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    Posted: May 30 2014 at 14:35
This isn't necessarily bad, just hilarious.


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This is an old thread and  I realise I've said this all before but deue to scenility I can't remember so I will also say I love Meg too! 
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The Shaggs are mighty popular round these parts !
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I had never heard The Shaggs

So with curiosity went to Youtube and found this

http://youtu.be/hxPsXPCR5MU

God, what a a painful experience.

They were all a bunch of inept performers (I refuse to call them musicians).

Yes  Helen was a terrible drummer, the worst I ever heard, but yet she was better than her sisters.

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Have a sense of humor about it. Frank Zappa loved them. For me there so bad there good.
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Dunno if I'd call Lars a bad drummer. He was surrounded by better musicians, but he definitely wasn't bad.
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I had never heard The Shaggs

So with curiosity went to Youtube and found this

http://youtu.be/hxPsXPCR5MU

God, what a a painful experience.

They were all a bunch of inept performers (I refuse to call them musicians).

Yes  Helen was a terrible drummer, the worst I ever heard, but yet she was better than her sisters.

Ivan






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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

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dat cool hip hop groov...


Doze improvised fills do...
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I couldn't pick a 'bad drummer' as I don't play drums myself. I guess then, a matter of taste comes into play.
I would say that Mick Pointer has improved little from Marillion to Arena, but that doesn't mean he's a bad drummer. Klaus Schulze was atrocious on Tangerine Dream's 'Electronic Meditation' album, but superb on Ash Ra Tempel's debut. Also his drumming on Picture Music is spot-on. Nick Mason's style is rather simplistic, though his work fits Floyd PERFECTLY. It all depends on what the style of music/composition demands.
Oh, I thought Lars Ulrich was a mind-blowing drummer when I first got into Metallica in the late-80's, he is very good (albeit, he can be sloppy, but what he tries to play is pretty demanding)......

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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

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There are lots of drummers whose playing I don't care for but very few I believe are plain vanilla incompetent (bound to get flamed for most if not all of theseConfused):

Roger Taylor - stiffer than a 90 year old oven baked kitten
Chris Frantz - Robobop with all the dynamic nuances of a concrete block
Maureen Tucker - the NME luvvies told us she practiced an extreme form of African inspired rubato (Nah)
Mick Avory - he stopped even trying in the 80's for the Kinks and appeared to run on batteries thereafter
Keith Moon - very sloppy, latterly the Who kept time for him and anyone who considers the hihat as superfluous doesn't have their problems to seek

Dishonorable mentions: I'm surprised that folks object to the likes of Charlie Watts (a very accomplished jazz drummer who was slumming it in rock but has consummate feel) and Ringo never sullied a Beatles recording in his life (like a rotating Carl Palmer gong fest in the middle of Get Back would have made the song better?)
Laugh Out Loud Tolhurst's patterns were dictated principally by his lack of formal ability but as devoid of feeling as they might appear, his dead pan minimalism fitted the Cure's sound world at the time e.g. All Cats Are Grey, the Drowning Man, A Forest, One Hundred Years, the Figurehead etc would all sound very odd indeed over typical heavy rock beats.




Always had a soft spot for Taylor. Some of his drumming on the Flash Gordon s/t is actually very good. He is a hard rock drummer and I have to say that Queen are NOT a prog band (although I like them) so his drumming suits the music perfectly

Keith Moon - Baba O'Riley , nuff said in my book

Of course Ringo was never a bad drummer by any stretch.

Probably the dullest drummer I've heard is Jerome Froese but he is not actually 'bad'.

Outside of prog Jet Black could be a contender though.Wink
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I'm a worse drummer than any of these people
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Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

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dat cool hip hop groov...
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The ones for the bands I don't like. Usually if I like a band, I like something about how the drummer fits into the band.


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Other, this guy:
"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."

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Yes drummer Alan White.  Boring, characteristic-less, vanilla playing.
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Voted Other

There are lots of drummers whose playing I don't care for but very few I believe are plain vanilla incompetent (bound to get flamed for most if not all of theseConfused):

Roger Taylor - stiffer than a 90 year old oven baked kitten
Chris Frantz - Robobop with all the dynamic nuances of a concrete block
Maureen Tucker - the NME luvvies told us she practiced an extreme form of African inspired rubato (Nah)
Mick Avory - he stopped even trying in the 80's for the Kinks and appeared to run on batteries thereafter
Keith Moon - very sloppy, latterly the Who kept time for him and anyone who considers the hihat as superfluous doesn't have their problems to seek

Dishonorable mentions: I'm surprised that folks object to the likes of Charlie Watts (a very accomplished jazz drummer who was slumming it in rock but has consummate feel) and Ringo never sullied a Beatles recording in his life (like a rotating Carl Palmer gong fest in the middle of Get Back would have made the song better?)
Laugh Out Loud Tolhurst's patterns were dictated principally by his lack of formal ability but as devoid of feeling as they might appear, his dead pan minimalism fitted the Cure's sound world at the time e.g. All Cats Are Grey, the Drowning Man, A Forest, One Hundred Years, the Figurehead etc would all sound very odd indeed over typical heavy rock beats.





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Points: 9 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2014 at 15:04
You can add Ringo Starr to this list with Pete Best and also Mick Pointer (Marillion, Arena), John Mayhew, John Silver, Chris Stewart (if we can call them drummers), Clive Bunker etc...
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

After finally listening to The Shaggs, I'm convinced that Helen Wiggin was the Thomas Haake of her day. Just listen real close. She was flippin genius.

LOL Oh yeah, I can so see that. Just listen to her execute those polyrhythms!
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