doing.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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Although ELP sold millions of albums back in the 70's I've never heard Karn Evil 9 on radio (I have however heard every band on my own list though). In fact I've never heard half of the songs on your list on radio where I live. You think the whole world listens to Kansas just because you do? But its no surprise as I've gotten used to both brits and americans thinking other countries has no cultural identity on their own. 


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Without trying to sound mean, all of DE's list was played on the FM band in Santa Barbara and LA, for sure. The problem might be that in Podunk, TN you will never here any of it, because of too much Country Music, or something like it. 

You might not even be aware of it, but in the 70's several bands in LA sued the top radio stations because their material was not being played, and they won the thing, though many of the stations merely put up a couple of hours per week for some of these bands, many of which that were a part of the Penelope Spheeris specials. But there were, in LA several stations that played a lot of "imports" as so much of this stuff was known then (Genesis was all "imports" until SEBTP in terms of the release times!).

Even though Santa Barbara is not a major market like LA, I can post a quick list of Space Pirate Radio material for 1975/1976/1977/1978 and 1979 ... even though that listing of mine is likely to not even be half the number of bands ... and it will give you a much better idea of how much of this stuff was well known in the LA area, and places like Moby Disk sold this stuff and the "imports" ... and did really well at least through much of the 1980's when the distribution of these changed somewhat and stuff was available in America. 

By then, I think many of these bands had gotten "beyond" the radio thing, and things like TD and KS that were more "eccentric" were not heard much, but I can tell you that Guy played them all ... in their entirety, too!

"Accessibility" for radio, was a joke ... and Guy used to post some of the insults and jibes he took for being so adamant about all these things, and he never got credit for getting many bands on the air that he should ... including Average White Band (introduced with a spoof on the radio bosses! "it will never be a hit!"), Supertramp, Golden Earring, Gentle Giant, Roxy Music, Peter Hammill/VdGG, Nektar, TD, KS and so many more ... impossible to list them all! 

And the music itself, just about did not need radio after 1985 ... many did it on their own, including the likes of Marillion that got the fan club to pay for their studio time for at least 2 albums, that helped them stay alive ... as sales took off! Not to mention a certain SW that started a band in his garage on his own and sold cassettes, until one day the suits began knocking his door down because it was selling BIG!


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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Something like this:

Caravan - Hello Hello (#7 version)
Can - Mother Sky (the 6:41 Cannibalism-edit for the my one longer song)
Captain Beefheart - Long Neck Bottles
Kevin Ayers - Song For Insane Times
Neu! - Neuschnee
Amon Düül II - Archangels Thunderbird
Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children (single edit)
Pink Floyd - Embryo (1970-studio version from Picnic - A Breath of Fresh Air)
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And all of these were played, and then some, on Guy Guden's show way back when ... I still have over 300 hours of his stuff all the way from 1974 to 1980, and many of these were "staples" of the show.

And yes, they were played on radio by many folks, and Guy was not the only one that did not give acahoot about the commercial side of things, and many of the artists have appreciated his dedication to the music, and it shows in the hundreds of ID's and promos for the show. FM radio was better than we gave it credit for, up until early 1980's when the great Corporate Rape took place in America. (... they bought all the FM stations so they were no longer independent!) I think it was Texaco, that bought out the Santa Barbara station ... don't quote me on it.
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Here's another list:
Tony Banks - Water out of Wine
Sylvan - Worlds Apart
Supertramp - Logical Song
Peter Hammill - Just Good Friends
Steve Hackett - Hoping Love Will Last
Tori Amos - Crucify
Grobschnitt - Snowflakes
Camel - West Berlin
Kraftwerk - Taschenrechner
Irmin Schmidt - Roll On Euphrates
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Frank Zappa - Peaches en Regalia
Echolyn - A Short Essay
Arena - Friday's Dream
The Flower Kings - Underdog
Spock's Beard - Waste Away
Porcupine Tree - Trains
Focus - Sylvia
Uriah Heep - The Wizard
Gentle Giant - Two Weeks In Spain
Banco - Traccia 2


Hopefully there's nothing wrong with instrumentals since three of mine here are. Also I almost picked number one by Gentle Giant and June by Spock's Beard but didn't think they were really prog enough.



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updated list:
Pendragon - Starfish and The Moon
Muse - Verona
Southern Empire - Hold On To Me
Big Big Train - Alive
IZZ - Don't Panic
Isobar - Elves are go!
It Bites - This Is England
Lonely Robot - A Model Life
Frost* - Pocket Sun
The Mute Gods - Tardigrades Will Inherit The Earth

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Off the top of my head.

Spock's Beard - All on a Sunday
Steely Dan - Dirty Work
Echolyn - The Cheese Stands Alone
Dream Theater - Hollow Years
Fates Warning - Another Perfect Day
Todd Rundgren - Compassion
Mike Keneally - Live in Japan
Freak Kitchen - Breathe
Izz - I Move
Wippy Bonstack - Beautiful Stain

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Originally posted by Dapper~Blueberries Dapper~Blueberries wrote:

1. Fantastic Place - Marillion
2. Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes
3. Kayleigh - Marillion
4. Elephant Talk - King Crimson
5. From The Flame - Leprous


Elephant talk really ?
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Barclay James Harvest - Hymn
Camel - Your Love is Stranger Than Mine
ELP - I Believe in Father Christmas
Genesis - Follow You, Follow Me
The Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
Mike Oldfield with Maggie Reilly - Moonlight Shadow
Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall
Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade of Pale
Renaissance - Northern Lights
YES - Owner of a Lonely Heart
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I considered what prog music (and prog bands) actually has been played on radio (considering many of the selections by other posters have never been played on the radio, or at least not since the mid-70s, and have at least a hint of commercial appeal):
Although ELP sold millions of albums back in the 70's I've never heard Karn Evil 9 on radio (I have however heard every band on my own list though). In fact I've never heard half of the songs on your list on radio where I live. You think the whole world listens to Kansas just because you do? But its no surprise as I've gotten used to both brits and americans thinking other countries has no cultural identity on their own. 

Karn Evil 9 was played to death on American and Canadian airwaves, and I believe that most sentient posters here recognize and have heard the songs on the radio from the list I posted. I've never really listened to Kansas at all, but evidently the album Leftoverture went 6x platinum around the world, indicating that even knuckle-dragging dolts from your country bought the album. 

Otherwise, I don't give a damn about your feelings of insignificance, cry about your inadequacies elsewhere.
Haha. Sorry I missed your reply... five years ago. Yep, well deserved and I have no excuse for my infinite stupidity.
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1. Fantastic Place - Marillion
2. Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes
3. Kayleigh - Marillion
4. Elephant Talk - King Crimson
5. From The Flame - Leprous
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In no particular order, here are my top ten accessible, radio-friendly prog songs:

1. Arena - Enemy Without
2. Echolyn - Winterthru
3. ELO - Can't Get It Out of My Head
4. The Flower Kings - Vox Humana
5. Galahad - Julie Anne
6. Genesis - Follow You Follow Me
7. IQ - One Fatal Mistake
8. Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
9. Marillion - Dry Land
10. Pain of Salvation - Second Love
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fischman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2018 at 20:32
I would have said the most obvious choice is Kansas: Carry on My Wayward Son...

But then I remembered that the radio edit cut out quite a chunk, so I don't think that counts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 08:50
Radio friendly prog songs...is this the first bubblegum prog thread...?



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kingsnake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 02:44
Strange nobody mentioned John Miles or Meatloaf (Jim Steinman)

They created some extended songs with tempochanges and are almost(!!!) proggy, and huge hits.

Furthermore, nobody I know have ever heard of King Crimson or Anathema.
Mostly people know Owner of a Lonely Heart and Dust in the Wind, so they can be considered huge hits.

But the band that really everybody on this planet knows and have scored huge hits with proggy songs are still Queen (Bohemian Rhapsody, Innuendo, Who Wants to Live Forever, Killer Queen).
And maybe Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin (but most people know only 1 or 2 songs by these bands).
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Triumvirat-Lucky Girl

Wallenstein-I Can't Lose

Rush-Best I Can

Wishbone Ash-Blowin' Free

ELP-From The Beginning

all that come to mind for now
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