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Vibrationbaby
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Topic: Can we make a living from prog? Posted: March 09 2011 at 09:39 |
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i think that if I had to make music to earn a living I would end up hating it. C'mon playing in a church 3 times a week. I'd have to be drunk to do that. As the blog states working musicians don't always get to play what they want. When I asked local blues guitar legend Jimmy James about why he did a TV gig with Céline Dion and he evaded the question.
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Dean
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 08:41 | |
Nice blog though. There is the distinction between making a living as a musician and making a living from your music. Several musicians I know who make their living as a musician do so by teaching or working in music shops - their music, (their "art"), is still a hobby, regardless of what their day-job is. In that respect a Prog Artist who's primary income is not their Prog Music is not making a living from Prog - whether their day job is in a wedding band or selling life insurrance.
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What?
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 09 2011 at 08:18 | |
Good article: http://oneworkingmusician.com/what-it-really-means-to-be-a-working-musician
Unfortunately it only applies to well-developed Western countries, but still. |
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cstack3
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Posted: March 03 2011 at 14:50 | |
Indeed they are wonderful! Here's the first bit of "Revealing Science of God" to give you a taste, seek them out on YouTube: |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 15:44 | |
You gotta check out Parallells doing Perpetual Change complete with kick ass drum solo and chick vocals. One of the best Yes covers I've seen. Seriously.
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clarkpegasus4001
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:53 | |
I have been told that the Yes tribute band called Fragile are very good, I must try to get to see them.
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Tony C.
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cstack3
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:08 | |
Yeah, he did! The concert reviewer for the Chicago Tribune mentioned that also. GREAT show! Does PA have a forum topic going for prog tribute bands? I couldn't find one. There are quite a few, especially in the UK.
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FunkyM
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Posted: February 25 2011 at 17:33 | |
I saw them last summer at Bluesfest in Ottawa and they were outstanding. They had a pretty decent crowd too. Plus, the lead singer even looked a little bit like Phil Collins from the 70's with his beard. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 25 2011 at 15:45 | |
That's what I am afraid of.
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verslibre
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Posted: February 25 2011 at 13:19 | |
ATTW3 is great!!! I'd wager audiences would actually like that.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 22 2011 at 13:51 | |
No No No I meant that the day they do ATTW3 was the day I start boycotting them. Let's just hope they don't get to that point or beyond.
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Gooner
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 14 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 312 |
Posted: February 22 2011 at 12:33 | |
no.
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cstack3
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Posted: February 22 2011 at 12:21 | |
I saw them do "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" in Chicago, and the theater went nuts! They did a marvelous job! Genesis provided them with original light-show slides & some level of coaching from what I've read. Nice. I didn't know they did ATTWT, which I saw the band Genesis perform live (very good show). I'd love to see their "Selling England" or "Foxtrot" shows! How about Yes tributes in Canada? Benoit David (presently of Yes) came from one, but I hadn't heard of it. We have some good hard-rock tribs in Chicago (UFO, Zep etc.) but not many prog tribs.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 22 2011 at 09:19 | |
I'm not a big fan of Genesis but I thought The Musical Box were great because they were recreating what Genesis used to be. The performances of older songs during the actual '07 Genesis concert at the Olympic Stadium were dissapointing and it seemed that all they wanted to do was the newer crap. When Musical Box start doing And Then There Were Three that's when I stop going. It would be a cover band selling out ! I'll actually go and see Trick Of The Tail again. They have a smaller more intimate theatre in The Bell Centre which is where Musical Box always play.
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cstack3
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Posted: February 21 2011 at 19:44 | |
Good Heavens, get thee to a show by the Musical Box!! They are INCREDIBLE!! ANNOUNCING FINAL TRICK OF THE TAIL
PERFORMANCES
TORONTO MASSEY HALL MAY 29TH MONTREAL BELL CENTER JUNE 4TH OTTAWA BLUESFEST JULY 17TH |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 21 2011 at 15:29 | |
You couldn't get away with playing Revealing Science Of God in a bar in Montréal. It would be empty. Seriously. There's only crappy Indie bands metal bands as far as bars go Only saw Yes once on the 90125 tour. Almost saw them in Calgary Alberta but the promoter cancelled the show because of sales. I actually called the guy to find out why. He told me that he had just lost his shirt on an ELP concert where he had to comp a few hundered tickets to make it look like there were people in the audience and wasn't about to lose it again !. I think it was the Black Moon tour.
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cstack3
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Posted: February 18 2011 at 20:32 | |
Want to start a band? |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 18 2011 at 20:27 | |
Even if I could make a living off of what I play I wouldn't want to. Too much work and much more fun as a hobby.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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cstack3
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Posted: February 18 2011 at 19:20 | |
Let me introduce you to my friends "Fragile," from the U.K.!
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AllP0werToSlaves
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Posted: February 18 2011 at 16:51 | |
If you're only playing on one band then yes, supplemental income is necessary. I thought that "full time musician" was understood to be just that; doing whatever it takes to make music your source of income regardless of a job situation. I'd rather play ten gigs a week amongst three different bands and have little free time off the stage than work a 40+ work week and have a set schedule. I'm already scraping by as it is right now and I'm actually happier than I was when I was working full time and trying to make music my life. I think that those numbers are an attempt to push a square peg through a circlular hole; most musicians who are serious don't give a damn about how much they make, doing what they love and living within their means is enough. I'd rather be broke and happy than rich and miserable!I am somewhat of an extremist though lol Most successful musicians in my area have one or two original bands they play in, then a work-horse cover band for raking in extra cash to help out. I'm not opposed to that, either. If you're trying to take over the world like before the internet was musically prominent, then yes you are in for quite the struggle. I think it's actually easier than ever to generate supplemental income via playing live these days. Edited by AllP0werToSlaves - February 18 2011 at 16:57 |
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