Black Sabbath "eras"

S Bloody S and Sabotage were the best

Varon wrote: Gandalff wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: None of the above. Why? You didn't list Volume 4! Now that's a perfect mix of the early darkness and the mid-period progginess. Worse mistake is omitting of Black Sabbath´s debut. "Mistake"? It's a FORUM  or it's an investigation?? I've included just my favourite albums - or it's a mistake to love them? Their debut belongs to Paranoid's\Master era and Vol4 can't be paired IMO with any BS album - so I haven't included it +I'm sure there were a lot of polls where all Sabbath's classic albums were represented - and I don't see any point to make the same poll again

Varon wrote: akaBona wrote: The Quiet One wrote: If you had put their debut with Paranoid, it would have been tougher.   For me it's option 2, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is Heavy Prog (or Prog Metal) of the best kind or simply awesome hard rock if you want to call it that way. Sabotage is incosistent, but still some really great new stuff that Sabbath hadn't done previous to it. Can you tell me what's progressive in those 2 albums you mentioned above? Progressive compared to most albums published about same time? Progressive compared to other Sabbath's albums ? The third pair of albums that I've mentioned is IMO more progressive than any other Sabbath's album. Music is more complex and more various - I would compare it with RUSHs'  early works. And these albums are still underrated because of a stereotype that BS is just a heavymetal band. I'm  sure if you listen to these albums more thoroughly you'll understand what I'm talking about.  But it's just my vision of BS creative searches. I thought I would find at least 1 person holding the same views but ....

Actually I just listened Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. You're right and I must admit that hearing it was a nice surprise to me. It opened the world of Black Sabbath little bit more to me and I will continue my journey which stopped to Master Of Reality decades ago ;)

But though they are more complex and various in BS category, they still are not progressive rock to me. Just excellent heavy rock albums.

Thanks!

akaBona wrote: The Quiet One wrote: If you had put their debut with Paranoid, it would have been tougher.   For me it's option 2, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is Heavy Prog (or Prog Metal) of the best kind or simply awesome hard rock if you want to call it that way. Sabotage is incosistent, but still some really great new stuff that Sabbath hadn't done previous to it. Can you tell me what's progressive in those 2 albums you mentioned above? Progressive compared to most albums published about same time? Progressive compared to other Sabbath's albums ?

Varon wrote: BS is one of my favourite bands and I wonder what albums are the most popular here.  IMO these pairs shows the development of this band from DOOM  to progrock.  I understand that I'll be alone with my opinion because I've never heard smb calls BS a progband.... please argue your choice.

Varon wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: None of the above. Why? You didn't list Volume 4! Now that's a perfect mix of the early darkness and the mid-period progginess. Of course I know and I like this album. But it's not as emblematic as others + with what album VOL 4 should be paired in your opinion???

I don't see why it should be paired at all since its position as a transitional record makes it unique.

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage is a perfect choice for every Prog lover.

If you had put their debut with Paranoid, it would have been tougher.

you culd have paired the debut with  paranoid and master of reality with vol 4, but anyway Paranoid and Master of reality makes a perfect pair 2 of the very best metal albums ever. I love all the first 6 albums however.