Biographies Needing Attention
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Topic: Biographies Needing Attention
Posted By: Snow Dog
Subject: Biographies Needing Attention
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 06:03
I am starting this thread to highlight problem or under par biographies. I don't think we have a thread like this but if we do please feel free to lock this.
Chris Squire.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=832" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=832
Now I can of course correct the mistakes in this biography but I think a rewrite is in order. It is nothing more than an album review in my opinion and not a biography at all.
Thoughts?
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 06:11
I started this http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72015" rel="nofollow - thread once upon a time.
Happy to say the new Dream Theater biography is far superior to the old one (thanks Andy!).
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 06:13
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 07:37
A review of the bios is a good idea, and the one quoted is a good one as well. Recent posts have highlighted the archival nature of this site, rather than it being a current events site. Fair enough, but an Archival site has to be up to date and relevant, otherwise it is not an archive.
Tell you what. Why don't we eliminate the sub-genres, and free up time for collabs to go through and update the bios and album data?
(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10....................
Ouch, that hurt
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 07:41
Trouble is that even this thread highlighting problem Bios is that someone has to do the work to change it. So if we agreed that Chris Squire needed a redo that would just be the first stage. Who would do it? Me because i noticed it?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 07:52
Snow Dog wrote:
Trouble is that even this thread highlighting problem Bios is that someone has to do the work to change it. So if we agreed that Chris Squire needed a redo that would just be the first stage. Who would do it? Me because i noticed it? |
It's a similar problem to that of changing over sub-genres to albums, rather than artists. The site is now so huge that, to be honest, it would be a full time job for a year in a corporation, let alone a bunch of volunteers.
I do, though, think that we can have a rethink of the way we do things. If we just had two sub-genres, prog & prog related, then that would free up the collabs on all the respective teams to engage themselves into becoming a true archival service, i.e. ensuring that bios were kept up to date (you could allocate this in alphabetical splits), and album data was accurate, & etc.
I know that some people don't like me for saying it, but I would submit that the vast majority of visitors here don't give a toss as to whether Steve Hackett is in Symphonic or Eclectic. What they want is accurate, up to date, and informative information in the shape of a bio, discography, and album reviews, in order to get information, or maybe see if they fancy buying an album they previously had not heard of.
Shall I paste that nuclear bomb again?
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 07:54
I like you just fine Steve, but I do disagree with tossing out subgenres. Those categorizations were what brought me to this site in the first place (above any other site). It aided me in finding music similar to what I already liked at a glance.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 03 2012 at 12:04
What we do is try to watch for sub-par bios on RPI artist pages and update them when we have time. It's rainy day work. If someone brings one to our attention we do it faster of course.
I also will update bios, broken links, and poor photos on bands outside of RPI when I find them. Just did one the other day.
Any of us can be on the lookout for insufficient content and spruce it up when necessary. We could dedicate people to the mission, assuming we had the extra hands, or we can all commit to doing it when we see it.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 04 2012 at 04:50
For now I will just correct grammar. I obviously won't change the bio without permission. Maybe I should contact the writer. But only if the consensus agrees.
Perhaps he will see this thread.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 14:45
No offense intended, but the http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=90" rel="nofollow - Echolyn biography is lacking.
Would anyone mind if I wrote a fresh one sometime over the weekend?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:09
Epignosis wrote:
No offense intended, but the http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=90" rel="nofollow - Echolyn biography is lacking.
Would anyone mind if I wrote a fresh one sometime over the weekend?
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Absolutely I wouldn't mind, It is very lacking.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:15
Go for it. That one is awful.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 08:03
Snow Dog wrote:
I am starting this thread to highlight problem or under par biographies. I don't think we have a thread like this but if we do please feel free to lock this.
Chris Squire.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=832" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=832
Now I can of course correct the mistakes in this biography but I think a rewrite is in order. It is nothing more than an album review in my opinion and not a biography at all.
Thoughts?
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With Mickty and raff but mainly with HT and ClemofNazareth we had to write 200 reviews in a few months, because some really sucked,.. others were almost propaganda and some couldn't be called Bios because they said (literally)
"Classic 70's band influenced by YES, GENESIS, KING CRIMSON, PINK FLOYD and JETHRO TULL, a great addition to Prog Archives"
Hey, I don't know why everybody mentioned PINK FLOYD,. KING CRIMSON and JETHRO TULL on a Symphonic bio.
But we once corrected a bio made by Erik (Who in those days was authorized to create a link for his store) and it caused a scandal by Erik , who said we were boycotting him, so we didn't touched the one for Chris, I will personally make a new one, now that Erik is not here.
Please Robert, make a new Echolyn bio, I'll be thankful, last week I made a one for SQUACKETT and one for a Kraut band which I was familiar with, so I know how genre teams need this help.
Thanks
Iván
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 08:23
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I am starting this thread to highlight problem or under par biographies. I don't think we have a thread like this but if we do please feel free to lock this.
Chris Squire.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=832" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=832
Now I can of course correct the mistakes in this biography but I think a rewrite is in order. It is nothing more than an album review in my opinion and not a biography at all.
Thoughts?
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I once tried to correct a bio made by Eroik (Who in those days was authorized to create a link for his store) and it caused a scandal by Erik , who said we were boycotting him, so we didn't touched the one for Chris, I wuill personally make a new one, now tghat Erik is not here.
Please Robert, make a new Echolyn bio, I'll be thankful, last week I made a one for SQUACKETT and one for a Kraut band which I was familiar with, so I know how genre teams need this help.
Thanks
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Thanks for your response Ivan. Yes I noticed it was by Erik and was wondering how best to proceed. As he is not around so much now I mean. I understand it can be a sensitive issue but this biography is not up to scratch. Thank you for stepping up to the plate.
Ian
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 09:09
As any decent obsessive compulsive, had to write a Chris Squire Bio that replaced the review Erik wrote.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 09:11
Excellent work Ivan. A worthy biography.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 14 2012 at 09:20
I have put up a new photo too.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 07 2012 at 02:45
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=34" rel="nofollow - Ayreon biography needs serious revamping - one of the most popular bands on this site
Any takers?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 07 2012 at 02:51
^I agree. That one is quite awful.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 07 2012 at 03:37
Good thread Ian, since over the years I saw hundreds of bios that were lacking or just awful. I can help where I can.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 05:28
Shouldn't we update the Jon Lord and Deep Purple bios, in the light of Jon's death??
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 21 2012 at 06:01
^Good idea, shouldn't take much amendment. I'll try to do it later.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 10 2012 at 16:52
new http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=34" rel="nofollow - AYREON bio, please shout for any obvious mistakes
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 05:31
This wonderfull Kraut/Stoner outfit from Munich, Germany.
Have resently been added to PA, but without the biography.
How do I help to get the bacis info. in there ?
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7629" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7629
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 05:34
^What do you mean? Research on the internet and find out about them. If they have a website that may help.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 06:10
I got the info. just dont know how to put it in there
Another thing : Periscope
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39556" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39556
Is a 1999 album (on Toaster Records), the 2004 is a reissue (on Elektrohasch)
As it shows here : http://www.colourhaze.de/index.php/releases?page=3" rel="nofollow - http://www.colourhaze.de/index.php/releases?page=3
Looks like the only thing changed is the cover.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 06:46
Just post the Bio here and I can add it. I will credit you at the end of it.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 06:47
tamijo wrote:
I got the info. just dont know how to put it in there
Another thing : Periscope
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39556" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39556
Is a 1999 album (on Toaster Records), the 2004 is a reissue (on Elektrohasch)
As it shows here : http://www.colourhaze.de/index.php/releases?page=3" rel="nofollow - http://www.colourhaze.de/index.php/releases?page=3
Looks like the only thing changed is the cover.
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fixed
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 06:54
Snow Dog wrote:
tamijo wrote:
I got the info. just dont know how to put it in there
Another thing : Periscope
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39556" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39556
Is a 1999 album (on Toaster Records), the 2004 is a reissue (on Elektrohasch)
As it shows here : http://www.colourhaze.de/index.php/releases?page=3" rel="nofollow - http://www.colourhaze.de/index.php/releases?page=3
Looks like the only thing changed is the cover.
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fixed |
By the way - some versions have a bonus track :
http://www.allthatisheavy.com/info.asp?item_num=ATH-3250" rel="nofollow - http://www.allthatisheavy.com/info.asp?item_num=ATH-3250
I dont know if you want to add that
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 08:11
COLOUR HAZE, is a Krautrock band formed in Germany 1994, by Stefan Koglek (vocal, guitar), Tim Höfer (drums), Christian Wiesner (bass). In 1995 the release their debut “Chopping Machine” as a tree-piece, the album is in a style caught between a classic Heavy Rock (Black Sabbath), and the Grunge popular at the time (Pearl Jam). Between 1995 and 1999 the band went through a series on member changes, including singer Felix Neuenhoff replace Koglek on the vocal parts. From the recording of “Periscope” (1999), they were again reduces to a tree-piece Stefan Koglek (vocal, guitar), Manfred Merwald (drums), Philipp Rasthofer (bass). “Periscope” marks the start of the new COLOUR HAZE, with a solid and Heavy, Psychedelic Stoner Rock, clearly inspired by Jimi Hendrix but definitely also sending thoughts in the direction of the early Krautrock. Over the years the band have become a bit less heavy, exploring even more the slow buildup on very long tracks, with a warmer and softer sound, and a crafty groove.
Any album they have done from “Periscope” and onwards are worth a listen, but “Temple” 2006 mark a refinement both in their sound and the melodies they create. May be seen, as the start of the third chapter.
A highly recommended German band, still evolving modern Stoner Rock
NB: If you find any language errors please just edit, my written english is not allways perfect.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 10 2012 at 08:32
^Added.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 12 2012 at 07:14
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6470" rel="nofollow - Dreamlore biography updated finding new information from the net
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:21
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3497" rel="nofollow - What the Blood Revealed biography, photo and discography updated
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:21
Sieges Even biography updated
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 18:41
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5861" rel="nofollow - Ehnahre biography, discography and link updated
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 05:09
Good work, good work!
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 05:16
^ cheers Ian, but we need more, we need more...
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 17:30
Snow Dog wrote:
Trouble is that even this thread highlighting problem Bios is that someone has to do the work to change it. So if we agreed that Chris Squire needed a redo that would just be the first stage. Who would do it? Me because i noticed it? |
I know this is old, but in the end ... you know folks well enough around here and what they like ... you can always ask someone, and the most they can do is reply with a no. I have offered, and was turned down, because what I wanted to do with the biography of Carmen, was intertwine all three of the albums that also tell the story of the band ... and how it came up and went down. Much of it was also written on the liner notes in their website where the band explained a lot of things. That was turned down and I have not done anymore since. I still believe, as I did then, that if we are going to be "progressive", we have to make room for creativity, and what I had done was different and positive ... but was set down. I won't disagree with the set down! You're only making this writer do even more! But you can ask! I have no qualms helping something I believe in, but some folks think I have personal issues with, and I don't ... you all work hard and put in the time ... what more can anyone ask?
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 07 2013 at 14:43
I just wrote a review for Honeyelk and noticed that they have no Bio. I can write one if that's ok with the Zehul team.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 07 2013 at 15:14
sagichim wrote:
I just wrote a review for Honeyelk and noticed that they have no Bio. I can write one if that's ok with the Zehul team.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 07 2013 at 15:26
HolyMoly wrote:
sagichim wrote:
I just wrote a review for Honeyelk and noticed that they have no Bio. I can write one if that's ok with the Zehul team.
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That will be fine Shteve!. I'll contact one of the SC when I'm done.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 04:07
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2047" rel="nofollow - Credo biography and pic updated
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 07 2013 at 19:36
The guy from Psychedelic Ensemble was wanting his bio changed. I could do it if that's okay since he sent me via private message what he wants said. Let me know. Thanks ! John
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 16:41
Yes, that should not be a problem, you can post straight in the Neo team for this and they will take care of the amendments, of course after carefully scrutinizing it
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 17:10
aapatsos wrote:
Yes, that should not be a problem, you can post straight in the Neo team for this and they will take care of the amendments, of course after carefully scrutinizing it
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Thankyou !
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 15 2014 at 14:11
Great work by Jared on updating http://Suspyre" rel="nofollow - Suspyre 's bio - have a look
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 15 2014 at 14:22
^^ thank you my friend... very kind!
Ice Age
Bio expanded and exploded!
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 16 2014 at 16:24
^ brilliant
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 18 2014 at 13:07
Biography Update Hit List:
1) Suspyre: Updated 15/01
2) Ice Age: Updated 16/01
3) Green Carnation: Updated 18/01
4) Beyond Twlight: Work in Progress
5) Evergrey: Next in Line
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 18 2014 at 13:19
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 19 2014 at 16:09
Biography Update Hit List:
1) Suspyre: Updated 15/01
2) Ice Age: Updated 16/01
3) Green Carnation: Updated 18/01
4) Beyond Twilight: Updated 19/01
5) Lemur Voice: Updated 20/01
6) Ark (Norway): Updated 21/01
7) Evergrey: Updated 24/01
8) Pathosray: Updated 25/01
9) Adagio: Updated 02/02
10) Wolverine: Updated 03/02
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 19 2014 at 17:58
I really enjoyed that BT bio
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 02 2014 at 16:56
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4446" rel="nofollow - DeeExpus update, Bob had done a great job at the first place
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: February 14 2014 at 04:04
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4699" rel="nofollow - Djamra updated.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 08:37
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2197" rel="nofollow - Syndone (RPI) could do with a bit of an update. Bio states that they were disbanded after their "second - and final -" album 'Inca' in 1993. They reformed in 2010, and there have actually now been three albums since 'Inca' (all are listed on the band's page), the latest having only very recently been released. Info can be found (in Italian) on the band's official website: http://syndone.it/syndone/index.php/it/history" rel="nofollow - http://syndone.it/syndone/index.php/it/history .
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 26 2014 at 08:21
I noticed that the pic in Peter Gabriel's page is from his Genesis period, not very fitting for his solo career page.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 26 2014 at 08:35
yam yam wrote:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2197" rel="nofollow - Syndone (RPI) could do with a bit of an update. Bio states that they were disbanded after their "second - and final -" album 'Inca' in 1993. They reformed in 2010, and there have actually now been three albums since 'Inca' (all are listed on the band's page), the latest having only very recently been released. Info can be found (in Italian) on the band's official website: http://syndone.it/syndone/index.php/it/history" rel="nofollow - http://syndone.it/syndone/index.php/it/history . |
hey Dave, I am sure the RPI team would appreciate a small extra write-up to complement existing bio
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 26 2014 at 08:36
Gerinski wrote:
I noticed that the pic in Peter Gabriel's page is from his Genesis period, not very fitting for his solo career page. | Gerard, you could post in
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36282" rel="nofollow - Album Covers and Artist Pictures
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 11 2014 at 18:05
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7682" rel="nofollow - The Far Meadow have a new vocalist (since mid-March 2014) - the gifted Cypriot singer-songwriter Marguerita Alexandrou. They are currently developing new material which will be introduced during the coming months prior to the next recording project. https://www.facebook.com/thefarmeadow" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/thefarmeadow . Edit: Current band pic seems to be completely random! I've dropped a link to this post in http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36282" rel="nofollow - Album Covers and Artist Pictures for it to be dealt with.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: August 11 2014 at 18:37
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 01 2014 at 07:29
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5403" rel="nofollow - Heart of Cygnus bio updated
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 21:11
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=405" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train could use a biography update.
Thanks team.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 01 2015 at 06:45
^ if you are offering one, we would gladly accept any additions you may have.
Happy New Year
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 30 2015 at 12:10
Dynamic Lights bio updated
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 15:15
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=435" rel="nofollow - Gordian Knot bio updated, thanks to AndyJ
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 16:49
Angra, Age of Nemesis, Archetype, Artension, Fates Warning, Eternity X, Jon Oliva's Pain
some of the hundreds of bands that could do with a new bio
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Posted By: AndyJ
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 14:22
Fates Warning biography - please feel free to edit and correct. I've edited this and fleshed this bio out a bit more, and corrected a few errors... Their 1999 album isn't bad, is it... Hadn't heard it before - might have to get it on CD ;-)
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FATES WARNING are a progressive metal band from Hartford, Connecticut, US, and are considered to be one of the pioneers of American progressive metal, along with fellow country-mates DREAM THEATER and QUEENSRYCHE. The early music of FATES WARNING drew heavy inspiration from the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal from bands such as IRON MAIDEN and JUDAS PRIEST and later they incorporated progressive elements as inspired from prog bands YES and RUSH.
FATES WARNING were formed in 1982 with an initial line-up of John ARCH (vocals), Jim MATHEOS and Victor ARDUINI (guitars), Steve ZIMMERMAN (drums) and Joe DIBIASE (bass guitar). This initial line-up of the band produced two studio albums, the 1984 debut "Night on Bröcken" and the 1985 follow-up "The Spectre Within". Both albums did relatively poorly in commercial terms with neither of them entering the billboard charts. It wasn't until their third album, 1986's "Awaken The Guardian" that FATES WARNING had some commercial success. This album was the last to feature their original vocalist, John ARCH.
The 1988 album "No Exit" witnessed a significant change for FATES WARNING, with a new vocalist, Ray ADLER, and a new musical style drawing on heavy inspiration from the American thrash metal scene which had erupted at the time. At this point in the bands history Jim MATHEOS, Steve ZIMMERMAN and Joe DIBIASE were the only original members to remain in the band. The 1988 album "No Exit" deserves special mention for the final track on the album, the 22-minute 'The Ivory Gate Of Dreams', which has become something of a legendary progressive metal song. After this album Steve ZIMMERMAN left the band.
The 1989 album "Perfect Symmetry" abandoned the thrash metal leanings of their previous album and was a far more mellow affair, and showed more progressive rock leanings and less metal influence. This album was followed up by the 1991 album "Parallels", which featured a young James LABRIE of DREAM THEATER fame making a guest appearance on the song 'Life In Still Water'.
Shortly after the release of their sixth album FATES WARNING split-up and remained inactive for almost three years. The band reformed in 1994 with the album "Inside Out", which continued in the same spirit as their previous 1991 album. In many ways FATES WARNING had mirrored the creative path of fellow American progressive band QUEENSRYCHE by abandoning their more metallic influences to create moodier and mellower progressive rock music.
In 1996 long time bass player and founder member Joe DIBIASE left the band, leaving only Jim MATHEOS as the last remaining member from the original 1982 line-up. In 1998 the band released "A Pleasant Shade Of Grey", which consisted of a single 50-minute progressive rock/metal song split into twelve movements. This album shows considerable progressive experimentation and is one of the better places to start with the band.
In the 2000's FATES WARNING released just one album, "FWX" from 2004. In 2010 the band reformed the classic line-up from the "Parallels" period for reunion shows to celebrate the reissue and remastered release of the 1991 "Parallels" album. The last FATES WARNING album to be released was in 2013 and titled "Darkness In A Different Light", which is their first studio album in almost a decade. As of 2015 FATES WARNING are active and playing occasional live shows, and plan on reuniting the original line-up of the band for a special one-off show in 2016 to celebrate the 30th anniversary of their 1986 album, "Awaken The Guardian".
As of 2015 the band are still active.
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 05 2015 at 07:45
I wrote this Bio for http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3688" rel="nofollow - Satanique Samba Trio . It is based mainly in their own website, I tried to made more a introduction to their style. Agreed?
-------------- Not satanic, not samba and not a trio, this avant-garde
group plays a fascinating de-construction of all rules Brazilian Popular Music
(MPB in portuguese) established along the years. Their instrumentation is as
varied as the instrumentation the styles they incorporate classicaly used.
In the first works, "Misantropicalia" and "Sangrou", the
group (leaded by the bass player and composer Munha) gave a few first hints of
what the project might be, attacking vivdly the samba-rock (and several others)
musical structures. In the following works, all intitled "Bad Trip
Simulator" (#2, #1 and #3, respectively), a kind of decomposition of
brazilian structures in three movements were made. In fact, they've called the "Putrefaction Trilogy" to establish with precision
the goal of the group - this time, altogether with the samba and MPB
re-compositions, the northeastern sounds also were re-thinked and played.
If Satan means originally in semitic languages "the enemy",
the one to stand against, and so forth, Satanique Samba Trio is the Satan of
brazilian popular music.
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Please feel free to correct any mistake in the writting.
------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: August 05 2015 at 08:41
^ I guess past tense of "lead" is "led" (not "leaded"). And I'd like to save a bit from old bio.
This sentense: "Their instrumentation is as varied as the instrumentation the styles they incorporate classically used." is not clear. In old bio it is: "Their instrumentation is as varied as the styles they incorporate into their music"
I propose to combine old and new (with some spelling corrections, I may be wrong, please check them too) this way:
-------------------------------------------- Not satanic, not samba and not a trio, this avant-garde group plays a fascinating de-construction of all rules Brazilian Popular Music (MPB in Portuguese) established along the years. Their instrumentation is as varied as the instrumentation the styles they incorporate classically used.
In the first works, "Misantropicalia" and "Sangrou", the group (lead by the bass player and composer Munha) gave a few first hints of what the project might be, attacking vividly the samba-rock (and several others) musical structures. In the following works, all entitled "Bad Trip Simulator" (#2, #1 and #3, respectively), a kind of decomposition of Brazilian structures in three movements were was made. In fact, they've called it the "Putrefaction Trilogy" to establish with precision the goal of the group - this time, altogether with the samba and MPB re-compositions, the northeastern sounds also were re-thinked and played.
If Satan means originally in semitic languages "the enemy", the one to stand against, and so forth, Satanique Samba Trio is the Satan of Brazilian popular music.
Original and eerie, this band will be of interest to fans of bands like Sleepytime Gorrila Museum, Doctor Nerve and of other avant-rock bands. ----------------------------------------------
If you agree I'll contact RIO Team to ask their opinion.
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 06 2015 at 09:31
Your revision is perfect, thanks.
I've tried to re-write that sentence to point out that they are using the same instruments as the musical genres they are destroying. Seeing now... the old sentence also say that, so you can remain with the original, I guess.
Yeah, go ahead.
------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: August 06 2015 at 15:03
^ Their bio has been updated. Thanks, Gustavo.
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 06 2015 at 15:08
Just check the sentence unfinished. We agree with the original: "Their instrumentation is as varied as the styles they incorporate into their music".
In the page the sentence is vague.
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: August 06 2015 at 15:12
Thanks, I didn't catch that. Changed back to the original sentence.
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Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: October 04 2016 at 12:47
Can someone edit http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9705" rel="nofollow - this page 's bio please (due to a new album's release)?
Pascal van den DOOL is a solo crossover prog artist (born 29th february, 2000 in Papendrecht, The Netherlands).
Start
Playing piano and composing started at an early age and he continued with this a lot in his life. In 2014, he began composing orchestral pieces and piano compilations and publishing them on Youtube. These orchestral pieces were largely inspired by trailer music which has always been an influence.
First albums
After a little while he composed his first orchestral album, called 'Nature'. In less than a year a new album came out: 'The Transition'. It had a more realistic orchestral sound and functioned as a bridge between orchestral music and band-oriented music. These albums were never officially released.
Prog period
Pascal discovered prog, which would be a big love from that point. Inspired mainly by Pink Floyd, he made the album Space (July 2015) just 3 months after The Transition. Still the use of orchestra was prominent.
Next, he wanted to develop his own style more and thus mixed a lot of piano and orchestra in his sound. The result was a concept album: City Between Two Seas (January 2016). From this point, this album and the Space were available for sale and he gained more international fans.
With his next album The Sent Alien (October 2016) he amplified his style; more thought out layers with lots of piano and orchestra and a bit more experimental, the album touches avant-garde briefly for the first time as well as adapting classical composition.
------------- https://pascalvandendool.bandcamp.com/album/a-moment-of-thought" rel="nofollow - New album! "A Moment of Thought"
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 04 2016 at 13:45
Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: October 04 2016 at 14:14
Thanks!
------------- https://pascalvandendool.bandcamp.com/album/a-moment-of-thought" rel="nofollow - New album! "A Moment of Thought"
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Posted By: Dougie of Anubis
Date Posted: November 06 2016 at 03:06
Hemina - Bio
"Sydney four piece progressive metal act Hemina are preparing for the release of their third album, Venus, on November 11 Venus is an 80 minute concept album detailing and examining domestic violence, relationships, and individuality in the 21st century with a narrative arc to accompany and elaborate on their previous conceptual output. Hemina combine hard hitting syncopated grooves and lush synth backwashes with multi-part vocal harmonies and blistering, memorable leads to create soundcapes full of emotion. The bands first two albums Synthetic (2011) and Nebulae (2014) were met with critical acclaim traversing two different sides of the band's sonic spectrum from the complex and dark, to the concise and uplifting. Venus sees that spectrum expand, offering flavours of what fans have come to expect in the past as well as a new palette and range of expression never before heard from the group. From their ambitious "proggy" beginnings that shaped their first release, they developed a more alternative and concise sound for album number two and have now found their sonic feet and what they feel is the definitive Hemina direction and lineup. Venus has been the most collaborative experience so far, with all members contributing to the songwriting process. So although many of the flavours and sounds will be familiar to those who know them, they are most certainly are treading new ground and this is the most adventurous they have been. Venus is Hemina at their heaviest and most energetic without ignoring the tender and delicate side that keeps the music in balance. With a powerful modern production and mix crafted between Skene and McMahon at Ploughman Studios with audiophile mastering from Ermin Hamidovic at Systematic Productions (Periphery, Devin Townsend, Plini) - this is the band at their best. Hemina have played along side such international acts as Uriah Heep, Kamelot and Apocalyptica and opened for Queensryche earlier this month on the Sydney leg of their tour. They have shared the stage with Aussie legends, Caligula’s Horse, Chaos Divine, Voyager, James Norbert Ivanyi, Divine Ascension, Breaking Orbit among many others and simply live for playing live."
------------- http://hemina.bigcartel.com" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: November 06 2016 at 04:37
Hemina updates done, new picture will be done by the Admin.
------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
Emile M. Cioran
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 13 2017 at 14:53
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5777" rel="nofollow - Different Light had a total revamp, musicians missing, an EP needed adding etc. all sorted now
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Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: June 30 2017 at 03:32
Rather unhandy I can't update my own biography So could someone please update http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9705" rel="nofollow - this page 's bio to this:
Pascal van den DOOL is a solo crossover prog artist (born 29th february, 2000 in Papendrecht, The Netherlands).
Start
Playing piano and composing started at an early age and he continued with this a lot in his life. In 2014, he began composing orchestral pieces and piano compilations and publishing them on Youtube. These orchestral pieces were largely inspired by trailer music which has always been an influence.
First albums
After a little while he composed his first orchestral album, called 'Nature'. In less than a year a new album came out: 'The Transition'. It had a more realistic orchestral sound and functioned as a bridge between orchestral music and band-oriented music. These albums were never officially released.
Prog period
Pascal discovered prog, which would be a big love from that point. Inspired mainly by Pink Floyd, he made the album Space (July 2015) just 3 months after The Transition. Still the use of orchestra was prominent.
Next, he wanted to develop his own style more and thus mixed a lot of piano and orchestra in his sound. The result was a concept album: City Between Two Seas (January 2016). From this point, this album and the Space were available for sale and he gained more international fans.
With his next album The Sent Alien (October 2016) he amplified his style; more thought out layers with lots of piano and orchestra and a bit more experimental, the album touches avant-garde briefly for the first time as well as adapting classical composition.
The next album, Fedus (June 2017), focusses more on piano solo and other keyboard layers. In this nearly fully instrumental album the aim is to find a balance of seemingly almost contradictional musical aspects: peaceful - tensional, impressionistic - modernist, emotion - complexity, etc. The album again takes a new direction, namely much more jazz and modernist music, but it remains Pascal van den DOOL's own style.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 01 2017 at 02:01
Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: July 02 2017 at 01:37
Thanks!
------------- https://pascalvandendool.bandcamp.com/album/a-moment-of-thought" rel="nofollow - New album! "A Moment of Thought"
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 08:43
Lately I've been considering launching a global revision of Bios, since I consider a significant part is outdated/badly edited/incomplete - but that would surely require a substantial task force not a single-man effort.
What is your opinion and would you be willing to join forces and participate ?
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 08:52
Happy to get involved from the RIO side
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 12:03
Great Ian, hope we''ll not remain a band of two... let's wait for more answers and then we'll start the discussion on how to coordinate efforts
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 10 2017 at 23:16
Jose if you could clarify what you mean by a revision of bios and what the numbers look like-- are we talking hundreds, thousands? Would these be complete rewrites or just changes, edits, etc.?
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 02:49
There are loads of them which require updating. I would be happy to help in the limited time I have available.
------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 03:52
David,
Of course it depends from one case to another, to be rigorous certain bands would require a total rewrite while other will benefit just from a more light editing and/or updating.
I think we shouldn't let be overwhelmed by the (eventually) huge amount of work required, if we start thinking in terms of numbers it's easy to get discouraged and give up right away
If we could coordinate a joint effort I'm certain it will positively reinforce the individual commitement and make the task a more pleasant one (the main personal goal, as I see it) and productive (the final collective result).
Let me know your POV
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 05:07
Steve,
I knew you would, thanks mate !
Stay tuned (...when we get our posse together, then we'll talk specifics...)
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 06:29
Happy to chip in, we completed this in the HP team recently so there should not more than a handful that need updating (if any). It has proved more difficult with Prog metal which has been hit and miss.
I think we can start from the ones that are in urgent need of update and concern more well-known bands. If you can co-ordinate this and we spread this out to more people I think we can see some more progress.
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 07:58
Thanos,
Wow, great to have you (the posse is growing, 4 already on board)
Your comment is spot-on, exactly my thoughts too.
Do you think we should "advertise"/link this thread in the sub-genres rooms in order to get more visibility and hopefully enlarge our troops ?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 12:53
Quinino wrote:
Steve,
I knew you would, thanks mate !
Stay tuned (...when we get our posse together, then we'll talk specifics...) |
------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 13:39
Quinino wrote:
Thanos,
Wow, great to have you (the posse is growing, 4 already on board)
Your comment is spot-on, exactly my thoughts too.
Do you think we should "advertise"/link this thread in the sub-genres rooms in order to get more visibility and hopefully enlarge our troops ?
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You could give it a try, I hope you get some interest; most "old" members are aware of this but some of the newest (and perhaps keener) might not be. I believe that when it comes to allocating it would be important to get some commitment to do this, even if it is 1-2 bands per person.
You have a good team already building up here.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 13:49
I can help out too.
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 11 2017 at 14:51
Greg,
Great to count with you, my friend, I begin to think we'll gather a super posse soon (at least 10 would be good, but more the better) I figure we should do this in a more or less systematic and coordinated way - as much as I embrace the K.I.S.S. approach, you know, most of all I hate chaos (but that's me...) Do you think it's possible/advisable or do you have other suggestion on how we should join forces ?
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 02:24
Reading this thread only now...I can spare some time on this
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 05:33
Luca,
You're a precious addition to our posse, glad to have you !
As you may have read above, I am waiting to have at least 10 deputies (we're 6 now) before launching a quick discussion on how to get a little coordination between us all. I truly believe that working in a collective fashion will be more motivational/entertaining/rewarding and as a consequence more productive.
Stay tuned
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 13:38
Quinino wrote:
Greg,
Great to count with you, my friend, I begin to think we'll gather a super posse soon (at least 10 would be good, but more the better) I figure we should do this in a more or less systematic and coordinated way - as much as I embrace the K.I.S.S. approach, you know, most of all I hate chaos (but that's me...) Do you think it's possible/advisable or do you have other suggestion on how we should join forces ?
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Hi Jose,
Systematic and coordinated rather than haphazard makes sense. Glad work is not starting immediately because I'm pretty full on with work (lots of papers to work on) and family matters. I will be glad to help as time and sanity permits.
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 14:13
^ Hey, we're leaving no man behind ! Take your time, Greg, everyone has its own pace, of course, and we are supposed to have FUN and relax here. Anyways, keep an eye on the thread ...
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: November 12 2017 at 16:03
ok me too, especially with the folk prog
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