Sonata Arctica?

Hello. i'm new here, thanks to the admins for the Prog music support, i come here every time i need to listen fresh music and of course, i never leave dissapointed. I write in this topic cause i wanna join to the people who ask Sonata Arctica to be included in PA list, maybe one day, but i started to like this group when they started to explore prog world in the album Unia and then The Days of Grays and now this "not-to-pass" album  Stones Grow Her Name, i still found prog music here. Well that was all, thx for reading and sorry for my English ;)

• Each band is assessed individually on their own merits - precedents do not apply.
• Follow additon-by-precedent to its logical conclusion every band that ever existed will eventually be added.
• This is the sad old "If X then Y" hypothesis that we killed-off years ago.
• Frankly any suggestion that relies on such an argument is skating on ultra thin ice.
• We cannot delete bands added in error.
• We don't compound one error by making another.
• Nightwish is a perfect example of why we no longer add bands based on the opinion of one person.
• Each band is evaluated by a team of people who make their own minds up based on what they hear and they will vote accordingly.

 

 

dtguitarfan wrote: rogerthat wrote: Do you have an argument, really, with your hypothetical question? Yes - you have other artists on this site that also do not have a single album that is 100% progressive, and they are on here.  That sets a precedent.  That's my argument. Like I said, I'm not going to be sore either way, so please don't misunderstand this as an attack.

That I am not going to deny and I have lashed out several times at the presence of aforementioned Nightwish on the progarchives.  I don't find the argument that a band with several reviews up for it ought to stay once it has been added to the database very convincing from an 'idealistic' viewpoint though I see the practical hassles in adding and deleting and re-adding a band as and when the views of the sub genre team change.  

But that has no bearing on the example that you just gave.  If you propose that bands should be added if they have a few prog rock songs scattered across their discography rather than concentrated in a few albums, it would open a Pandora's Box.  I could personally make a good case then for Stevie Wonder and ABBA, both of whom I consider more progressive than Nightwish and might want to propose Scorpions again.  Not that I am going to do any of these things, but I don't think you fully appreciate the implications of what you suggest.  There are many, many artists with a few progressive tracks.  Prog rock as a style characterised by musical elements is not the exclusive preserve of artists already identified as prog rock and artists commonly taken to be mainstream rock/pop can and do write the odd proggy track.   It makes sense to emphasise the existence of a few 'fully' progressive albums for every band that is added to the database just so that the rationale of including bands in the umbrella of prog can be meaningfully understood.  A few doubtful additions cannot justify doing away without this rationale and I say that even though I am not, obviously, on any of the sub genre teams.

dtguitarfan wrote: Snow Dog wrote: I didn't laugh either. Oh, come on, I didn't say anything mean.  Sheesh.

Dean wrote: Oh for crying out loud Geoff, there is a time and a place for everything - this section of the forum is for serious suggestions, not for making "funny" hypothetical situations.

Dean, I am 100% serious about this suggestion - the songs I posted are 100% Progressive.

Snow Dog wrote: I didn't laugh either.

Oh, come on, I didn't say anything mean.  Sheesh.

dtguitarfan wrote: Hey, come on Dean, you've got to admit that my hypothetical situation there does make it sound a little funny?  You don't find any amusement in that?  Haha, lighten up dude!

Hey, come on Dean, you've got to admit that my hypothetical situation there does make it sound a little funny?  You don't find any amusement in that?  Haha, lighten up dude!

Oh no, I'm not saying I don't like the system...but I am enjoying poking fun at it...




Edited by dtguitarfan - May 20 2012 at 06:57

So basically, what you're telling me (just so I have this 100% clear) is that if SA had released a CD with just the tracks I posted, they would be in the club but because they chose to spread 'em out they're not?  Just so that is 100% clear....