Top 10 Accessible, Radio-Friendly Prog Songs
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Topic: Top 10 Accessible, Radio-Friendly Prog Songs
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Subject: Top 10 Accessible, Radio-Friendly Prog Songs
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 09:20
(Neither an April Fool's joke or a pun. )
Imagine you've been working at a radio station for a year now. For the most part you've just been helping out other hosts with their shows--and yes, that includes doing the coffee runs. However, you've just been given your own radio show to host where you'll be bringing prog to the masses. As much as you would like to play ten epics, well... you can't. The station still needs to air commercials and all that, so for your show you'll need ten songs that:
-Will interest the regular listeners of the station. You can decide what the radio station plays regularly (classic rock, hard rock, music from 'x' country only etc.) -The songs must be 5 minutes or less for the most part. (Can be a few seconds over) -You may have one longer song in your radio show, at most 7 minutes long. Again, it has to interest your audience. -You can have songs with a bit of swearing in it, as it'll be edited out. If swearing is the whole song, probably not a great choice.
For example, a station that plays at heaviest Metallica and lightest The Rolling Stones: -Devin Townsend--The Fluke (LONG SONG) -Voivod--Into My Hypercube -Pink Floyd--Have a Cigar -Jethro Tull--Overhang -Genesis--I Know What I Like -The Mars Volta--L'via L'viaquez (single version) -Rush--YYZ -Tool--Sober -Devin Townsend--Bend it Like Bender! -Rush--Spirit of Radio
It's surprisingly difficult!
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 10:28
Time stand still - Rush (that might be over 5 mins..)
Living in the past - Jethro Tull
Kayleigh - Marillion
Roundabout (single version) - Yes
Northern Lights - Rennaisance
House of the King - Focus
The Mars Volta--L'via L'viaquez (single version) - yes, I stole that from your list. Good choice!
Man of our times - Genesis
Heartbeat - King Crimson
Edit: Yeah, The Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 10:58
Don't know how proggy they are but I always enjoy hearing the ELP singles on the radio:
Lucky Man
From The Beginning
Still You Turn Me On
and all of the early Moody Blues songs.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 01:48
Renaissance - Northern Lights Jethro Tull - Living In The Past ELP - Fanfare For The Common Man Muse - Take a Bow Aphrodites Child - The Four Horseman Big Big Train - Make Some Noise IQ - Through The Corridors Kayak - Royal Bed Bouncer Yes - Wonderous Stories
my seven minute track Edgar Winter Group - Frankenstein
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Posted By: Mystic Mamba
Date Posted: March 31 2018 at 22:47
In the order I would play them
Frost* - Numbers Steven Wilson - Hand Cannot Erase Flying Colors - Bombs Away Rush - Time and Motion Yes - Life on a Film Set TSO - Mozart and Memories Dream Theater - Hell's Kitchen It Bites - Fahrenheit 311 - Sometimes Jacks Rule the Realm (actual song is only 5 minutes) Toto - Great Expectations (7 minute track)
I tried to pick some underappreciated/lesser known songs
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 31 2018 at 23:20
Pink Floyd: Arnold Layne Caravan: Golf Girl Yes: Roundabout King Crimson: I Talk To the Wind Rush: Circumstances Genesis: Timetable Wigwam: Losing Hold Jehtro Tull: Alive & Well & Living In Magma: Kobaia Family: Mellowing Grey
I think there are more than one over five minutes, but who cares...
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 00:51
Man, I had a whole list but forgot to copy and paste and so captcha(crapsha)got me and everything I typed was gone. I'll try again tomorrow.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 00:57
Something like this: Caravan - Hello Hello (#7 version)
Can - Mother Sky (the 6:41 Cannibalism-edit for the my one longer song) Captain Beefheart - Long Neck Bottles Kevin Ayers - Song For Insane Times Neu! - Neuschnee Amon Düül II - Archangels Thunderbird Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children (single edit) Pink Floyd - Embryo (1970-studio version from Picnic - A Breath of Fresh Air) King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Road Train Trees - Murdoch
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Posted By: Argos
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 04:06
Genesis - Harold the Barrel Genesis - Counting Out Time Faust - The Sad Skinhead King Crimson - Cat Food (the most Syd Barret-era Pink Floyd song ever) King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Beginner's Luck Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill Pink Floyd - Not Now John Pink Floyd - Wut's... Uh the Deal Pink Floyd - The Gold It's in the... Riverside - #Addicted Riverside - Lost (Why Should I Be Frightened by a Hat?)
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 04:51
Saga - On the Loose Queen - Killer Queen Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights Yes - Long Distance Runaround Supersister - Radio Renaissance - Nothern Lights Camel - Never Let Go (single version) Jethro Tull - Living in the Past Barclay James Harvest - Child of the Universe (single version) Mike Oldfield - To France
From 1970 - 1982. I posted only songs that were released as singles and not obscure songs. I left out Moody Blues, Genesis, Caravan, Pink Floyd, Eloy, because I could only post 10 songs.
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 06:25
10 bands - a choice from each, with an alternative selection. The odd 'singles edit' needed on a few.
Renaissance - Northern Lights (Carpet of the Sun) Yes - Wonderous Stories (Roundabout) Spock's Beard - June (All On A Sunday) Genesis - I Know What I Like... (Carpet Crawlers) ELP - Fanfare for the Common Man (Lucky Man) It Bites - Cartoon Graveyard (Lights) Jethro Tull - Teacher (One Brown Mouse) Rush - Spirit of Radio (Time Stands Still) Focus - Sylvia (House of the King) Steven Wilson - Lazarus (Nowhere Now)
One extra.........
Marillion - Incommunicato (Sugar Mice)
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 08:23
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Man, I had a whole list but forgot to copy and paste and so captcha(crapsha)got me and everything I typed was gone. I'll try again tomorrow. |
Next time that happens, just go BACK, hit REFRESH, and it will ask you to click the CAPTCHA and has worked for me 100% of the time.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 08:58
Heat Of The Moment by Asia Owner Of A Lonely Heart by Yes That’s All by Genesis Another Brick In The Wall II by Pink Floyd My Mistake by (Prog) Split Enz Sweet Lorraine by Uriah Heep Fanfare For The Common Man by ELP Mr. Roboto by Styx ................I could continue..............
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 09:52
first three that jump to mind...
Yes - Roundabout (duh) ELP - Lucky Man (as I've said.. the ONLY pop song in history you can break your wrist air drumming to. Micky tested.. Micky approved) Tull - Locomotive Breath
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 10:04
................I could continue..............[/QUOTE]
Continue. Great topic.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 10:09
OK let's hear what I play for you today...
Cardiacs - Signs Talk Talk - Living in Another World Can - Spoon Art Zoyd - Konzo Bele King Crimson - Frame by Frame Kate Bush - Cloudbusting David Sylvian - When Poets Dreamed of Angels Novalis - Danmark Amon Düül II - Archangels Thunderbird Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Earth Hymn
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 10:27
Lewian wrote:
OK let's hear what I play for you today...
Cardiacs - Signs Talk Talk - Living in Another World Can - Spoon Art Zoyd - Konzo Bele King Crimson - Frame by Frame Kate Bush - Cloudbusting David Sylvian - When Poets Dreamed of Angels Novalis - Danmark Amon Düül II - Archangels Thunderbird Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Earth Hymn
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I didn't even know "Earth Hymn" - really good!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 11:23
I considered what prog music (and prog bands) actually has been played on radio (considering many of the selections by other posters have never been played on the radio, or at least not since the mid-70s, and have at least a hint of commercial appeal):
Tull - AqualungYes - Roundabout (radio singles edit) ELP - Karn Evil 9: 1st Impression, Part 2 Rush - Anthem Pink Floyd - Run Like Hell Kansas - The Wall Supertramp - Bloody Well Right King Crimson - The Night Watch Genesis - The Carpet Crawlers Alan Parsons Project - Time
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 12:46
The Dark Elf wrote:
I considered what prog music (and prog bands) actually has been played on radio (considering many of the selections by other posters have never been played on the radio, or at least not since the mid-70s, and have at least a hint of commercial appeal): | Although ELP sold millions of albums back in the 70's I've never heard Karn Evil 9 on radio (I have however heard every band on my own list though). In fact I've never heard half of the songs on your list on radio where I live. You think the whole world listens to Kansas just because you do? But its no surprise as I've gotten used to both brits and americans thinking other countries has no cultural identity on their own.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 12:59
Saperlipopette! wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
I considered what prog music (and prog bands) actually has been played on radio (considering many of the selections by other posters have never been played on the radio, or at least not since the mid-70s, and have at least a hint of commercial appeal): | Although ELP sold millions of albums back in the 70's I've never heard Karn Evil 9 on radio (I have however heard every band on my own list though). In fact I've never heard half of the songs on your list on radio where I live. You think the whole world listens to Kansas just because you do? But its no surprise as I've gotten used to both brits and americans thinking other countries has no cultural identity on their own.
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Karn Evil 9 was played to death on American and Canadian airwaves, and I believe that most sentient posters here recognize and have heard the songs on the radio from the list I posted. I've never really listened to Kansas at all, but evidently the album Leftoverture went 6x platinum around the world, indicating that even knuckle-dragging dolts from your country bought the album.
Otherwise, I don't give a damn about your feelings of insignificance, cry about your inadequacies elsewhere.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 14:39
hahhaha...
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 15:31
A few favourites of mine:
Hatfield and the North - Share It Pavlov's Dog - Late November Pink Floyd - Remember a Day King Crimson - Book of Saturdays Camel - Never Let Go (longer than 5 minutes, but shorter than 7) Colosseum - Take Me Back to Doomsday Supertramp - Gone Hollywood Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill North Sea Radio Orchestra - Morpheus Miracle Maker William D. Drake - Distant Buzzing
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 15:34
excellent list darling... especially if you leave off the f**king Camel song hahah
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 15:45
Raff wrote:
North Sea Radio Orchestra - Morpheus Miracle Maker William D. Drake - Distant Buzzing
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I was toying around with Morpheus, too... and "Revere Reach" is playing here as I find your list.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 21:58
My response is based on mid-80s American AOR/classic rock listening.
Rush - Spirit of Radio Kansas - Point of Know Return Emerson, Lake, and Palmer - Karn Evil No. 9, 1st Impression, Pt. 2 Peter Gabriel - Solisbury Hill Genesis- Turn It On Again Planet P - Why Me? Saga - On the Loose Jethro Tull - Locomotive Breath Supertramp - The Logical Song Pink Floyd - Run Like Hell
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 02 2018 at 08:02
The entire first side of Trout Mask Replica. No, make that the entire second side.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 02 2018 at 08:11
^I believe that radio program would have really many complainments and that poor dj never been there back again...
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 02 2018 at 08:14
Yes, way too bubblegum I suppose.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 02 2018 at 08:14
Raff wrote:
A few favourites of mine:
Hatfield and the North - Share It Pavlov's Dog - Late November Pink Floyd - Remember a Day King Crimson - Book of Saturdays Camel - Never Let Go (longer than 5 minutes, but shorter than 7) Colosseum - Take Me Back to Doomsday Supertramp - Gone Hollywood Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill North Sea Radio Orchestra - Morpheus Miracle Maker William D. Drake - Distant Buzzing
| Floyd, Crimson, Colosseum & Kate songs are my big faves (well maybe I would take Cloudbusting from that album).
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: April 02 2018 at 08:36
Rush - Limelight Yes - Time & a Word Genesis - Dance on a Volcano (a little over 5 min.) Renaissance - Carpet of the Sun Tull - Teacher King Crimson - Three of a Prefect pair Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights Frank Zappa - I'm the Slime Moody Blues- The Story in your Eyes ELP - Karn Evil 9 1st Imp. Pt 2
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 02 2018 at 09:54
Yes – “Sweet Dreams” Genesis – “Keep it Dark”
Porcupine Tree – “Stranger by the Minute”
Jethro Tull – “Teacher”
Renaissance – “Spare Some Love”
Bjork – “Isobel”
ELP – “From the Beginning”
Pink Floyd – “Lucifer Sam”
Anathema – “The Lost Song, Part II”
Deathspell Omega – “Kenose I”
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 05 2018 at 14:57
MortSahlFan wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Man, I had a whole list but forgot to copy and paste and so captcha(crapsha)got me and everything I typed was gone. I'll try again tomorrow. |
Next time that happens, just go BACK, hit REFRESH, and it will ask you to click the CAPTCHA and has worked for me 100% of the time.
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Didn't work. I just got "access denied."
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 10:22
In the order I thought of them:
Genesis - Harold the Barrel Zappa & MOI - Montana Hackett - India Rubber Man Hackett - Lost in Your Eyes Hackett - Take These Pearls Gabriel - I Have the Touch Crimson - Frame by Frame Crimson - Matte Kudasai Tull - Living in the Past Jade Warrior - A Winter's Tale
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 21:51
ELP - Lucky Man Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Supertramp - Bloody Well Right Pink Floyd - Have a Cigar Jethro Tull - Songs from the Wood Yes - Wonderous Stories Porcupine Tree - Stars Die Radiohead - Subterranean Homesick Alien Flying Colors - Blue Ocean (7 minute song) King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Barefoot Desert
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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 22:22
"Radio-friendly" might be stretching it since I'm not sure what kind of station would be playing them, but here are some prog songs not-yet-mentioned that I find to be pretty easy on the ears:
Caravan - The Dog, The Dog, He's At It Again Gracious - Blue Skies and Alibis Pink Floyd - Summer '68 Renaissance - Kiev (over 7 minutes, but who cares; just cut out the piano intro and you're good) T2 - J.L.T.
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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: April 29 2018 at 13:25
micky wrote:
hahhaha... | Dude. You're amazing for reviving this on April fools Edit: oh someone else did. ...you can have the credit anyway
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Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 29 2018 at 15:31
Anathema - Dreaming Light (Why isn't this a big classic?) Kansas - Dust in the Wind Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody Marillion - Kayleigh 10cc - I'm not In Love ELP - Lucky Man Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart Rush - Closer to the Heart
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 29 2018 at 16:18
Triumvirat-Lucky Girl
Wallenstein-I Can't Lose
Rush-Best I Can
Wishbone Ash-Blowin' Free
ELP-From The Beginning
all that come to mind for now
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 02:44
Strange nobody mentioned John Miles or Meatloaf (Jim Steinman)
They created some extended songs with tempochanges and are almost(!!!) proggy, and huge hits.
Furthermore, nobody I know have ever heard of King Crimson or Anathema. Mostly people know Owner of a Lonely Heart and Dust in the Wind, so they can be considered huge hits. But the band that really everybody on this planet knows and have scored huge hits with proggy songs are still Queen (Bohemian Rhapsody, Innuendo, Who Wants to Live Forever, Killer Queen). And maybe Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin (but most people know only 1 or 2 songs by these bands).
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 08:50
Radio friendly prog songs...is this the first bubblegum prog thread...?
;)
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: July 21 2018 at 20:32
I would have said the most obvious choice is Kansas: Carry on My Wayward Son...
But then I remembered that the radio edit cut out quite a chunk, so I don't think that counts.
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Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 06 2023 at 21:15
In no particular order, here are my top ten accessible, radio-friendly prog songs:
1. Arena - Enemy Without
2. Echolyn - Winterthru
3. ELO - Can't Get It Out of My Head
4. The Flower Kings - Vox Humana
5. Galahad - Julie Anne
6. Genesis - Follow You Follow Me
7. IQ - One Fatal Mistake
8. Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
9. Marillion - Dry Land
10. Pain of Salvation - Second Love
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Posted By: Dapper~Blueberries
Date Posted: September 15 2023 at 13:05
1. Fantastic Place - Marillion 2. Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes 3. Kayleigh - Marillion 4. Elephant Talk - King Crimson 5. From The Flame - Leprous
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 15 2023 at 13:25
The Dark Elf wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
I
considered what prog music (and prog bands) actually has been played on
radio (considering many of the selections by other posters have never
been played on the radio, or at least not since the mid-70s, and have at
least a hint of commercial appeal): | Although ELP sold
millions of albums back in the 70's I've never heard Karn Evil 9 on
radio (I have however heard every band on my own list though). In fact
I've never heard half of the songs on your list on radio where I live.
You think the whole world listens to Kansas just because you do? But its
no surprise as I've gotten used to both brits and americans thinking
other countries has no cultural identity on their own.
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Karn Evil 9 was played to death on American and Canadian airwaves,
and I believe that most sentient posters here recognize and have heard
the songs on the radio from the list I posted. I've never really
listened to Kansas at all, but evidently the album Leftoverture went 6x
platinum around the world, indicating that even knuckle-dragging dolts
from your country bought the album.
Otherwise, I don't give a damn about your feelings of insignificance, cry about your inadequacies elsewhere. | Haha. Sorry I missed your reply... five years ago. Yep, well deserved and I have no excuse for my infinite stupidity.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 15 2023 at 13:47
Barclay James Harvest - Hymn Camel - Your Love is Stranger Than Mine ELP - I Believe in Father Christmas Genesis - Follow You, Follow MeThe Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin Mike Oldfield with Maggie Reilly - Moonlight Shadow Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade of Pale Renaissance - Northern Lights YES - Owner of a Lonely Heart
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 15 2023 at 17:30
Dapper~Blueberries wrote:
1. Fantastic Place - Marillion2. Owner Of A Lonely Heart - Yes 3. Kayleigh - Marillion 4. Elephant Talk - King Crimson 5. From The Flame - Leprous |
Elephant talk really ?
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 15 2023 at 18:43
Off the top of my head.
Spock's Beard - All on a Sunday Steely Dan - Dirty Work Echolyn - The Cheese Stands Alone Dream Theater - Hollow Years Fates Warning - Another Perfect Day Todd Rundgren - Compassion Mike Keneally - Live in Japan Freak Kitchen - Breathe Izz - I Move Wippy Bonstack - Beautiful Stain
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 15 2023 at 20:57
updated list: Pendragon - Starfish and The Moon Muse - Verona Southern Empire - Hold On To Me Big Big Train - Alive IZZ - Don't Panic Isobar - Elves are go! It Bites - This Is England Lonely Robot - A Model Life Frost* - Pocket Sun The Mute Gods - Tardigrades Will Inherit The Earth
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 08:03
Frank Zappa - Peaches en Regalia Echolyn - A Short Essay Arena - Friday's Dream The Flower Kings - Underdog Spock's Beard - Waste Away Porcupine Tree - Trains Focus - Sylvia Uriah Heep - The Wizard Gentle Giant - Two Weeks In Spain Banco - Traccia 2
Hopefully there's nothing wrong with instrumentals since three of mine here are. Also I almost picked number one by Gentle Giant and June by Spock's Beard but didn't think they were really prog enough.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 08:45
Here's another list: Tony Banks - Water out of Wine Sylvan - Worlds Apart Supertramp - Logical Song Peter Hammill - Just Good Friends Steve Hackett - Hoping Love Will Last Tori Amos - Crucify Grobschnitt - Snowflakes Camel - West Berlin Kraftwerk - Taschenrechner Irmin Schmidt - Roll On Euphrates
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 10:07
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Something like this: Caravan - Hello Hello (#7 version)
Can - Mother Sky (the 6:41 Cannibalism-edit for the my one longer song) Captain Beefheart - Long Neck Bottles Kevin Ayers - Song For Insane Times Neu! - Neuschnee Amon Düül II - Archangels Thunderbird Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children (single edit) Pink Floyd - Embryo (1970-studio version from Picnic - A Breath of Fresh Air) ... |
Hi,
And all of these were played, and then some, on Guy Guden's show way back when ... I still have over 300 hours of his stuff all the way from 1974 to 1980, and many of these were "staples" of the show.
And yes, they were played on radio by many folks, and Guy was not the only one that did not give acahoot about the commercial side of things, and many of the artists have appreciated his dedication to the music, and it shows in the hundreds of ID's and promos for the show. FM radio was better than we gave it credit for, up until early 1980's when the great Corporate Rape took place in America. (... they bought all the FM stations so they were no longer independent!) I think it was Texaco, that bought out the Santa Barbara station ... don't quote me on it.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 10:23
Saperlipopette! wrote:
... Although ELP sold millions of albums back in the 70's I've never heard Karn Evil 9 on radio (I have however heard every band on my own list though). In fact I've never heard half of the songs on your list on radio where I live. You think the whole world listens to Kansas just because you do? But its no surprise as I've gotten used to both brits and americans thinking other countries has no cultural identity on their own.
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Hi,
Without trying to sound mean, all of DE's list was played on the FM band in Santa Barbara and LA, for sure. The problem might be that in Podunk, TN you will never here any of it, because of too much Country Music, or something like it.
You might not even be aware of it, but in the 70's several bands in LA sued the top radio stations because their material was not being played, and they won the thing, though many of the stations merely put up a couple of hours per week for some of these bands, many of which that were a part of the Penelope Spheeris specials. But there were, in LA several stations that played a lot of "imports" as so much of this stuff was known then (Genesis was all "imports" until SEBTP in terms of the release times!).
Even though Santa Barbara is not a major market like LA, I can post a quick list of Space Pirate Radio material for 1975/1976/1977/1978 and 1979 ... even though that listing of mine is likely to not even be half the number of bands ... and it will give you a much better idea of how much of this stuff was well known in the LA area, and places like Moby Disk sold this stuff and the "imports" ... and did really well at least through much of the 1980's when the distribution of these changed somewhat and stuff was available in America.
By then, I think many of these bands had gotten "beyond" the radio thing, and things like TD and KS that were more "eccentric" were not heard much, but I can tell you that Guy played them all ... in their entirety, too!
"Accessibility" for radio, was a joke ... and Guy used to post some of the insults and jibes he took for being so adamant about all these things, and he never got credit for getting many bands on the air that he should ... including Average White Band (introduced with a spoof on the radio bosses! "it will never be a hit!"), Supertramp, Golden Earring, Gentle Giant, Roxy Music, Peter Hammill/VdGG, Nektar, TD, KS and so many more ... impossible to list them all!
And the music itself, just about did not need radio after 1985 ... many did it on their own, including the likes of Marillion that got the fan club to pay for their studio time for at least 2 albums, that helped them stay alive ... as sales took off! Not to mention a certain SW that started a band in his garage on his own and sold cassettes, until one day the suits began knocking his door down because it was selling BIG!
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 22:46
^ Didn't come across as particularly mean to me. You can do far worse. Except you skipped the part where I called myself an idiot. But that's not really mean either.
Anyway Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio didn't exist in my part of the world in the time of my formative years. I know he's still at it. I've never been a radio person though. We traded music, created our own clubs, and INTRODUCED leftfield music to each other. Something I haven't stopped doing.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 23:00
Saperlipopette! wrote:
... Anyway Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio didn't exist in my part of the world in the time of my formative years. I know he's still at it. I've never been a radio person though. We traded music, created our own clubs, and INTRODUCED leftfield music to each other. Something I haven't stopped doing.
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Hi,
Not exactly on topic ... but Guy's show has never been for a "radio person" at all. And this was one of the parts that he took a lot of flack for. The show is, was, a lot more of a conceptual mix, way back when about all European music ONLY, and now, it is by far the best mix of music with the listing of artists encompassing over 70 years ... and in many ways the ONLY really "progressive" show out there that is not tied to a silly definition and sound.
So it all depends on what one feels is "radio-friendly", because in many ways that means ... a format, and a sound that is recognizable to everyone's ears. I am not sure that the folks responding are aware of the massive difference in that concept, but the OP is not, I don't think, interested in "different" ... it's looking for stuff that he will play when he gets in front of a microphone, I guess!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 23:21
Guy Guden didn't invent Pirate Radio as far as I know. Europe and The UK had Radio Luxemborg and Radio Caroline. The latter was very good with prog and supported it past the whole punk thing. I heard them play extended tracks incluidng all of Tubular Bells on one occasion. Radio Luxemborg was a fun listen when I was 12 or 13. It was a good station for youngsters and way better than BBC Radio which often was crappola and populated by lets say dodgy characters (excepting our beloved Alan ''Fluff'' Freeman who got hs own prog show on a Saturday afternoon, but even that was shunted away. Still fond memories though of him getting excited about UK's debut release). Radio Luxemborg also put ELP at NO1 when Fanfare For The Common Man was out there.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 16 2023 at 23:43
moshkito wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
... Anyway Guy Guden and his Space Pirate Radio didn't exist in my part of the world in the time of my formative years. I know he's still at it. I've never been a radio person though. We traded music, created our own clubs, and INTRODUCED leftfield music to each other. Something I haven't stopped doing.
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Not exactly on topic ... but Guy's show has never been for a "radio person" at all. And this was one of the parts that he took a lot of flack for. The show is, was, a lot more of a conceptual mix | The only time I do listen to radio is while driving to our cabin. Then we always listen some show with a conceptual mix in one way or another. "Radio shows that's not for radio persons" aren't hard to find. Not where I live. Not anymore.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 17 2023 at 09:21
richardh wrote:
Guy Guden didn't invent Pirate Radio as far as I know. Europe and The UK had Radio Luxemborg and Radio Caroline. The latter was very good with prog and supported it past the whole punk thing.... |
Hi,
Guy always credited these Pirate stations and it was loud and clear on his original promos and id's. "they played the music you couldn't hear". I would think that the word "Space" was added to it as a way to bring about a new form and feeling. But in many ways, nowadays, when compared to the amount of "progressive" stuff in shows out there, Guy's show is still the ultimate "Pirate Radio", when most of the other shows are too recognizable, sound similar and often the same, as a lot of stuff out there.
In this sense, Guy's show is not predictable at all!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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