The 2011 NFL Thread

I didn't want to start it too soon but now that Peyton has chosen its time!

We should have had a 2012 thread this whole time, but wow. Why not go to the Niners? 

Well this is nutty, I was checkin wiki to see the Lions championship: 1957

With Bobby Layne at QB, who I never heard of, so checked out that page.
Played ball at Highland Park HS, and after they traded Layne rumor is they wouldn't win for 50 years. Which would be 2008...2009 Matt Stafford who played at Highland Park HS takes over the team

THE CURSE IS BROKEN. 2012 the Lions will win the SB against the Cleveland Browns. Calling it now. History will repeat.
And seriously, that is pretty crazy they went to the same HS and both lead the Lions!

That would just be insane, but hey if they someone can pull it off. Also now we just need a 6-10 team to make the playoffs. AFC West perhaps?

The trend has been bucked this year by a Lions fan but I'll be on it.

Snow Pat: if you decide to look in here good game man. As always, down to the final play and it was a tight game, could've gone either way, a few plays on both sides, plays not made on both sides, it was real even. Sorry for being more arrogant than usual before hand I do feel bad for Gronk and Welker.

Gotta also give credit, Bill and Brady were humble in defeat...some teams (maybe let's say the Steelers, Jets and sadly the Ravens) ALWAYS have an excuse. Always something, I was glad to just hear the words "they deserved it" from Bill.

Congrats again to the 2011 NY Giants. Today was the parade (which was OK) and ceremony at the Stadium, (which was awesome) so I guess that officially ends it! Enjoy, and soon get to signing some key players and fixing some leaks!

JJLehto wrote: Yup, good choice because they have a solid defense, good run game and you have to assume they'd get a weapon or two, though the Skins border on mentally insane with their moves so who knows

We could say the same thing about the 49ers and the Jets except that they each have receivers that aren't walking corpses and coaches who try to over manage him.

Oh, forgive my laziness but I just don't feel like filling another thread, but who's better Eli vs. Peyton? Neither, I think when you get to such a level you can't really rank and Peyton has done a lot with not very good teams.
I just wanna say I think Eli has removed his "regular season question mark" after 08, 09 (ok a down year in 2010) but especially after 2011! He WAS the team in the regular season! And with a pretty poor team around him.

I have no doubt we have 4 more losses without Eli, if not more. Thus no playoff run.

Obviously I pick him over Peyton though because he's my QB! And despite poor teams for his bro, Eli does have an innate ability to just win when it matters. Even back in 05 he awed me with his hurry up offense!
Under pressure, 3rd down, 4th quarter, playoffs he just ups his game. He aint pretty but also has a squirrely way of evading sacks. Probably me being a fan but ya know, I'll take him over Peyton! Why the hell not?


Edited by JJLehto - February 06 2012 at 16:52

JJLehto wrote: No of course you don't question it MoM he didn't coach the Steelers I was pretty surprised Parcells wasn't inducted. If he's not a lock I have no idea what is! I'll admit IDK about Couglin yet but he just took sooo much sh*t despite what he's done I'm glad to see the talk.

 

No of course you don't question it MoM he didn't coach the Steelers
I was pretty surprised Parcells wasn't inducted. If he's not a lock I have no idea what is! I'll admit IDK about Couglin yet but he just took sooo much sh*t despite what he's done I'm glad to see the talk. 

Speaking of which, some great irony that one of Eli's biggest criticisms was his lack of emotion. No bravado, no swagger, he doesn't show any excitement ever. NOW everyone is gushing how he's so cool and calm and unflappable. The ones who wanted Coughlin fired every year are now giving him a HoF jacket and proclaiming his worth. The media make me giggle!

rdtprog wrote: I have got to give my respect to the Giants. They always find a way to win the big games, make the big plays. The Patriots missed some important plays by dropping the ball and Brady was off target on some occasions. It will be interesting to see how the Giants perform next year, and if they can carry that spirit over for a long time...

Well, they can carry the spirit, but while it feels too soon to say it yet...the Giants DO need to fix some things.
What Eli did was magical this year, but I'd prefer him to not have to do it again


Edited by JJLehto - February 06 2012 at 16:16

manofmystery wrote: Have a feeling that Peyton's going to struggle wherever he ends up.  He's coming off a major neck injury and isn't likely to have the same o-line he had most of his career.  There's also a chance he might have to play outside (parish the thought of playing football outdoors).  Of course, all that being said: He'll still be a big improvement for about half the teams in the league.

If he's healthy I don't see all of that being much of an issue aside from general decline due to age. I'm not so sure he'll be 100% next season though.