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Topic: Steven Wilson Vs. Roine Stolt
Posted: June 28 2017 at 20:22

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Posted: June 28 2017 at 12:13

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 15:27

Guldbamsen wrote:

That may very well be it!
Maybe we need more vs threads - proggers that talk sh*t about each other - maybe a little mud wrestling with all the Steves of prog.

Oooo....."Who is the best Steve?" "Which Steve is the proggiest?" LOL

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 15:14

That may very well be it!
Maybe we need more vs threads - proggers that talk sh*t about each other - maybe a little mud wrestling with all the Steves of prog.

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 15:11

^ It's possible this is the only decent thread on PA....or one that does not captcha-pork you!

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 15:03

What's also funny is how this thread keeps resurfacing when this little back-n-forth happened over ten years ago and that both of these gentlemen since then have moved on.
Still like Samuel I also find it a little peculiar to see Steven knock the retro approach when he himself went down that road not that long after. He may have gone for the cool Crimsonian touch whilst Stolt always sticks to his butter symph...but he isn't fooling anyone.

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 14:02

Funny how Wilson bashes retro Prog and did exactly that a few years after that interview.

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 13:40

both are complete utter amazingly awesome so this Vs is crap imho

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 12:32

I think these are easily two different guitarists as well as focus of music. Agreed that Stolt plays and has written music that is very upbeat, happy mood, loving music.

Wilson on the other hand is about as dark/melancholy as you can get with both solo and PT material. Stolt is a much better guitarist easily, but that has nothing against Wilson as he himself admits he is not that good, of course I don't know what he thinks the bar is for guitar players. Wilson plays drums, bass, keys/synth/mellotron as well as electric and acoustic guitar, not too shabby....Plus he is a brilliant music editor/mixer/engineer.

Both have their merits and create excellent music.

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 05:00

The jury is out on this one - until I hear the next output from Stolt and Wilson.....I have heard that Wilson's new CD will be essentially pop! - That aint progression for me - that's selling out.......

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Posted: June 27 2017 at 04:33

Mirror Image wrote:

Now, those that read this, what do you think about it? Who's right? Who's wrong?

Steve Wilson is a "tool," in the phallic sense of the word. Roine Stolt does not only have his finger on the pulse of Prog in the 21st century; he is also the heir (or, rather, contemporary) of all the best prog guitarists that have ever graced the genre. Stolt is in an elite company of very few who "communicate" the vibe that is "prog" today...

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Posted: May 14 2017 at 04:39

Who cares about the word "Progressive?" Music can be judged on its own merits.

Roine makes gorgeous, uplifting music that swirls and pulses with melody after melody and makes me smile. I enjoy Porcupine Tree, but it's dark and often cold and frankly doesn't hold a candle to the best Flower Kings music.

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Posted: July 28 2016 at 21:11

I have German TV interview with SW where he takes about 10 minutes (near as) to agree that P Tree area progressive rock act.

As far as I can tell Flower Kings and Transatlantic play symphonic prog rock. Not really enjoyed athing from SW (except Grace For Drowning) since Nil Recurring. His version of fusion seems not quite in the Al Di Meola standard of (WWWOOOOWWWW) for me. P Tree owe so much to Richard Barbieri.

To be progressive one has to subvert a form (so he is probably right about his choices). Shame I'm not keen on much Tool though I've yet to hear Lateralus. The Mars Volta, probably not my thing but not really heard much - a bit enough for me to say interesting. Radiohead? If he thinks so. Alt rock band (derivative of REM)...

I get much more out of hearing John Coltrane really. e.g. Psalm from A Love Supreme. The menacing tympani versus his sax has more interesting things than anything... oh, you mean prog pop music? Why does "now" have to be important? An older recording could be referenced and heard in a new context...

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Posted: July 20 2016 at 02:21

Roine has soul.
Wilson is calculated.
I love the work of both equally, though I'd sooner be friends with Roine........

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Posted: July 19 2016 at 22:43

Ol' Stevie-boy lost my interest years ago.

I believe that he is trying way too hard to be edgy at the moment. SW's constructed personality manifests in his most recent music, and it sounds calculated and empty. Although editing the freely flowing vibes of the soul is essential in many forms of refined music, I feel as if the spirit of the source has been killed in his process. Disingenuous music is off-putting to me, and is simply a waste of time.

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Posted: July 19 2016 at 13:05

I just got into Stolt and came across this thread in the googles. I think it's worth bringing up how he may have been speaking too soon considering his involvement with Opeth's Heritage and obviously his newest solo work. These have been HIGHLY classically influenced and he's been open about that. Plus he's been churning out classic prog remasters like crazy.

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Posted: January 11 2013 at 18:33

Sumdeus wrote:

letting Akerfeldt play guitar on your music only makes you more pretentious :P

However, I remember someone quoting Wilson saying that Akerfeldt would be the one playing on Storm Corrosion because he was by far the better player.

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Posted: January 11 2013 at 14:59

Kati wrote:

Wilson is not a good guitarist, he is good but not a guitar God.

It's only my opinion but Stolt has the fell of Gilmour and Beck etc. he also uses the wah pedal better than anyone, he can play technically but keeps the feel, he can sound like a rock guitarist and suddenly switch to Hacket, blues too. Stolt is born natural to me. More accomplished I dare to say than Gilmour.

He doesn't do lead breaks; he plays tunes. He is a prog guitarist like Hacket. Not a rock guitarist, he plays within tunes like Hacket and others in prog, he doesn't do rythm and leads.

@Kati-

is that you in your avatar pic? just curious.

anyway, i love how the new guy comes in and starts harping about the definition of 'progressive'....classic.

stolt and wilson are both different artists. who cares? i'd say that wilson is a lot more user friendly at first where as stilt's music is just jam packed with changes and stuff which takes a while to get into. i like them both.

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Posted: January 11 2013 at 14:56

letting Akerfeldt play guitar on your music only makes you more pretentious :P

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Posted: January 11 2013 at 13:39

Sumdeus wrote:

not like i can add anything that hasn't already been made clear in this thread but i feel the need to say that Steven WIlson is a pretentious c**t and his music has always bored me incredibly.sorry, i know this isn't much of a good contribution to discussion but i made the mistake of reading the OP.

I'm not really sure about this. At least as far as his playing ability I think he is rather modest, he's ofter referred to other guitarists as better than him and so on, and that's actually the reason Akerfeldt played the guitar on Storm Corrosion. As far as his writing abilities, I'm not so sure he is so modest.