Black Sabbath "eras"
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Topic: Black Sabbath "eras"
Posted By: Varon
Subject: Black Sabbath "eras"
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 16:59
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BS is one of my favourite bands and I wonder what albums are the most popular here. IMO these pairs shows the development of this band from DOOM to progrock. I understand that I'll be alone with my opinion because I've never heard smb calls BS a progband.... please argue your choice. ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:11
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I tend to prefer the earlier era of Sabbath. I appreciate where they went, but there's somthing terrifying and primal going on in their first round of releases. ------------- Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact. |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:14
I voted the 2nd pair.I'm a fan of doom metal(especially doom/death,funeral doom,doom/black)and I had created a discussion(general music discussions).But there were no interest.If you want,let's go to discuss about this kind of metal music. Do you like Drudkh? |
Varon wrote:Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:14
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None of the above. Why? You didn't list Volume 4! Now that's a perfect mix of the early darkness and the mid-period progginess. |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:20
Of course I know and I like this album. But it's not as emblematic as others + with what album VOL 4 should be paired in your opinion??? ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:26
It's a band from my country! But I didn't know about them  - wikipedia told me... ..Sorry, but the only metal (DOOM etc) that I can listen to are BS (+ DIO sometimes and maybe Iron Maiden). Black Sabbath are the only heavyband that I really like .
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:33
| first pair for me. especially Master Of Reality is so dear to me ... |
Posted By: chemebien
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:37
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the first pair by far
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:40
| Earliest albums (with Ozzy), with mid-Ozzy period right after. I prefer that still very heavy dark bluesy sound |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:40
Ok.Drudkh is great!There are inside here. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 18:11
this, although I actually voted the first pair because "close enough" |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 19:26
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you culd have paired the debut with paranoid and master of reality with vol 4, but anyway Paranoid and Master of reality makes a perfect pair 2 of the very best metal albums ever. I love all the first 6 albums however. ------------- 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 20:42
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath & Sabotage, but I would have included Vol. 4 in there. Love the transition the band was in at the time. it's the perfect mash up of strait up metal and old school doom. The numbers are all catchy, but with depth. Not too unapproachable, but still with a malevolent sound to them. Gotta love the first 3 albums, but 4 through 6 is where it's at for me. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 21:49
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If you had put their debut with Paranoid, it would have been tougher.
For me it's option 2, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is Heavy Prog (or Prog Metal) of the best kind or simply awesome hard rock if you want to call it that way. Sabotage is incosistent, but still some really great new stuff that Sabbath hadn't done previous to it.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:23
 ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:26
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage is a perfect choice for every Prog lover. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:30
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:33
I don't see why it should be paired at all since its position as a transitional record makes it unique. |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 04:45
"Mistake"? It's a FORUM or it's an investigation?? I've included just my favourite albums - or it's a mistake to love them? Their debut belongs to Paranoid's\Master era and Vol4 can't be paired IMO with any BS album - so I haven't included it +I'm sure there were a lot of polls where all Sabbath's classic albums were represented - and I don't see any point to make the same poll again ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 04:53
I went for the first choice only because of Paranoid
but you screwed up    You should've linked or paired the debut & paranoid and MoS with vol 4 ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:05
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Sabbath bloody Sabbath and Sabotage.
This was Sabbath at their most interesting and innovative. Sabotage in particular has long been my favorite Sabbath album anyway. I love the sense of insanity that hangs over the album. I think Ozzy sings better on this album than most of the others from any era. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:41
What for????? +++++++++Don't you think that Vol4 and MoR are completely different? They can't be paired IMO. +++++++++You had better argue for what reason you prefer Paranoid to the ohter albums instead of criticizing my point of view ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:09
Can you tell me what's progressive in those 2 albums you mentioned above? Progressive compared to most albums published about same time? Progressive compared to other Sabbath's albums ? |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:25
The third pair of albums that I've mentioned is IMO more progressive than any other Sabbath's album. Music is more complex and more various - I would compare it with RUSHs' early works. And these albums are still underrated because of a stereotype that BS is just a heavymetal band. I'm sure if you listen to these albums more thoroughly you'll understand what I'm talking about. But it's just my vision of BS creative searches. I thought I would find at least 1 person holding the same views but .... ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:58
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I love entire Sabbath output with Ozzy, so I won't vote. I don't think they're prog, not even prog-related, however, they did some awesome stuff with epic feel, like 'Wheels Of Confusion'. They also had that nuclear war/post-apocalyptic/science fictione vibe that resembles prog rock vibe. Great band. ------------- |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 07:17
Actually I just listened Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. You're right and I must admit that hearing it was a nice surprise to me. It opened the world of Black Sabbath little bit more to me and I will continue my journey which stopped to Master Of Reality decades ago ;) But though they are more complex and various in BS category, they still are not progressive rock to me. Just excellent heavy rock albums. Thanks! |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 12:05
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Can´t really vote as my 3 BS favourites are Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Heaven and Hell, Headless Cross, three different vocalists, three works of art .. ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 02:09
OK. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 02:13
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My favourite is Tecnical Ecstasy...problem is it is paired with my least favourite Never say Die. Decisions desicions. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: ferush
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 20:09
| S Bloody S and Sabotage were the best |