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yam yam
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yam yam
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It got to the point where there just wasn't the time available for any research to be done into these artist's biographies, so in the end, in an effort to clear the backlog, many were added with just a simple one line statement for a biography. It was nobody's fault, just an unfortunate consequence of the way the new suggestions forum was being abused by several 'serial suggesters' that we had at the time. When the new rules regarding the need for there to be an original biography and an artist photo provided before a suggestion could be followed up were introduced back in March 2020, these serial suggesters all disappeared, so we no longer have the problem. The Prog Metal team these days is much smaller and more efficient at completing its evaluations than it once was in any case. We'll gradually get this list whittled down over the next few months, I'll make sure of that. Edit: Due to difficulties in getting minor typos and other little errors that weren't spotted until after the biographies had been added to the artists' pages fixed, I won't be writing any more of these biographies until such time as the PA admins trust me enough to allow me to access artist pages and edit any minor errors in the biographies myself. Since that isn't likely to happen any time soon, it appears that the list of prog metal artists with less than 200 character biographies will be frozen at 45 for a while.
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Cristi
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No one from those days is in the current prog-metal team. We've lost three members since I've been in the team. I didn't know there were so many bands with one sentence biographies. I re-wrote a couple a few months ago, two bands I discovered in this state on my own.
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NotAProghead
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^ Like one of the famous Russian humourists said, someone's heroism is the irresponsibility of the others.
There were days, at least as it seemed to me, when Prog Metal Team was trying to add more and more acts on PA with minimal attention to the quality of their additions. Now we see the results in the form of 3-line bios here and there. Don't want to throw stones at PMT, it's just my (probably wrong) observation. After all, there is nothing that can't be fixed.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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yam yam
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^ Yes, I asked Julien in the E&O thread if he could aim his weapon at our database and find out how many artists we have on the site with less than three lines in their biography. You can view the original results of his investigation from three and a half years ago here, but we never transferred the list over to this section of the forum at the time.
The issue of poor, single line biographies was raised again quite recently in the Prog Metal Team thread, so I thought I'd sort the remaining artists (which was all but about three of them lol!) from Julien's original list into the separate sub genres to make it easy for the team members to find them if they were ever feeling bored and wanted something to do. It was done more in hope than expectation though. Although I'm going to try to bring the Prog Metal list down to something a bit more acceptable over the coming winter, I expect most of these lists will remain largely unaltered until the next ice age arrives!
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NotAProghead
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^ When I looked at these lists I thought "Oh, David becomes a script-master!" Now it's clear that automation comes from Julien, as usual.
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yam yam
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^ It's really Julien who we have to thank for these lists. He ran one of his scripts on the database back in February 2021 and sniffed out all the worst biographies (less than 200 characters, or about three lines of text). All I've done now is to separate the results out into their respective subs.
I've taken care of half a dozen or so of the original ones, and will continue to chip away at the Prog Metal ones, since that sub is the worst offender by far. I'm posting the new biographies directly in the Prog Metal team thread, and Cristi updates them almost straight away. Where we will find the writers to take care of the rest of these though, I have absolutely no idea!
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NotAProghead
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^^^^ Great job, David!
I only wonder where can we find writers.
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yam yam
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The rest of the list of artists with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: :
Symphonic Prog: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1883 | Cousins and Conrad https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10658 | Hot Flash Psychedelic/Space Rock: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11527 | Space Druids https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8093 | Shatter Projeckt / Shatter Project Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6212 | Kala https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4397 | GHQ RIO/Avant-Prog: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9622 | Tanz Canterbury Scene: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10380 | Ocarinah Zeuhl: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10810 | Zig Zag Proto-Prog https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10467 | Ford Theatre
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Complete list of Progressive Electronic bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6015 | Carlos Guirao https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2773 | Hydravion https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3528 | Edward M. Zajda https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2619 | Fripp & Eno https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8951 | Christian Richet https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10663 | Sergei Djokanov
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yam yam
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Complete list of Eclectic Prog bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8217 | Sylvia Bliss https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8182 | Plamp https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8224 | Mr. Euphoria https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9147 | The Perotic Theatre https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9146 | Kraken in the Maelstrom https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8404 | Fetus Maximus https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8767 | Quaker https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9474 | Pingvinorkestern
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yam yam
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Complete list of Krautrock bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3417 | Zippo Zetterlink https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5437 | Thomas Dinger https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7600 | Pyranha https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3506 | Shannondoa https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4677 | AG A.M. https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9095 | Silent Carnival https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7721 | Merlin; Swara; Ilor & Friends https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7675 | Munju https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2564 | Cozmic Corridors https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4251 | Blumen Des Exotischen Eises
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Complete list of JR/F bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9915 | Anwkozik https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9308 | Francis Cang https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4619 | Le Grand Nebuleux https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9616 | Animus Trio https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1754 | Den Za Den https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8500 | Jacques La Greca https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9250 | Rains https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8704 | Energy Of Sound https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9693 | Bosque https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10147 | Mobius Strip https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9477 | G.A.O.S. https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10038 | Rantama Trio https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9710 | Suhy Silvergold & Alvarado
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Complete list of Post Rock/Math Rock bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9213 | Kraene https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9210 | Nova Scotia https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9637 | Yawn Hic https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9203 | Hearts Of Atlantis https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9212 | Caves Of Steel https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9586 | Hungria https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9563 | Acantilados https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9632 | Like Nomads https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9201 | Loraine https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9642 | Echoes And Signals https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9303 | The Beauty The World Makes Us Hope For https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9640 | Brontide
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yam yam
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Complete list of Crossover Prog bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9075 | Psicolorama https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6490 | Your Electric Grandmother https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6234 | Clover Seeds https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7165 | Dzejbi https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7653 | i.AB https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6881 | Daphne https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6277 | DDNZ https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9083 | Trevor Harmonic https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9046 | Taelus https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9041 | Martin Worster |
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yam yam
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Those biographies are now both done. For the record, and in the hope that somebody else might chip in and help out with a few, here is the complete list of Progressive Metal bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about 3 lines of text) as it was on 7th February 2021. I'm pretty sure that the biographies of bands added to the site since then will be adequate at the very least, so this list should still be complete. I looked at each of these bands again before compiling the list to make sure that the biographies were still in need of attention. https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11102 | Trappist System Trio https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11085 | Pyramid https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11191 | Chris Prophet https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11093 | Etrange https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11190 | Reality Check https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11021 | Shattered Glass https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11103 | Toska https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11088 | Oceanica https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11024 | Noisedriver https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11091 | Haunter https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11188 | Seven Nines and Tens https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11194 | Nocturnus AD https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11092 | Halcyon Reign https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11192 | Omnibeing https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10794 | Dimension Eleven https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11097 | Aspic https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11101 | Vanessa Van Basten https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11181 | Aeons https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10797 | Kadinja https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11109 | Sleeping In Traffic https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11096 | Avandra https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10770 | Influence X https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10777 | Valermada https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10796 | Left As Rain https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6304 | Gladiator https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11178 | Fear Of Missing Out https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11025 | Marrow https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10843 | Anvil Therapy https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6179 | Sigma 5 https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5880 | Sea of Nectar https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11108 | Slice The Cake https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11105 | Those Darned Gnomes https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6476 | Shadyon https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10848 | Wheel https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11087 | Parallel Dimension https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11177 | Feather Mountain https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10766 | Convulsing https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6735 | Admiral Browning https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11187 | The Night Watch https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6471 | Entropia https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6295 | Centaurus https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10846 | Project Infinity https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9889 | Infamia https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6468 | Black Sea https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10656 | Eigengrau I'll post similar lists here for the other PA sub genres over the next day or two. Edit: List updated 02/11/24 (Varaha done).
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Sean Trane
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for the French accent on vowels, sometimes it works, sometimes if screws up
Edited by Sean Trane - August 06 2024 at 02:46 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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NotAProghead
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^ Thanks, done. "To ease our pain", please in future: - give links to the artists' pages, - check pages after updating them (and correct things like "the enigmatic and complex "P�le" (1975)"); - post correct names (it was not obvious that Bue Morttion is actually BLUE MOTION).
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Sean Trane
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Just updated Circus (Swiss) and Philippe Besombes' respected biographies and discographies
Could be useful to set up cross-reference link to Bue Morttion (for Circus) aznd Hydravion (for Besombes) in the respective bios. Cheers |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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^ Thanks, done.
Also added cross-references on Mark MURDOCK and CYMBALIC ENCOUNTERS pages.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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